GTD'S Casey Jones

Billygoat · 11-06-2009, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by greenthumbdanny

Hey there reborn>>>>Billy Goat Seeds is working this very chic, also Head Seeds is gonna re release it by the masses coming spring 2010

Man I love this gal. This round mainly consists of casey jones.. I have a few Whitedawg#4's going and a Mcfly for good measure Big thank you Krome buddy for them two>>>> Still can't find my good camera, so this one will have to do for now

GTD

Hey GTD,

Man! I don't know how I missed the update. WOW, just got my girls going and I hope they are half the women yours are. I had some issues at first, but I figured it out after talking with you. I never used the 3 part before and looked like I was under feeding them.

Went over your notes, mixed a new batch of nutz and noticed they where sucking it down. Just over a full day they drank about 2 gallons or so. So, it looks like I'm back on track.

I will have to agree with you. This girl can take some shit. I'm really surprised at how she can handle the stress. Grower's are going to be more then happy when Head releases these seeds this spring. I know I will stock pile some for a rainy day.

Thanks again for the gift. I'll talk to you later. Man! your garden is rockin like always. Awesome job and can't wait to hear the numbers on this one. The record is 3.2 and I think you'll beat it.
Take care,
BG

greenthumbdanny · 11-06-2009, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by Shady

Freaking amazing skillz GTD!!! I just remembered you're doin' hydro here... I had picked up Hammerhead as well as Bud Candy and I'm growing in hydro as well as soil.

Do you also grow in soil and if so do you have a different regiment for feeding between the two because of the beneficial microbes in the soil that are not present in hydro? I'm thinking that the main difference is the use of Bud Candy to feed the micro herd much earlier in soil than hydro the 2nd to last week of flush as you mentioned above. Also, I planned on using the Hammerhead as recommended by R.Face during weeks 3, 5, and 7 in soil, but now you've got me wondering if that should be the same for hydro...

No soil here on my end bro.. My mothers tho are in 70% Sunshine Mix#4 30% Readygrow (aeration formula).

I only hit em with my P/K booster hammer head and moab week 7 and 8>>>>This is what works for me...The directions say to incorporate it after week 2 in flower. I have played around a bit during different stages of flowering with it, I found my Casey's perform best when I hit em hard week 7&8 only with MOAB in conjunction with Hammerhead>>>>Flush with Budcandy 1st week,2nd week straight ph'd water

The Gh 3 part has all the micro that I need it seems. I have a customized/tweaked up GH 3 part sched.. Different ratio's for each week and what not, totally customized to CJ's needs but works with everything else I have grown

Budcandy is a great source of Carbs and sweetener in one

Originally Posted by Trillion

wow shes a beast are the buds dense? arent they at risk of mold they are just huge!

No mold bro, My room is dialed

All the times I have run her never have had mold issue.

Originally Posted by Slips

Wow I need to do a run of her with GH nutes ... I have only run her with PBP and the max I got was 2.5lbs, 32 clones on a 4x4 strait from clone 1/2 gallon pots no coco matte. I think I could have gotten more but I had to cut them at day 65 due to the half gallon pots all falling over dough ...
I can see where c02 GH nutes and a better hood than a daystar can make this girl consistently pull over 3lb.

The other few cuts that I noticed that really put out for sog are the blue dream, sssdh, and the chem 3.

Can't wait till I move in to a permanent house that I own ... I think I'll be dancing lol

pm'd u on the cabana

For sure slips, you hit the nail on the head

Them XXL magnum hoods are really nice..2 of them XXL Magnums are married for 4x8 tables, 1 for a 4x4 table..Shmoe beat this equation into my head..I went with hugo blocks instead of 1 gallons... When I ran my 4x4 table I ran 16 caseys>>>6x6 hugo blocks>>>>2inch coco mat>>>>under 1K spit out 3.2 dried>>>>>no Co2

I like to think its the MOAB, I assure you its not me its the plant making me look good lol.. Ive spent a lot of time with this chic and we seem to have a understanding

Thats still a damn good run of her @2.5, I take CJ 70 days and still stackin

Originally Posted by Rolln J

try 16 clones with about a week of veg...

thats what GTD recommended to me - I was gonna run 24- Im gonna try it his way!

Week of veg only if you have the ceiling height as she stretches literally 3-4 times for 21-23 days.. Less plants= more space= bigger yield

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Originally Posted by Billygoat

Hey GTD,

Man! I don't know how I missed the update. WOW, just got my girls going and I hope they are half the women yours are. I had some issues at first, but I figured it out after talking with you. I never used the 3 part before and looked like I was under feeding them.

Went over your notes, mixed a new batch of nutz and noticed they where sucking it down. Just over a full day they drank about 2 gallons or so. So, it looks like I'm back on track.

I will have to agree with you. This girl can take some shit. I'm really surprised at how she can handle the stress. Grower's are going to be more then happy when Head releases these seeds this spring. I know I will stock pile some for a rainy day.

Thanks again for the gift. I'll talk to you later. Man! your garden is rockin like always. Awesome job and can't wait to hear the numbers on this one. The record is 3.2 and I think you'll beat it.
Take care,
BG

Your gonna be in for a real treat with this one bud.. Let me know if you have any question regarding that customized sched.. She is a real power pig and will take anything you throw at her really..
I will definitely beat 3.2 being I have 1 4x8 of this bitch running now, soon to have 2 going soon as these fuckers root

Really looking forward to trying them feminized beans.. It would be nice to have the exact replica being she dont herm>>>>never seen one nanner on her in all my runs, Im sure if you break the 3 cardinal rules with her you will see em, but I think that goes for any strain really..
ttys
gtd

Shady · 11-06-2009, 06:23 AM

Thx for the response GTD. I'm gonna follow your lead on my hydro tray and use the Bud Candy at the end and will continue with my modified GH 3 part schedule there... I'm gonna look into the MOAB, as I've heard good things about it.

For soil, I plan on starting the bud candy and hammerhead much sooner as per RollinFace... He's def got his technique dialed in...

greenthumbdanny · 11-06-2009, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Shady

Thx for the response GTD. I'm gonna follow your lead on my hydro tray and use the Bud Candy at the end and will continue with my modified GH 3 part schedule there... I'm gonna look into the MOAB, as I've heard good things about it.

For soil, I plan on starting the bud candy and hammerhead much sooner as per RollinFace... He's def got his technique dialed in...

Good luck with your grow shady.. If I were running a soil grow, I would still do it this way

In the past I have run budcandy after week 1 in flower all the way till the last 2 weeks of flower shit is good full of sugars made my buds too goopy resin oozing>>>>no good imo.. To much sugar is not good

adding it last 2 weeks of flower really seems to brings out the taste and a considerable cosmetic difference in my meds especially casey jones.

Curious what your modified GH schedule consist of??

MOAB is a local fertilizer additive. Not widely available. Only in certain shops in my area. Made by the Mad Farmer, a friend of mine.
If ya can't find MOAB try Bushmaster as an alternative. Or there is a bloom booster from Supernatural Brand ferts that is very much like the MOAB.

gtd

Big Buddy · 11-06-2009, 09:23 AM

Man GTD that is some of the sickest yield I've seen, just wonderful work with this plant! You mention that you take her at 70, how long do you think it could go for?

Shady · 11-06-2009, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by greenthumbdanny

Good luck with your grow shady.. If I were running a soil grow, I would still do it this way
In the past I have run budcandy after week 1 in flower all the way till the last 2 weeks of flower shit is good full of sugars made my buds too goopy resin oozing>>>>no good imo.. To much sugar is not good adding it last 2 weeks of flower really seems to brings out the taste and a considerable cosmetic difference in my meds especially casey jones.

Thx for the good karma Green Thumb Danny! I hope you have a chance to check my journal as I've just flipped to 12/12. I'm not growing the Casey Jones yet, but I def want to after reading this amazing journal...

Maybe there's a compromise somewhere, by starting very low with the candy and slowly ramping up the dosage?

Curious what your modified GH schedule consist of??

Promise not to laugh at my schedules and programs, but I've got a BS in Civil Engineering and I'm a bit of a computer geek especially with programs like Excel and Photoshop...

My 1st grow was me researching countless sites and journals on my own, no forum membership until I got near harvest, and w/o the proper gear like the Hanna Combo waterproof meter I now use. I essentially was feeding full strength the whole way through and following GH's recirculating Keep It Simple schedule like a good Construction Manager... Big mistake.

My 2nd grow, I used the schedule as a guide to keep good notes, but I only reduced the strength to 40% of the recommended values and still didn't have a Hanna until final flush when I realized I was at 2200 PPM and my pH was way too high at 6.3 in hydro. During this grow a buddy of mine recommended that I should look into a modified Lucas formula or even better I should consider pH's (Lucas' mentor) website and focus on nutrient profiles... Here's the link:

http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fou...s/profiles.htm

Even this is getting too complicated for its own good at least for now with my small setup I've been just trying to read my plants and adjust the ratios of Grow, Micro, and Bloom using this spreadsheet I created...

All I need to do is enter the gallons of my res and the desired strength and then it calculates an updated dosage. That was the schedule for my 2nd grow, but I think I need to omit Grow by the 3rd week of flower. And now that I've been using R/O water and CalMag, I've almost at the point that I kind of just follow PPM's...

I haven't needed to run an add back rule since I've been lucky enough to have a consistent PPM level throughout each week (the plants are getting just the right amount of food and water) and I keep my pH at 5.7 with each res change on Sat. Then as the week goes by the pH drifts to 5.9 making nutrients available to the plant that may have been locked out earlier in the week... at least that what I hope that means.

MOAB is a local fertilizer additive. Not widely available. Only in certain shops in my area. Made by the Mad Farmer, a friend of mine.
If ya can't find MOAB try Bushmaster as an alternative. Or there is a bloom booster from Supernatural Brand ferts that is very much like the MOAB.

gtd

Is MOAB also known as Mother of All Blooms? I'm pretty sure they have it near me... Hell there's 4 hydro stores within 5 to 20 minutes from me in OC that should have it... BTW that's pretty cool that you are friends with Mad Farmer. I use both of his Get UP and Get DOWN... Lately though I've been worried about the Get UP and the massive amounts I need to raise my PBP mix for my soil plants. Not sure if there's anything to worry about salt buildup and the base...

P.S. Sorry 'bout the long response, but I love hydro talk...

EDIT: forgot to ask... Mind sharing your GH modified program? How much does it change for the Casey Jones vs the DUD? I've got a 2 DUD's in soil and two in hydro that are gonna show sex soon...

rebornfarmer · 11-06-2009, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by greenthumbdanny

Good luck with your grow shady.. If I were running a soil grow, I would still do it this way
In the past I have run budcandy after week 1 in flower all the way till the last 2 weeks of flower shit is good full of sugars made my buds too goopy resin oozing>>>>no good imo.. To much sugar is not good adding it last 2 weeks of flower really seems to brings out the taste and a considerable cosmetic difference in my meds especially casey jones.

Curious what your modified GH schedule consist of??

MOAB is a local fertilizer additive. Not widely available. Only in certain shops in my area. Made by the Mad Farmer, a friend of mine.
If ya can't find MOAB try Bushmaster as an alternative. Or there is a bloom booster from Supernatural Brand ferts that is very much like the MOAB.

gtd

I would like to grow some casey jones myself. Im limited to soil grows in tall 5 gallon buckets. I have an 8 ft ceiling under 1000 watt lights. at what height would you recommend to flower these girls? setup is 5x10x8 32 5 gallon pots.

HighTolerance · 11-06-2009, 11:54 AM

I am a bit late, but amazing job bro, i only wish to get something close to that.

lilzayne · 11-06-2009, 04:17 PM

Man GTD, shit looks like it's kickin ass over there! Great to see you back at it again. Are you just runnin Casey and White Dawg this round?... Plants are huge!! Hope all is well with you. Keep up the great work!

greenthumbdanny · 11-26-2009, 04:23 AM

Thanks for the kind words guys. I really love this one, she is kinda special to meself now. Really would suck to loose her if something should go shitty. I think about that stuff

Hey lilZ whats up bud, long time no see.. Hope things are well with you.. Do you still have your casey? I was there when Joe gave her to ya's, If not let me know bud.
I just pulled this chic. I got next round ready