1 year with light mover what a waste of $$$

Discussion in 'General Indoor Growing' started by booms, Oct 7, 2009.

  1. been

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    It's not a scam. They grow herb of the highest quality.
     
  2. booms

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    so do we all agree for blooming rooms light movers are not worth buying? was wondering what would happen to plants in veg room with light mover. you all know how plants move towards the light in no time in veg cycle so what would the plants do with the light moving back and forth all day. wouldnt be natural to them at all and i believe would "confuse" them since its so unnatural. be like standing in corn field with direct sunlight for minute then cloudy for minute over and over.......
     
  3. zorglub

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    I dont understand shouldnt t5 be more efficient than t8?

    What if the lightmover was moving with the speed of light.:cool0041:

    Zorg
     
  4. Punk

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    I use a light mover in my flower room. I have one 1000w for a 4x6 area. My yield is pretty good, average 2 1/2 lbs.

    I dont think they are hype, I think it is the people who try to go with one light on a mover trying to do the job of two lights who arent happy with them.

    They work, but wont make miracles imo.
     
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  5. purpleberry

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    My freind would run 1000w on a mover over a 4x8 and then 2000w over a 4x8. The plants spend the first 4 weeks on the mover and then under the 2000w. Saves power with the same yeild i would guess.
    Why would you need a air cooled T-5 lol they dont get hot and work great.
     
  6. RoadRunneR

    RoadRunneR New Farmer

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    I am in love with my circular light mover and I fully disagree.
    ^^^I believe that marijuana loves being grown under a canopy. Look at how it grows naturally around the equator, under tree canopy's. I believe that your hypothesis is forgetting about marijuana's natural environment. These tree canopy's do not confuse the plant.

    Clouds are also a natural part of the marijuana environment. I feel that your example of clouds does not support your hypothesis at all, but weakens it.

    Shade will definitely lead to lower yields, but I do not feel it is because the plant is confused.

    ^^That is probably the case most of the time.

    My recommendation is to only buy light movers if you have no possible way to add more lights. My problem is my electricity bill and I cannot raise it any more without raising more suspicion. Therefor the only way I could do more was to add the solar revolution, which spreads my light spectrum out without shading the plants. I do not recommend a light mover to spread your footprint out, this is where I feel most people go wrong.

    :character0095:btw my White that got 2nd place Indica at the 420 Cup was grown under my solar revolution.
     
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  7. Giddeon

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    what are your guys opinions about the light rail 5 with 9 lights over a 24ftx8ft footprint? its a commercial light mover and if stacked and balanced properly with 9 lights on it doesnt seem like much can go wrong??
     
  8. polar-bill

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    love the concept of the spinning light ~
     
  9. altitudefarmer

    altitudefarmer Well-Known Farmer

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    Light movers are not miracle workers, but they do have their place. Most people try to use half the light they need because they think a light mover will allow it. Incorrect. They are good if there is plenty of light, and it's not moving too far.
    T5 fluorescents are better than HID lighting in some scenarios. You need lots of them packed together, but they still produce less heat than a 400w HPS, and 3x the lumens (depending on quantity, of course).
    Cloning machines aren't necessary, but super easy to use and require no humidity dome or chemical root stimulators. They are also less prone to fungal attacks than stagnant moisture in a humidity dome.
    LED lights imo aren't quite dialed in yet, but they are good enough now to produce quality herb. The initial cost is the kicker.
    I'm not posting this to be a dick- Joe, it sounds like some salesperson sold you a load of crap along with your new equipment! Sorry, man, but if you have any of this stuff you aren't using, I could find a home for it... :) Peace!
     
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  10. splakow

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    im gonna go wit 2 x 600 hps and a 400 mh in between on a solar revolution. should i be in good condition?
     
  11. yezmar420

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    Strange...when I added a light mover my yield went up 50%, mine is a 4 ft track in a 6 ft area with a 1000W kept about a foot away from the plants, never had any light burn or anything..I think they worth the investment if you ask me.
     
  12. GrowBigAh

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    My friend owns a LightRail and he gets way better yeilds, LightRail is solid and made in colorado- you cant trust that made in china crap.
     
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  13. PlanterPainz

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    ya that's what i heard too. how it works is when the light comes in at angles more leaves get more light everywhere = better yields. plus no hot spots so your light can run closer and that provides you with better use of your wattage.
     
  14. FruitOfTheLabor

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    this is all due to genetics.. some genetics love low light.. and grow nice thick buds either way.. some don't.. I recently ran a 400w on a light mover .. in a 3x6x6 room.. and I have an OG that is loving it.. a few other strains didn't really do well. but there are deff genetics out there that grow amazing in low light settings.. put it this way.. im going to be doing an entire grow of 2 strains that did great.. under the400.. and I bet money that ill hit just under 2 pounds with a 400w on a mover..

    its all about the strains. some hate it . some do GREAT. will upload soon. going to be taking pictures once I get the rest of my situation in order.. just flipped big room to flower. so got a lot of lollipopping and lsting to do .
     
  15. madscrapper

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    I use a light moving in flower room with my gavita..I love it.it evenly disperses light and gets light to parts of the plants that normally wouldn't get light.also,if u have a powerful light,with low ceilings,a light moved will keep your plants from frying.mine only uses 5w and cost about $100 for the 6' model.
     
  16. rmoltis

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    I was wondering how you arrived at 3x the lumens?

    my 400 watt hps draws 430 watts at the outlet. With the hortilux super hps bulb produces 55,000 initial lumens.
    55,000 lumens divided by 430 watts equals 127.9 lumens per watt.

    my 195 watt 2 foot 8 bulb t5 draws 200 watts at the outlet.
    it produces 16,000 lumens. 16,000 lumens divided by 200 watts equals 80 lumens per watt.

    now to be equivalent it would need the same electrical draw from the wall.
    so lets double the 16,000 lumens to 32,000 to equal 400 watts of t5 power.
    the lumens per watt will remain around 80 per watt.

    so my 400 watt hps produces 55,000 lumens @ 127.9 per watt.
    and 400 watt equivalent t5 fixture is 32,000 lumens @ 80 per watt.

    if you go with 4 foot 8 bulb t5 you could hit 123.45 lumens per watt.
    each ho bulb is 5,000 lumens and this 8 bulb 4 footer in front of me is labeled for 324 watts draw.


    hps seems to win in the long run by a small margin as far as efficiency is concerned (lumens per watt)

    the idea of t5 reducing heat.... if you put 400 watts of t5 in the same space as a 400 watt light you will produce similar amounts of heat. i have 1 200 watt 8 bulb t5 and when it turns on the tent warms up instantly. if the fan didnt run it would be an oven. if i had 2 in there i dont think it would be any cooler.

    just my opinion.
     
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  17. madscrapper

    madscrapper Well-Known Farmer

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    Double ended hps blows them all out the water regarding efficiency and par rating
     
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  18. rmoltis

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    i would like to make a small correction. i will copy and paste the above portion of my quoted text and re-write it correctly. this is yet one of the many times i need to edit my post and cant. i will say that everytime it happens lol.

    so my 400 watt hps produces 55,000 lumens @ 127.9 per watt.
    and 400 watt equivalent t5 fixture is 32,000 lumens @ 80 per watt (if i use the current 2 foot 8 bulb fixture i have in a pair)

    if you go with 4 foot 8 bulb t5 you could hit 92.59 lumens per watt.
    each ho bulb is 5,000 lumens and this 8 bulb 4 footer in front of me is labeled for 432 watts draw.
    (quoted text i was confusing a 6 bulb in front of me with an 8 bulb)

    hps seems to win in the long run by a good margin as far as efficiency is concerned (lumens per watt)
     
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  19. sixstring

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    Ya know whats funny?this thread is from 2009.

    Light movers rock.i got a 23 watt cfl on a light mover that draws 400watts but it covers my 12 x 20 foot room perfect.i have it set to pause for 10 minutes on each end fo betta shizzle on ma nizzle lmfao :)
     
  20. rmoltis

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    lol
     
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