[chief greenleaf]

Whats happenin my fellow farmers! Im hopin some of you Advanced Nutrients experts out there could help a bruva out! Ive been using the BC line w/fox farm solubles in place of Awesome Blossoms for awhile now with great results, and anyone growing on a budget or that just dont wanna drop hundreds on nutes I highly recommend this recipe! But I recently had the oppurtunity to pick up a good amount of AN products at a great price and after hearing so many good things and the fact that its a Cannabis specific product I figured Id give it a shot.
After going thru all the individual bottles and seeing what all else I need to complete the line I realized that Im unforunately missing some of the most expensive shit!
Heres what I picked up:
Connoiseur A&B
Big Bud
SensiZyme
Rhino Skin
Overdrive
Final Phase
For 100 bucks that aint bad huh!
Anyway according to the AN site to complete the line I still need B-52, Bud Candy, Piranha, Tarantula, Voodoo Juice, and Bud Blood. Ive heard great things about Bud Factor X and Colossal Bud Blast so I was thinkin about throwing those in there too.
I was thinking about using Thrive Alive in place of B-52 and Open Sesame in place of Bud Blood, what do all the AN experts out there think about this?
Im kind of on a tight budget too so Im wondering if theres any products I could leave out without sacrificing too much on final quality/yield? Or should I just tighten my belt (or rob a bank) and just pick up the rest of the line?
The guy at a local hydro shop is a self proclaimed AN pro and told me he would absolutely not go w/out Voodoo Juice and Piranha... 2 of the most expensive damn products!!!
Im runnin SOG in Ebb & Flow w/rockwool if that helps.
Any advice, input, exeriences etc would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance yall.

[Devilsharvest]

hey man.. good list of nuts you got there,, I like using the hammer head too its a 9-18.. really good to finish off with this to harden off buds.. I like using vodoo and all with it but it goes to waste as you use a lot.. so to make the most out of it I fill 50 liter tank and buffer the ph to 5.8 then I add vodoo, piranha and tarantula ( you kill the bacterias off if the ph is above 6) .. in flower I also add bud blood in the first week.. then with a tank filled I use a pump and garden hose and hand water every rockwool cube.. nothing gets wasted and your lines won't block up... I do this 3 or 4 times and thats it after week 2 of flower then I power it with hammer head( that will stop the big stretch and bring the nodes closer) and then big bud and a final feed with hammer head again to harden off the buds..

[4maggio]

Originally Posted by chief greenleaf

Whats happenin my fellow farmers! Im hopin some of you Advanced Nutrients experts out there could help a bruva out! Ive been using the BC line w/fox farm solubles in place of Awesome Blossoms for awhile now with great results, and anyone growing on a budget or that just dont wanna drop hundreds on nutes I highly recommend this recipe! But I recently had the oppurtunity to pick up a good amount of AN products at a great price and after hearing so many good things << NOT 'THAT' GOOD and the fact that its a Cannabis specific product I figured Id give it a shot.
After going thru all the individual bottles and seeing what all else I need to complete the line I realized that Im unforunately missing some of the most expensive shit!
For 100 bucks that aint bad huh!<< From here on out it's $100/qt
Anyway according to the AN site to complete the line I still need B-52, Bud Candy, Piranha, Tarantula, Voodoo Juice, and Bud Blood.

I was thinking about using Thrive Alive in place of B-52 and Open Sesame in place of Bud Blood, what do all the AN experts out there think about this?
Im kind of on a tight budget too so Im wondering if theres any products I could leave out without sacrificing too much on final quality/yield? Or should I just tighten my belt (or rob a bank) and just pick up the rest of the line?
The guy at a local hydro shop is a self proclaimed AN pro and told me he would absolutely not go w/out Voodoo Juice and Piranha... 2 of the most expensive damn products!!!
Im runnin SOG in Ebb & Flow w/rockwool if that helps.
Any advice, input, exeriences etc would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance yall.

Voodoo was $100 a qt, last time I looked.
They sell Tarancula & Piranah by the gram.

Stick with what's working for you. 'Budget' is good!
The guy in the store is 'selling' you 'stuff'.. as much as they can. If you change your rez out weekly, as they suggest, it will cost you ALOT of money
GH Flora is ??? ALOT cheaper and works just as well.

Read Ask Lucas: https://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/showthread.php?t=892

[Iouka]

I like your nute list you must be in flowerig stage cause I dont see Sensi Grow A&B I am a junkie for AN expensve or not I am sold regardless of what people say so keep growing and stick with AN you wont be disappointed.

[chief greenleaf]

Thanks for the help DevilsHarvest and Iouka, I apreciate it.
I really didnt start this thread for AN haters ta come on hear and bitch about how pricey it is and tell me that the damn lucas formula will give me results that are just as good. Everybodys got an opinion just like everybodys got an asshole but regardless of the price or ANYTHING anybody can say about Advanced they still remain to be the ONLY company that has the balls ta openly support our movement! That by itself should be more than enough ta get every single person on this site's full support whether financial or just moral. You can say what you want about em but if you call Gen Hydro and ask em about your pot plants theyll hang up on you! Yea AN is over priced but theyre an up and coming company that supports what we do and theyre the only ones PERIOD.
Voodoo is like $75 a liter, Connie is like $40 not $100. And please dont give me that "your grow shop guy is tryin ta sucker you into buying AN" bs, that "guy" at the grow shop is a friend of mine and took the time ta help me work out a feeding schedule chock full of substitutes that would help save me some cash even tho I didnt buy a single bottle of AN from his store!
Growing is all about trying new things, nutes, techniques etc, and trying to improve the efficiency and quality of our gardens. If folks wanna stick with the same ol Lucas formula or whatever formula and get the same old decent results time after time after time thats fine with me. But Ive seen with my own eyes Sensi w/jus a couple adds up against the lucas formula and the results w/the lucas formula just couldnt compare to the yield or quality of AN. And that wasnt even close to the whole AN line. Theres a hundred side by sides out there done by folks like us that prove this. Yea the lucas formula is super simple and it works if you just wanna grow the same ol decent herb but if you really wanna push the envelope and maximize the yield/quality that can be accomplished w/nutrients it just doesnt cut it IMO. I want you ta smell my herb from across the damn street, but thats just me....Yea I could stick with what works but then how would I ever know if something works better? Flourescents worked back in the 60s-70s but somebody finally tried something new that was way more expensive but it revolutionized growing with MH/HPS. What if they had just stuck with what worked???? Human beings are supposed to adapt and change, thats how you get better at doing what you do!
Whatever Im ramblin again I jus didnt start this thread for AN haters ta tell me that anything but the damn lucas formula is a waste of money.... But I just knew somebody was gonna do it!
I mean honestly think about it.... your obviously not gonna double your yields like AN advertises but if I even get a 10 or 20% increase that easily pays for itself! Plus if my plants look that much happier and give me a better quality or more potent smoke then anybody in their right mind would continue using it cuz its paying for itself plus some, its just common sense.
But foreal this will be my first time using AN and would really appreciate any input that could help me out.

[Malachi]

Chief, I am not bias to any fert. company, I just wanna use what works the best regardless. Some products to look into a little further that will def. help you out. H&G Root's Excel., Hygrozyme, Botanicare Cal/Mag Plus

[4maggio]

High.

You were bragging about how little the AN cost you.
You recieved an opinion, from me, about the cost of AN 'after' you're initial $100 dollar investment, that doesn't include all the nutes AN prescribes.

I do not 'hate' AN nutes... they may be better than some but are not better than all.

If you do not believe they are 'selling you', tht is your business.
If you want to go with AN.. good for you. 10-20%..
Nutes do not increase yield.

See you around.. sorry for the attitude, yours.

[Jalisco Kid]

AN sucks but this might help you, bio-organic makes a product called landscaper's blend . It has both endo and ectos in it like piranha hell they might make it for AN. Ask your friend or fat Mike why would they use ectos when the only plants that use it are mainly evergreen trees. I asked Fat Mike this and all that came out of his mouth was shitty crap. But at least you can get it here a lot cheaper. 85 bucks for 3 lbs. You can also brew up your voodoo juice to make it last longer. JK
What is the dif between AN's 3 part and GH 3 part?
Calcium bicarbonate

[supasticky]

I wouldn't switch anything for the bud candy. It kicks ass.

-Supa

[Motherhugger]

Originally Posted by chief greenleaf

Whats happenin my fellow farmers! Im hopin some of you Advanced Nutrients experts out there could help a bruva out! Ive been using the BC line w/fox farm solubles in place of Awesome Blossoms for awhile now with great results, and anyone growing on a budget or that just dont wanna drop hundreds on nutes I highly recommend this recipe! But I recently had the oppurtunity to pick up a good amount of AN products at a great price and after hearing so many good things and the fact that its a Cannabis specific product I figured Id give it a shot.
After going thru all the individual bottles and seeing what all else I need to complete the line I realized that Im unforunately missing some of the most expensive shit!
Heres what I picked up:
Connoiseur A&B
Big Bud
SensiZyme
Rhino Skin
Overdrive
Final Phase
For 100 bucks that aint bad huh!
Anyway according to the AN site to complete the line I still need B-52, Bud Candy, Piranha, Tarantula, Voodoo Juice, and Bud Blood. Ive heard great things about Bud Factor X and Colossal Bud Blast so I was thinkin about throwing those in there too.
I was thinking about using Thrive Alive in place of B-52 and Open Sesame in place of Bud Blood, what do all the AN experts out there think about this?
Im kind of on a tight budget too so Im wondering if theres any products I could leave out without sacrificing too much on final quality/yield? Or should I just tighten my belt (or rob a bank) and just pick up the rest of the line?
The guy at a local hydro shop is a self proclaimed AN pro and told me he would absolutely not go w/out Voodoo Juice and Piranha... 2 of the most expensive damn products!!!
Im runnin SOG in Ebb & Flow w/rockwool if that helps.
Any advice, input, exeriences etc would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance yall.

I'm not really sure you need to have ALL of those products to get started. I'm a firm believer in 'try a few, see what works, then add more if you're happy.'

Yes, the Advanced Nutrients site can be a little confusing because OF COURSE they want you to buy everything. That happens on every single site you shop on. But what you may not realize is that you really only need a base nutrient, some basic nutes - voodoo, b-52, and bud candy are faves of fellow growers - and that's about it.

Really, start small because if something goes wrong, then you can easily find out what did the damage. When you throw too much into the mix, that's where things get confusing and that's when things can begin to go wrong.

So, start with just a few things man. You'll be happier with the results and less stressed in the process.