well guys hate to interupt you,,but my game is organic everything from weed to trees,contribute to it,,there isnt many us left it seems,,them clones there are weed if you didnt notice,and after 2 weeks they going in some of that char,,my soil also love the chiton,and the amends i make,,that is home made compost and i build my own soil,,so ya lets talk about old ways,just dont mention piss cause i still refuse to use it for nitrogen,hahaah,,started this cause for last 2 months cant find anything new in organic section,,so lets hear it,,be happy