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Old 07-29-2008, 08:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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ADVANCED NUTRIENTS do I think there worth it?
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I hate to report on anything unless its honestly done. so positive or negative this is what I have found .

here is a bit of my experience with advanced nutrients products.
Did they work, yes did they work as good as what they state in there ads NO. they basically made claims like they could double your yields. This was not my experience's anyway and I did 3 complete crops with there full product line and company resources nutrients calculator and help line keeping it at its highest level. They told me that they were getting almost 3 lbs off of 25 plants , vegged for 3 weeks with a 1000wats hps.....I had a great grow room ,climate controlled with CO2 injection and a light mover. a very nice setup that was proven over a long period of time producing more than most gardens .. There was no pest problem or mildew issues and I was using 5gallon square containers for each plant and I was vegging for double and more of the time advanced suggested.. I was using a strain which was and excellent yielder and great tricombe production , a proven producing winner which I had been growing for a long time. The plants were started from clone so I didn't change anything but the incredible nutrients program A.N. sells and promos .

I was heavily involved with advanced nutrients and had a grouping of about 24 different bottles and powders boosters and magic...I was directly involved with the full resources of there professionals at the company on a weekly basis. I had over a $1000 worth of products . I had the full program and didn't leave anything out. any possible problems I called and made sure it was going to benefit my plants.. I was hooked and loved it. Honestly do I think there stuff has the most research YES. do I think they have done lots of advertising YES. does everything they say make sense YES. and yes yes yes and yes...But here is the biggest question you should ask me or anyone else who honestly wants to answer this question.
HOW MUCH DID IT IMPROVE MY YIELD?
HOW MUCH DID IT COST YOU ?

WELL MY INCREASE WAS ABOUT 20% . and that was from an average of 3 crops, some less some more but 20% is about right. compared to the yields I was getting from a very basic 2 part grow 2 part bloom nutrient which cost less than a tenth of A.N. total package..

The increase in yield was not worth the extra cost in my humble opinion. to spend huge money to increase that much was not worth it.....did it increase resin and bud size yes but again not by an amount that was very noticeable. potency is relative to me. sure when you have stronger meds you need less but when your talking about 7 hits off a joint versus 8 hits does it make that big a difference... anyone that has any questions on advanced nutrients please ask me I will tell you my experiences.. and I have to say there is some incredible products for sure and many I still use but there products are not the be all and end all of cannabis production... marketing really does work even on pot heads is all I have to say... as I have found many other products that work just as good...

here is some of the stuff I still use from A.N.

B52
BUDBLOOD
BIGBUD
OVERDRIVE
V.H.O.
GENIUS OIL
BUG AWAY
VOODOO JUICE
PIRAHNA

NOw these some of these are rather price like the voodoo and pirahna at almosty $100 but its powder form and goes a long way... great for clones to root by the way...

as for the whole line 2+ program. its not necessary and many products can be dropped out or replaced my other brands for sure. I know I have seen results but nothing like what they claim, and as for other brands there are so many , an indistry insider told me he has used everything including the full advanced nutrients line and now believes that canna nutrients are even better and the industry leader for results.. if any one has see on youtube the advanced nutrients showdown nutrients contest compare what ever they call it. well its sort of strange that advanced nutrients didnt use CANNA nutrients in the test????? and come on how can you believe in a test done by the company that wins, talk about bias...

I would love to hear about other peoples favorite nutrients and there experiences.. currently I am using a house brand 2 part nutrients called OPTIMUM from quebec canada .. its very good and about 25% of the cost of advanced nutrients.. for the price of 1litre pair of advanced I get 4litres of optimum and the dilutions is about the same....hope to hear more from everyone here. as I am new to this group...
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Nice buds. I think Canna Coco A+B is fantastic, and a friend who uses the Canna Terra says the same about that, fantastic yields, great taste, just fabulous stuff. I tried An Monkey Juice instead of the Canna Coco and I got smaller yields and I have to say, the AN stuff is less concentrated so a bottle doesn't go as far. I'm sticking to Canna and won't be using AN again. I don't like AN's Carboload either, simple Blackstrap molasses works better! I didn't like their Hammerhead either, seemed to need to use a lto of it to get the required ec so it didn't last long.

I think the problem with AN is that everything is in separate bottles so to get all the goodies your plants need you gotta buy loads of bottles, whereas with Canna you just need the A+B and PK13-14 to get great results. Oh, and you need a PHD to be able to understand AN's product line! lol
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great thread! I am one of the curious ones who always wanted to try it, but now, maybe not. Ill stick to the floranova line...peace...and thanks..and much respect
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Nice, I just bought a bunch of A N nutes for hydro. this is my forst grow

Micro, Grow, Bloom
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Big Bud
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Bloom Booster pro
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I didnt buy the Fulvic or Humic acid products, Do you think they are worthwile to add to my regiment?
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I have to say that i love advanced nutrients line up ! I do not beleive that you need the whole 2 plus but most of there line up is fantastic. It took me about a year to get my garden dialed in with these nutes but once i did the rsults were amazing. I went from 3 pounds to 4.5, it didnt double but an extra 1.5 pounds was real nice. I have grown for over 20 years and havnt found anything i like better. I did a side by side test, same lighting, same co2, same ppm and same strain and the canna was alot leafier than the an. I am in dwc now and i use the sensi bloom, bud blood, big bud and overdrive. For foliars i use collossal bud blast and fulvic w a little seaweeed and nutes mixed in. As far as i am concerned there

budblood
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btw, canna is way more expensive than an
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I don't agree canna is more expensive as you have to buy far less bottles of stuff. I don;t understand why your stuff was leafier with canna. They don't do separate veg and bloom for coco and so you need to add Pk13-14 to turn it into a flower nute, but that's all you need - A+B and Pk. Canna Boost is great, but expensive and although it does add bulk and yield, especially in the lower buds, it's not worth it imho.
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hi, could someone please tell me what they would like best 4 rooting clones, what product is best, i'm using clonex but would opinions please 'thanks'. .
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You guys read my mind - I've just been reading over the AN website trying to work out if their products are worth a go. Totally agree with what BH says...the product line up is confusing and you need a PhD to work out what is what in between the big promises and money back guarantees. I'd really like AN to make a smaller bottle of Voodoo Juice so that I could try it out but there's no way on earth I'm paying 40 quid for a litre of anything without trying it first.

Is it true that AN nutes are just GH relabelled?
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Hi Fastforward

They do make small bottles of voodoo, they are available at my shop. I dont use it though, only if i was a soil grower or coco !!

Hi BH

The canna aqua is so expensive that when i changed my res for flowering (400 gallons) it would have cost me 165$ for nutes not including any flowering enhancers, i was all in at 122$ including bud blood with advanced !!

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