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10 Year Grower Still Can't Clone :(

Discussion in 'Advanced Techniques & Problems' started by 5ecret 5quirrel, Mar 5, 2019.

  1. White fungus has kill my whole dome in less than a week. it's the second time this month . . .

    Cloning in dirty clone dome

    the medium is old soil and worm casting

    27 celsius in the root zone and 23 celsius above the soil



    1)I'm going to clean the dome,
    2)boil the medium to 100 Celsius
    3)run a uvc light in the dome, with ozone


    Any thoughts out there with the community?
     
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  2. Jimster

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    The easiest way that I have ever cloned anything was with a 2 inch or more cutting, dip the freshly cut tip in root-tone or similar rooting agent, and stick them in cups or something full of fresh and sterilized potting soil. If you push the cut edge about an inch into the soil, it should root quickly. You might want to skip the dome...it sounds like things are getting stagnant and waterlogged, causing mold and rot. My humidity is generally low, and I don't need to use any type of top covering. Keeping the humidity level lower can help prevent fungus and mold.
    Just my recommendation.
     
  3. i'll try it out, but i feel like that might be strain dependent. i'm running true og and she's always been really picky when it comes to cloning her.
     
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  4. I would suggest a bigger size of grodan (6 inch) cubes for a clean slate style ( and limit your trays to like 10-15 so theres no planted touching ) if it was me cause humidity takes it away and if you lose it it def can damage the whole process or promote other things. having a balanced clone medium so it never " fully dries or nothing stresess def makes all the example of failure of pass and I don't like throwing away my cutting .


    Physan 20 might be a great option for to guratee clean and a good defense ( clean all your trays and misc) . alot of disease start from the roots and begin , might as well protect yourself
     
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  5. Low Humidity to root clones ?
     
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  6. Samwell

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    27ºC seems a little too warm especially with high humidity
    would recommend fresh soil and aerating them for a while every day if you use the dome
     
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  7. i forgot to tell you guys that i'm in china, so i dont have the luxury of buying products :p .
    you think lowering the temp will be better? what temps do you recommend? the air in the dome is 23c, the grow medium is 27c
     
  8. yeah i don;t have rockwool option, that pic actually isnt mine, same problem but not my pic. my bad. im in the deep red state of prohibition so i don't have lots of options, gotta make what i got work. i got some beautiful og buds i can post later
     
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  9. Samwell

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    25º C or 23º C would be better but think more important to not have soggy soil
    and ventilate every day
     
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  10. Skip the dome. Mist them with water occasionally. That’s works for me.
     
  11. bam,problem solved,air pump from wal mart with 2 air stones in bottom held down with fishing weights,cross cuts in top of lid,foam from pipe wraps for outside spikets,drill 2 holes just above the handle grip,fill with water,take about 4in long cuts and in 7 to 10 days,roots,after about 13 days you have fishbone root system ,slowly lift the foam from the lid and just falls away,rooting powder in soil hole bury and in 5 months,drink cup of coffe and smoke a great doobie
     
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  12. fish pump with 2 air stones in bottom,7 to 10 days roots,cloner for 20 bucks
     
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  13. JWM2

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    That’s awesome bro. I love it.

    On a side note I used to take cuttings and put them in a cup of water. Wait about 10-14 days and bam you got roots. Sometimes you’d just see little white bumps on the stalks. Which is just fine. It’s still ready to go. Stick it in your grow medium and give them a little makeshift humidity dome for a couple days and bam you got yourself a clone. Cheap and easy. However this method doesn’t always work so it’s not fool proof. But it does work most of the time. It’s good to take extra cuttings and change out the water every few days so it doesn’t grow algae.
     
  14. ya i change the water twice a week,love that damn thing,ive cloned watermelons,tomato's,peppers shit name it,that one pic is tomato,i go ahead and let them fishbone and then to soil
     
  15. JWM2

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    For sure. In a Cloner you get roots much quicker. In just plain water without extra oxygen they don’t grow as quickly but it’s cheap and dirty so in a pinch it can help. Not a great method for the long run but I’ve run a few years doing just that. Environmental conditions do need to be dialed in though.
     
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  16. Dirtbag

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    OP if you can find it in China buy some Wilson's rooting Gel. It has a fungicide in it that prevents fusarium and damp off disease. Also lower your temp in the dome, and pre boil the water used for hydrating the rooting cubes. You should also clean the scissors you take the cuttings with in alcohol. Additionally you could also prebake wet peat pucks at 250 for an hour to sterilize them. I also mix a bit of wilsons gel into the boiled water for hydrating the cubes with as well.
     
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  17. Jimster

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    After thinking about the temps and using the dome...the warm soil gives off a lot of water vapor, while the interior of the dome is cooler than the ground. With the dome in place, you will get a LOT of condensation running off of the dome, plus it will probably be 100% relative humidity inside the dome, which is way to wet for my preferences. I'm not familiar with using one of these systems for rooting, like @JWM2 says, I usually just put a cutting into a small water glass with an inch of water in it. My thoughts are that the temps are a bit too high, which makes everything steamy, like a jungle. Mold/mildew love steamy atmospheres. If you lower the Rh a little, then the fungus, etc won't be able to take hold as easy.
     
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  18. If you make a (DIY) Aeroponic system, make sure it’s uv/light proof cause a lot of plastic is going to be too thin or be wrong colors . Test it and don’t let your project get fucked before you got your cutttings in em lol


    Just anther tip lol
     
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  19. If you started your own thread and update it with money saving alternatives to the expensive crap out there, I’d follow it.
     
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  20. Dirtbag

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    I'm stealing this idea.
     
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