Clawing Bud Leaves Only. 21 Days Bloom. Please Help!

[chemistry]

How big is your flower room?

 

[SmithsJunk]

It'll definitely affect the plants productivity, but I don't think it will be detrimental enough to consider scrapping the whole thing. A couple good high volume flushes followed by introduction of very light nitrogen/calcium and much heavier doses of sulfur, magnesium, phosphorus and potassium. Passing some beneficial bacteria and mycorrhizae will help break down residual nutrient buildup in those pots during those flushes/feedings

I'm really glad there are no mites. They were horrible.

I totally agree on the beneficial bacteria. Primordial's Sea Green turned my girls around in 24hrs. Faster results than any nute I've ever used. They haven't had a problem since and are even more cold resistant. Changed everything for me.

 

[houseofgas]

It'll definitely affect the plants productivity, but I don't think it will be detrimental enough to consider scrapping the whole thing. A couple good high volume flushes followed by introduction of very light nitrogen/calcium and much heavier doses of sulfur, magnesium, phosphorus and potassium. Passing some beneficial bacteria and mycorrhizae will help break down residual nutrient buildup in those pots during those flushes/feedings

Thoroughly flushed yesterday and let them dry, it hasn’t solved the affected leaves really at all. I’m not sure they would recover from that much clawing? Flushed until 50ppm left in medium! I fed today very light 250ppm literally what you said above. It’s day 26 and buds are just stunted! I’ll post up in a minute when I have hoovered the run off up. Thanks.

 

[houseofgas]

I'm really glad there are no mites. They were horrible.

I totally agree on the beneficial bacteria. Primordial's Sea Green turned my girls around in 24hrs. Faster results than any nute I've ever used. They haven't had a problem since and are even more cold resistant. Changed everything for me.

Going to brew a 24hr tea in a min I’ll feed them that tomorrow. Xtreme tea is what I have been using this grow.

 

[houseofgas]

How big is your flower room?

I’m in a 5x5 x 7 tent.

 

[SmithsJunk]

Going to brew a 24hr tea in a min I’ll feed them that tomorrow. Xtreme tea is what I have been using this grow.

Primordial has their little 3 part kit of 2oz bottles for like $36 I think. It would last a long time in a small grow. I've read the testimonials on this stuff from reliable sources doing scientific tests. The increases in commercial crop yields are ridiculous. This is from their literature but I believe it, one farm had to back off a bit because their veggies got so much bigger that they were outside of the marketable size.

The only reason I'm not using all of them yet is I haven't had $40 to spare. I got the 32oz $130 bottle from the POTM contest and it would last me forever in a tent grow. Only used 6ml this month on 3 plants.

Sorry about the sales pitch but these guys have really won me over. The difference has been like night & day.

 

[houseofgas]

Primordial has their little 3 part kit of 2oz bottles for like $36 I think. It would last a long time in a small grow. I've read the testimonials on this stuff from reliable sources doing scientific tests. The increases in commercial crop yields are ridiculous. This is from their literature but I believe it, one farm had to back off a bit because their veggies got so much bigger that they were outside of the marketable size.

The only reason I'm not using all of them yet is I haven't had $40 to spare. I got the 32oz $130 bottle from the POTM contest and it would last me forever in a tent grow. Only used 6ml this month on 3 plants.

Sorry about the sales pitch but these guys have really won me over. The difference has been like night & day.

I’m going to have a look into it right now. Hopefully they have distributors in uk. Thanks dude.

 

[houseofgas]

Primordial has their little 3 part kit of 2oz bottles for like $36 I think. It would last a long time in a small grow. I've read the testimonials on this stuff from reliable sources doing scientific tests. The increases in commercial crop yields are ridiculous. This is from their literature but I believe it, one farm had to back off a bit because their veggies got so much bigger that they were outside of the marketable size.

The only reason I'm not using all of them yet is I haven't had $40 to spare. I got the 32oz $130 bottle from the POTM contest and it would last me forever in a tent grow. Only used 6ml this month on 3 plants.

Sorry about the sales pitch but these guys have really won me over. The difference has been like night & day.

They don’t have in uk. Haha. Same with everything else I want from US!!

 

[SmithsJunk]

I’m going to have a look into it right now. Hopefully they have distributors in uk. Thanks dude.

No problem. A lot of knowledgable growers on this forum use this stuff with great success.

 

[SmithsJunk]

They don’t have in uk. Haha. Same with everything else I want from US!!

Can you order from Amazon? I didn't see the 3 pack on there but they do have individual bottles.

 

[houseofgas]

This is day 26... sorry about the contrast but you can still see.. my pheno #2 doesn’t seem to be affected with the “clawing”

 

[houseofgas]

Can you order from Amazon? I didn't see the 3 pack on there but they do have individual bottles.

Everything on amazon from US says out of stock! I have family in Cali, after some research, maybe they can ship to me. Just a nightmare if I need more in a hurry.

 

[SmithsJunk]

Everything on amazon from US says out of stock! I have family in Cali, after some research, maybe they can ship to me. Just a nightmare if I need more in a hurry.

Sheesh, so sorry about that hassle. I've gotten things here in Cali from China in 2 days. If that can be done I don't understand why you guys have to suffer.

 

[houseofgas]

Sheesh, so sorry about that hassle. I've gotten things here in Cali from China in 2 days. If that can be done I don't understand why you guys have to suffer.

“They don’t want us to have those products, they don’t want us to winnn!” Haha. Mate, shipping from US is minimum 5-10 days. What a joke.

 

[chemistry]

I’m in a 5x5 x 7 tent.

5x5 might be a bit under lit with the 400w light, would think you would need 600w at least.

 

[houseofgas]

5x5 might be a bit under lit with the 400w light, would think you would need 600w at least.

It’s 1000w DE now on 600 mode

 

[houseofgas]

It'll definitely affect the plants productivity, but I don't think it will be detrimental enough to consider scrapping the whole thing. A couple good high volume flushes followed by introduction of very light nitrogen/calcium and much heavier doses of sulfur, magnesium, phosphorus and potassium. Passing some beneficial bacteria and mycorrhizae will help break down residual nutrient buildup in those pots during those flushes/feedings

Is it possible to lower my nitrogen by not adding as much of my A in my bloom base?

 

[chemistry]

Is it possible to lower my nitrogen by not adding as much of my A in my bloom base?

Don't know the answer to this one, do you know anyone that uses the same nuits as you? Normally bottled nuits are good and well blended, so you should be fine with out cutting your feeding. See if things improve over the next couple of days now you've kicked up to 600w. Just keep an eye out for light burn as the distance between your plant and light might need changing.

 

[houseofgas]

Don't know the answer to this one, do you know anyone that uses the same nuits as you? Normally bottled nuits are good and well blended, so you should be fine with out cutting your feeding. See if things improve over the next couple of days now you've kicked up to 600w. Just keep an eye out for light burn as the distance between your plant and light might need changing.

I flushed on Tuesday to 50ppm left in medium, fed very low yesterday 250ppm and by this morning more fan leaves were affected and clawing. I literally can’t feed any N or they go super dark and claw. The N in my a+b is nitrate, immediately available. I’m just going to cut the N out completely until I see some N def and feed just my P K booster, sulfur, mag, and my sweetener. I need to drain some N from the plants

 

[DetGrnThumb]

Is it possible to lower my nitrogen by not adding as much of my A in my bloom base?

You need to check all of your bottles. There are a lot of additives that have a lot of nitrogen in them in addition to your base