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Old 01-25-2009, 07:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey folks, after having a somewhat successful harvest with personal built LED array's i decided to purchase some from HTGsupply.com. Their gen 3 lights are decently priced for what you get and they cover all the right spectrum.

This will be an ongoing grow journal of a few strains to learn how to better manage them under LED lights.

Currently i have Bubble gum (clone only), OG Kush (might not keep these), Jack Herer (mother only), and just popped 10 beans of Jillybean for a hopeful male to cross with.

More to come later, as well as pics.
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Old 02-02-2009, 08:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Okay, feb 1st update:
The 2 bubble gum's are what i have chosen to flower out. I killed off the kush's in fear of dealing with hermies, better safe than sorry. Right now the plants are at 27-28" (inches) and i want to wait till 30" before i start 12/12(per grow recommendations). My hopes are to pull a pound off these four lights on the two plants. I am brewing some organic tea right now(a day late, of course) and suspect i will be turning the girls in the next 3 days.

More to follow soon.

A few pics, there's some of the two bubble gums i will be turning, and my BG mom, Jack Herer Mom, and the 10 Jilly Bean seedlings.

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Old 02-02-2009, 08:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Looking good. Haven't had much faith in the LED's yet..just don't save enough energy to make up for the extra cost, but I really want to see what they can do, so count me in. I love HTGsupply!!
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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niceOne Mace,

Always interested to see results from the LED's,
as the prices are dropping all the time on those UFO's..
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
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im looken forward to see how they do, looks great, love the setup
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Old 02-02-2009, 03:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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So is that roughly $1200 bucks for lighting over 2 plants?

I still don't get it, there were lack luster results from the initial test and ya dropped some more coin on additional LED's, just doesn't make since to me..is power savings the draw or the perverbial "low heat"? low heat is a farse, all the real well eingineered units I have seen have huge heat sinks or even a water cooled jacket on them to combat the heat from the LED configuration.

Thank God most modern houses have 200amps of power coming into them, I mean NASA is operating off of batteries and solar arrays to power their gear, so thats understandable but down here on earth we have an electrical grid to spoil us on cheap available power..

I wonder how long you would have to run a LED setup to realize any savings over a straight up digital ballast and bulb combo? once you factor in the intial cost and overall reliability..

I have a few friends playing with these in their various forms and the results have been comical, that's why I get frustarted reading the newest garb touting the results from LED's and they are just not there..I don't get it at all..

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Old 02-02-2009, 04:13 PM   #7 (permalink)
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well i was wondering about the led but if tex says its wack i wont even bother.my time is to precious
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At the end of the day it should really help shed light on the efficiency and effectiveness of these lights. I am interested in led tech but haven't taken the plunge. More grows like these will help a lot of people flock to or stay away from them. I appreciate the fact that mace is being persistant in using these lights for the time being. Maybe with the right strain, nutes etc..
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Welcome aboard everyone!

TK: Definitely see where you're coming from on this. It was 1,400 for all four. The draw in the total power saving, the heat is a nice add-on since im renting the place i currently live at. The more stealth i can keep things the better. I don't know how the heat thing is a farse, though. It's fact that LED's are much more efficient at turning electricity into power and the radiant heat produced is considerably lower than that of the equal energy output of a hps.

I'm not one that thinks power is going to remain cheap for much longer, and here in cali power has a way of biting you in the ass. To factor in cost is easy, but i need a total yield from a unit that is mass produced. It's kinda of why im doing this all over again. After this grow we should have a buy/dont buy for right now.
for a HPS i figure about 600 out the door for a light setup. 1000 out the door if you include fan, ducting, tools, time for install, yadda yadda. So that's 1000 upfront, and operating costs are $150 per/month 1,000 watts in my area. rought math(that's 1800 + 1000= 2800) add on top of that let's just say 2 bulbs a year for argument's sake(300 for both). So 3100, hundred bucks the first year, and an additional 2100 every year after[cost rise with power]). Also, for those of you afraid of FLIR camera's this has an added benefit too, i'd imagine.

The reason i chose this version is they are supposed to be in the correct NM wavelengths that the plants need. Version's in the past are definitely not.

I just really like playing with the latest tech. I'm hoping that i wont have to add in an HPS backbone, but this is the first grow i've seen with LED's to try and tackle the light penetration issue. Here's to hoping

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Thanks for the test.
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