Anyone heard of an insecticide called...

[Delerium]

Anyone heard of an insecticide called "Tanilin"
I'm not sure if the spelling is right but it comes in a small approx. 2 ounce squeeze bottle . I believe the label is yellow and has some Diatomaceous Earth in it claimed by the salesperson.
I know you use 40 drops per gallon.
Local shop had it, pretty steep to @ 44 bucks a btl pre discount.

 

[Delerium]

I just found it.
Company out of Australia.
The dude who did the recipe for Rock's Resinator I guess has started his own line.



Already have benies, didn't want to crack 50 bucks for 20ml bottle of an insecticide right on the spot before I looked into it.

 

[iCultivate]

I'm in Australia and can't say I've noticed it in shops.

Gnat Off is the one I use. Around the same price, so fairly exy.

-- iCultivate --

 

[Delerium]

I'm in Australia and can't say I've noticed it in shops.

Gnat Off is the one I use. Around the same price, so fairly exy.

-- iCultivate --

Seen Gnat off. I wonder if they knocked it off, I'll have to look at the ingredients.
I stopped by a shop that I rarely go to. Got into talking and he didn't have any brochures but a feeding chart card for CX hydro which he said his larger commercial guys were using instead of GH, House, Canna now.
Tanlin was mentioned on the feeding chart. I could not for the life of me find it online till I looked at the literature in the bag and seen the product on there.
Everything was coming up for Italian or Sri Lanka in the search engines.

I had spoken to a few shops in Australia looking into Rock and most said it is a solid co. Was so little info on it last year on the web including .Au
Did they change their name?
The co claims to be 15+ years old I'd figure to have found info a bit easier on the web.
Thanks -- iCultivate --

 

[iCultivate]

Gnat Off is simply Bti. It works and works well. Not cheap, but when the gants hit hard, any amount of money seems fine.

As for your question about Rock, to be honest I have no idea. I don't even know who makes Gnat Off, never scrutinised the label to that degree. Keep in mind that the industry is somewhat underground here. I mean obviously there are commercial retail hydro shops and all, but they all still have fairly small customer bases where many of them build repoire with the retailer. All the shops pretend it's all about growing tomatoes, but it's a joke. So companies that produce products rely on the shops for advertising, and word of mouth. There sure aren't any ads for hydro products on the TV!

-- iCultivate --

 

[Delerium]

Gnat Off is simply Bti. It works and works well. Not cheap, but when the gants hit hard, any amount of money seems fine.

As for your question about Rock, to be honest I have no idea. I don't even know who makes Gnat Off, never scrutinised the label to that degree. Keep in mind that the industry is somewhat underground here. I mean obviously there are commercial retail hydro shops and all, but they all still have fairly small customer bases where many of them build repoire with the retailer. All the shops pretend it's all about growing tomatoes, but it's a joke. So companies that produce products rely on the shops for advertising, and word of mouth. There sure aren't any ads for hydro products on the TV!

-- iCultivate --

Sounds like the same stuff that goes on in non-medical states here, you have to be a code talker. Technically even at a hydro stores in Michigan some still get irked if you talk about cannabis unless they know you , still is a no no, some still code talk.

 

[Seamaiden]

Why no MSDS for the Tanlin? I can't find one at all. That would tell you exactly what's in it.

 

[Delerium]

Why no MSDS for the Tanlin? I can't find one at all. That would tell you exactly what's in it.

I'm gonna look for it shortly. They didn't have any literature all they had was a feed schedule.
I didn't know it was the same manufacturer until i look at the card they gave me. SO I was trying not to forget the name of the insecticide the whole way home.

 

[Seamaiden]

I can't find an MSDS for the product, so please do attach or link it if you do. :) I've mentioned before that fungus gnats are the bane of my indoor cultivation, a chronic, debilitating problem when popping seeds inside, so I'm interested in all organic methods.

 

[neverbreak]

u had no success with bti sea? or cap bennies? always done the trick for me.

neverbreak

 

[Delerium]

running caps root and foliar.
I called biofloralusa.com of the MSDS, earlier today, they said they would email the info.

 

[Seamaiden]

u had no success with bti sea? or cap bennies? always done the trick for me.

neverbreak

This is the first time I'm doing Cap's bennies 'hard.' But yeah, Bti, like in the form of stuff like DiPel no es bueno.

 

[Delerium]

What is bti?

 

[mastacheeser]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacillus_thuringiensis_israelensis

 

[Delerium]

Cool, ty MC

 

[neverbreak]

This is the first time I'm doing Cap's bennies 'hard.' But yeah, Bti, like in the form of stuff like DiPel no es bueno.

dipel ain't var israelensis sea, it's kurstaki (btk). it won't work on gnats, only catepillars. for those ya need bti.

neverbreak

 

[leadsled]

Tanlin is a Chitin Extract.

 

[Seamaiden]

Excellent, I've got some frass samples from the Emerald Cup, as well as my own from my mealworm colony.

dipel ain't var israelensis sea, it's kurstaki (btk). it won't work on gnats, only catepillars. for those ya need bti.

neverbreak

Ah fuck... now I've gotta go downstairs and look at what I've got that's the Bti. You're right, but IIRC the label says it'll work in Sciarids. If the Mosquito Dunks are Bti, then I can state unequivocally that I've used those as well (that's why I tried the DiPel).

 

[Delerium]

Tanlin is a Chitin Extract.

chitinase will then be created in the plant as a defense, hence Sea's frass?

 

[leadsled]

chitinase will then be created in the plant as a defense, hence Sea's frass?

Yes correct, Insect frass contains plant available form of Chitosan. Vs using a extract done with a (chemical or enzymatic process not sure which one?) like with tanlin.