Colorado Division Of Insurance Announces Significant Changes To The Individual Market

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I think Rand Paul has some good ideas for ObamaCare explosion.
So my questions are :
Does anyone know of any Insurance company that will cover cannabis crops.

Cannabis radio and other sources are saying:
I hear an underlying factor in Paul insurance planS is to have crop insurance for registered cannabis seed . Can someone provide any links and detail about this?

Paul introduced an amendment to limit subsidies to farmers whose income is less than $250,000. Speaking on the floor of the Senate, Paul explained, "My friends across the aisle are commonly saying why don't those of means pay more or receive less? This amendment would do precisely that. Nine percent of farmers earn more than $250,000 worth of gross income. This would limit their payments. Currently nine percent of farmers are receiving nearly a third of the benefits....I think this should change and that the wealthy shouldn't be receiving farm subsidies.

I hear Paul has a clause that strikes Feds Enforcement of Ins fraud on cannabis and allow audits to the Ins Companies as to to ease Ins Co liability and to stop Feds from any access to Insurance money.

https://ballotpedia.org/Rand_Paul_presidential_campaign,_2016/Agricultural_subsidies
Cannabis crop coverage - Check the local mags, I see ads for crop insurance for cannabis on a regular basis. The first unpaid google result is , but being in the industry, I'd like to see what the limitations and exclusions are before I would sign on the dotted line. I would also question how the insurance company operates or addresses the Commerce Clause, if it's an in-state carrier it might not apply, but that's not my gig.

I have asked before and not seen any response or feedback, but I do not believe cannabis will be part of ANY national insurance program, again, because of the commerce clause and probably more likely, the supremacy clause. The Controlled Substances Act does not recognize the medical benefits or use of marijuana, and the courts have generally agreed that making an exception for medical marijuana would make the entire Act unenforceable. Most importantly however, I don't see how cannabis crop insurance or coverage for seed stock would be included in this type of legislation. Marijuana is still schedule one, and that makes anything related effectively a non-starter.

The only cannabis insurance I can see happening, while keeping in mind it's schedule one status and the supremecy clause in mind. However, I think Hickenloopers recent claims of state sovereignty and state's rights make this more pertinent, I just wish this stuff was being discussed in 2012 with 1284 and 106:
Dissenting opinions in Gonzales v Reich via wiki-
Justice O'Connor dissented joined by Chief Justice William Rehnquist, who authored the majority opinions in United States v. Lopez and United States v. Morrison. O'Connor began her opinion by citing Lopez, which she followed with a reference to Justice Louis Brandeis's dissenting opinion in New State Ice Co. v. Liebmann:
We enforce the "outer limits" of Congress' Commerce Clause authority not for their own sake, but to protect historic spheres of state sovereignty from excessive federal encroachment and thereby to maintain the distribution of power fundamental to our federalist system of government. United States v. Lopez, 514 U. S. 549, 557 (1995); NLRB v. Jones & Laughlin Steel Corp., 301 U. S. 1, 37 (1937). One of federalism's chief virtues, of course, is that it promotes innovation by allowing for the possibility that "a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country." New State Ice Co. v. Liebmann, 285 U. S. 262, 311 (1932) (Brandeis, J., dissenting).
She concluded:
Relying on Congress’ abstract assertions, the Court has endorsed making it a federal crime to grow small amounts of marijuana in one’s own home for one’s own medicinal use. This overreaching stifles an express choice by some States, concerned for the lives and liberties of their people, to regulate medical marijuana differently. If I were a California citizen, I would not have voted for the medical marijuana ballot initiative; if I were a California legislator I would not have supported the Compassionate Use Act. But whatever the wisdom of California’s experiment with medical marijuana, the federalism principles that have driven our Commerce Clause cases require that room for experiment be protected in this case.
Justice Thomas also wrote a separate dissent, stating in part:
Respondents Diane Monson and Angel Raich use marijuana that has never been bought or sold, that has never crossed state lines, and that has had no demonstrable effect on the national market for marijuana. If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can regulate virtually anything—and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers.
Respondent's local cultivation and consumption of marijuana is not "Commerce... among the several States."
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Certainly no evidence from the founding suggests that "commerce" included the mere possession of a good or some personal activity that did not involve trade or exchange for value. In the early days of the Republic, it would have been unthinkable that Congress could prohibit the local cultivation, possession, and consumption of marijuana.
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If the Federal Government can regulate growing a half-dozen cannabis plants for personal consumption (not because it is interstate commerce, but because it is inextricably bound up with interstate commerce), then Congress' Article I powers – as expanded by the Necessary and Proper Clause – have no meaningful limits. Whether Congress aims at the possession of drugs, guns, or any number of other items, it may continue to "appropria[te] state police powers under the guise of regulating commerce."
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If the majority is to be taken seriously, the Federal Government may now regulate quilting bees, clothes drives, and potluck suppers throughout the 50 States. This makes a mockery of Madison's assurance to the people of New York that the "powers delegated" to the Federal Government are "few and defined", while those of the States are "numerous and indefinite."

As it relates to health insurance in Colorado, Amendment 20 specifically states that insurance companies are not liable for claims related to marijuana, medical or otherwise.
 
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Obamacare Replacement Plan-

From Employee Benefit Advisor, an industry publication.

7 Key Provisions-
  1. The proposal would delay until 2025, instead of permanently repealing, a tax on high-cost insurance plans. (the cadillac tax)
  2. The proposal immediately ends a requirement that individuals have insurance coverage and another rule that requires some businesses to offer coverage to their workers.
  3. The proposal expands the allowable size of healthcare savings accounts that can be coupled with high-deductible insurance plans. Those amounts now rise to as much as $6550 for an indiviudal or $13100 for a family. [these are current amounts]
  4. The bill includes an advanceable, refundable tax credit to assist those buying health insurance. The credit starts at $2k per person, and a family can qualify to receive as much as $14k. Credits phase out for individuals making more than $75k or double for couples filing jointly.
  5. The House Republicans’ bill aims to maintain coverage for people with pre-existing conditions and allow children to stay on their parents’ health plans until the age of 26. While the plan would allow people with pre-existing conditions to buy insurance, it would require ‘continuous’ coverage to discourage people from buying coverage only when they get sick. Individuals who don’t maintain health insurance for longer than a set period of time would face 30% higher premiums as a penalty.
  6. The plan would give states a $100 billion fund over a decade to help people with lower-income afford insurance, and to help stabilize state insurance markets. The fund could be used to help lower patients’ out of pocket costs or to promote access to preventive services.
  7. The GOP plan winds down Obamacare’s expansion of Medicaid as a way to expand healthcare coverage. By contrast, it changes to a per-capita system, where states are given a set amount for the number of popel in categories, including the disabled, elderly, childless adults and pregnant mothers.
 
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This doesn't apply to Colorado since we have our own exchange, but the biggest reason I'm posting this here is because fuck wsj and their paywall.

Paul Ryan Signals Support for Insurance Payments Under ACA
March 30, 2017 By Kristina Peterson

WASHINGTON—House Speaker Paul Ryan said the Trump administration should continue making payments to insurers under the Affordable Care Act to avoid destabilizing the market.

The collapse of the House GOP health-care bill last week has thrown into doubt the future of the payments, which Republicans have been challenging in court as invalid. If the payments are cut off, insurers will lose billions of dollars in expected funding and will likely flee the ACA’s exchanges, markets where millions of people purchase insurance coverage who don't get it from another source.

“While the lawsuit is being litigated then the administration funds these benefits. That’s how they’ve been doing it and I don’t see any change in that,” Mr. Ryan of Wisconsin told reporters Thursday. Mr. Ryan is the highest-ranking Republican to address the issue and his comments suggest Republicans aren't preparing to take immediate steps to undermine the ACA, the 2010 law also known as Obamacare for the president who signed it.

The government payments reimburse insurers for subsidies that lower the cost of deductibles, copayments and coinsurance for about six million people who obtain insurance on the ACA’s exchanges.

Other senior Republicans, including Sen. John Thune of South Dakota, have also expressed concern about what would happen to the insurance marketplace. But conservatives may balk at continuing the payments.

Meanwhile, Mr. Ryan said it was still “unresolved” how House Republicans will approach their lawsuit to stop the payments, which they say are illegal. The lawsuit was suspended as Republicans pushed to replace the ACA, but GOP leaders have said the 2010 health-care law is likely to remain in place for now, in the wake of House Republicans’ failure to sew up enough support to pass their bill repealing and replacing it last week.

Mr. Ryan did indicate that House Republicans aren't ready to drop the lawsuit yet because they don't want to cede authority to the executive branch.

House Republicans filed the lawsuit seeking to block the ACA subsidies in 2014, when former President Barack Obama was still in office, asserting the payments were made without the required congressional appropriation.

“We don’t want to drop the lawsuit because we believe in the separation of powers, in Congress retaining its lawmaking power,” Mr. Ryan said.

The Obama administration argued the funds were made available in another part of the act that provided money from the U.S. Treasury for other subsidies that reduce the cost of health insurance.

A federal judge in 2016 ruled the government payments were improper but let them continue while the Obama administration pursued an appeal. After Donald Trump’s election, Republicans requested and received an initial delay in the case.

Mr. Trump can unilaterally end the payments: If the Trump administration settles the suit and drops the appeal, payments will cease and insurers will likely increase premiums or abandon the exchanges. The payments will otherwise amount to roughly $130 billion from 2017 through 2026, according to the Congressional Budget Office.

If the administration ends the payments, Congress will have to approve funding if lawmakers decide they wanted the subsidies to continue.

Some Republicans argue Democrats will remain responsible for flaws in the Affordable Care Act if coverage options narrow or out-of-pocket costs rise in the coming years.

But Democrats maintain they won’t shoulder the political blame for decisions made while Republicans have full control of Washington and have called for them to withdraw the lawsuit.

“Republicans control the White House, the Senate, and the House of Representatives,” House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer of Maryland said on the House floor this week. “As a result, they are the governing party and will be responsible for anything that happens to our health care system on their watch.”

—Stephanie Armour contributed to this article.

Write to Kristina Peterson at [email protected]
 
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In Colorado, before the ACA, every single person in this state had access to insurance and health care, the prohibitive factor being cost. The rising cost of the delivery of health care is the major crisis that is being ignored during repeal/replace/repeal in name only talks in washington. Our safety net program was funded by premiums paid by other policyholders, it was called Cover Colorado and it went bye-bye. Alaska is similar to Colorado with their claims experience with related shortages of rural providers and expensive transportation costs like air ambulance services.

"Individual health insurance premiums here [Alaska] climbed almost 40% annually after the ACA went into effect, and high health care costs drove all but one provider, Premera Blue Cross and Blue Shield, out of the market in 2017."

"Premera reported that last year it paid about $67 million in claims for individual members on the Alaska exchange - with more than $16 million going for just 20 patients."

Alaska passed legislation requiring insurers pay into a reinsurance fund to help defray the costs for high claims incurred, a program eerily similar to what was going on in this state before the ACA.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/06/news/economy/alaska-health-care-reform/index.html

This is the frustrating part for me, is that the crisis of cost continues to go unaddressed while the number of uninsured goes up.

The question with no answer comes when we ask how to address those costs and high claims without blowing up the entire system, rising premiums past the point of affordability or the appearance of such, even with subsidies and tax breaks.
 
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http://kff.org/interactive/proposal...le-care-act/?gclid=CJvmla-50dMCFci6wAoda1EFHQ

President Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress have committed to repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act (ACA). How do their replacement proposals compare to the ACA? How do they compare to each other?

Plans available for comparison:

  • The American Health Care Act, introduced by the House Republican leadership, March 6, 2017, with amendments as of April 26, 2017 (PDF)
  • The Affordable Care Act, 2010 (PDF)
 
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Carriers file to offer health insurance plans in every Colorado county in 2018
https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/do...th-insurance-plans-every-colorado-county-2018


I haven't read the republican version of the replacement bill, but it's doomed to fail. Scott Adams says why:
[In part]
People accuse me of imagining that everything President Trump does is brilliant (persuasion-wise) no matter what he does. But I expect the next version of the Republican healthcare bill to be a complete failure. That’s because Republicans seem deeply committed to a losing path, thanks to what might be called the Contrast Problem.

Contrast is the driving principle behind all decisions. You have to know how your options differ, and by how much, or else you have no basis for a decision. President Obama solved for the contrast problem by designing Obamacare to cover more people than before. The rest of the details – especially the costs – were hard to predict, so our brains flushed that noise and focused on the greater number of people covered.

Everyone knew Obamacare would need future tuning to get it right. That gave us mental permission to focus on the good parts we understood – the greater coverage – and hope the other details would get worked out later. President Obama nailed the Contrast Problem like the Master Persuader he is.

That was then.

Now, President Trump and the Republicans have the “going second” problem. The public will compare their proposed bill with Obamacare and conclude that the one metric they understand – the number of people covered – does not compare favorably with Obamacare. The contrast is fatal.

We know Paul Ryan will do his wonkish best to tell us about all the amazing advantages of this new bill. And we know the public won’t understand any of it. But they sure will know it doesn’t cover as many people. Done. Bury it.

During the campaign, candidate Trump made some references to taking care of everyone. It sounded like universal coverage, but no one thought he meant it.

He did mean it.

He meant it because he understands the contrast problem. Any Obamacare replacement needs to cover more people than Obamacare, or else it is dead on arrival. Any skilled persuader would see that.

Paul Ryan doesn’t see the Contrast Problem as important, evidently.

I think most trained persuaders would agree that the one-and-only path to a successful replacement of Obamacare should include AT A MINIMUM a plan to reach greater coverage. And the only way to get there is by goosing innovation in the healthcare field. We can’t tax our way to full healthcare coverage. We need to lower the costs. And President Trump also needs to solve the Contrast Problem.

 
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never ever forget. this crap was " ram-rodded " down joe six's pie hole by a full house of dem's controlling it. not much reading or warning BEFORE HAND by the party for the little man.

insurance was an issue 25 years ago. but united was like all state or state farm the best so every small mom and pop business used them because they wanted the best for employees keeping them happy.

but at the same time america was sold down the river with china taking all the manufacturing, middle class wealth as the blu bloods that own home depot, walmart, fortune 500 went global and made a killing.

now we fast forward. middle class gone, robotics, technology cramming down even more across all industries. BUT we have all these very, very longterm obligations at wages for government workers that are mind-numbing. pension plans for retired teachers over $100,000.00 per year. then at 55 a friend gets him a second job with the city at 55 working a simple job at $22.00 per hour cleaning parks as this pension rolls in ... or he's fishing in Florida ...
 
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sorry for the rant but these numbers big pharma charges, the millions wasted, and at the end of the day no matter who is in politics on either side fix a damn thing but one thing in 2017 we do have is totally out of control healthcare on all levels and saying this couldn't be project or assumed by those at the top selling out our jobs is laughable.

so fix a mess in 2017, your just pushing a bunch of shit around a floor. putting lipstick on a pig .... joe six / all of us screwed and the cost for insurance for a family run business with one hundred employees in illinois is around 2 million plus per year.

a total joke. these bums tossed this train wreck onto .gov , this is planned as things crash. kinda like socialism eh ?
 
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Carriers file to offer health insurance plans in every Colorado county in 2018
https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/do...th-insurance-plans-every-colorado-county-2018


I haven't read the republican version of the replacement bill, but it's doomed to fail. Scott Adams says why:
[In part]
People accuse me of imagining that everything President Trump does is brilliant (persuasion-wise) no matter what he does. But I expect the next version of the Republican healthcare bill to be a complete failure. That’s because Republicans seem deeply committed to a losing path, thanks to what might be called the Contrast Problem.

Contrast is the driving principle behind all decisions. You have to know how your options differ, and by how much, or else you have no basis for a decision. President Obama solved for the contrast problem by designing Obamacare to cover more people than before. The rest of the details – especially the costs – were hard to predict, so our brains flushed that noise and focused on the greater number of people covered.

Everyone knew Obamacare would need future tuning to get it right. That gave us mental permission to focus on the good parts we understood – the greater coverage – and hope the other details would get worked out later. President Obama nailed the Contrast Problem like the Master Persuader he is.

That was then.

Now, President Trump and the Republicans have the “going second” problem. The public will compare their proposed bill with Obamacare and conclude that the one metric they understand – the number of people covered – does not compare favorably with Obamacare. The contrast is fatal.

We know Paul Ryan will do his wonkish best to tell us about all the amazing advantages of this new bill. And we know the public won’t understand any of it. But they sure will know it doesn’t cover as many people. Done. Bury it.

During the campaign, candidate Trump made some references to taking care of everyone. It sounded like universal coverage, but no one thought he meant it.

He did mean it.

He meant it because he understands the contrast problem. Any Obamacare replacement needs to cover more people than Obamacare, or else it is dead on arrival. Any skilled persuader would see that.

Paul Ryan doesn’t see the Contrast Problem as important, evidently.

I think most trained persuaders would agree that the one-and-only path to a successful replacement of Obamacare should include AT A MINIMUM a plan to reach greater coverage. And the only way to get there is by goosing innovation in the healthcare field. We can’t tax our way to full healthcare coverage. We need to lower the costs. And President Trump also needs to solve the Contrast Problem.
That is a very good post, and a very good point! Kudos to you for caring and posting about real world problems... I totally agree with your assessment!
Sometimes I think some ppl think we are just a bunch of Pot heads :(
 
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Fart noise! This thread is just as political as some of the political threads that get shut down. Shut it down or your banned!:badboy:
it will be alright... There is life after my 3rd bong hit... Abet, much more relaxing after hits from the bong....
 
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never ever forget. this crap was " ram-rodded " down joe six's pie hole by a full house of dem's controlling it. not much reading or warning BEFORE HAND by the party for the little man.

insurance was an issue 25 years ago. but united was like all state or state farm the best so every small mom and pop business used them because they wanted the best for employees keeping them happy.

but at the same time america was sold down the river with china taking all the manufacturing, middle class wealth as the blu bloods that own home depot, walmart, fortune 500 went global and made a killing.

now we fast forward. middle class gone, robotics, technology cramming down even more across all industries. BUT we have all these very, very longterm obligations at wages for government workers that are mind-numbing. pension plans for retired teachers over $100,000.00 per year. then at 55 a friend gets him a second job with the city at 55 working a simple job at $22.00 per hour cleaning parks as this pension rolls in ... or he's fishing in Florida ...
Retarded crazy... but your right on point!
 
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i could go on and on ...... but some like the Haze of todays Daze.

i " clowned " an inhouse economist for cat befoore and after commodity super cycle ended. so no golf claps needed on a pot forum. i stick with growing ....

but every single thing across the globe is over valued by hundreds of percent and very, very unstable.

the global banking system in its entirety is finished. the central banks, governments used magic after 2007 for asset inflation / Q. E quantitative easing.

the aftermath of this as it finds its true bottom based of organic growth will be ruff. this all played out in the 20's, 30's and 40's. but the problems are much larger today. and this is just economics and macro growth and what can fund monthly interest rates. look around, almost every entity is insolvent. not many people, counties, countries, can fund themselves off money coming in monthly.

and think uber, amazon for malls, the computer taking your money at target. all these jobs getting destroyed. now thing spending power or spending at the local store, it all cascades.

but who's paying the bill on previous spending cost or future assumptions ....


gulp .... the entire banking system is global. the central banks are now. " under water " ..

the can kicking generation after generation is upon us, its over. but the fog of assumptions once gone shows a floor drop that can be vast and very painful. and the world in general as we speak .... is not one big happy family.

just think about currencies. the USD dollar has gone up about 20%, many countries and businesses borrow in USD from other currencies then take out loans. so this adds massive stress as this construct can add cost.

the 1 month, 1 year, 10 year ( bond used for libor rate / credit cards ect ) all trending the wrong way. the funding cost producing a dollar shortage of sorts that presses it upward more ....

the insurance industry , mutal funds in heavy into credit markets / stocks. its the reason they did the bailouts the depression would / should have started in 2007.
 
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Fart noise! This thread is just as political as some of the political threads that get shut down. Shut it down or your banned!:badboy:
This thread should not be political, at all. Insurance is boring for the 99% of people who are reading this post, and I am posting in this thread because politics clouds everything. I appreciate spider's sentiments, and I agree with most of what he's saying, but I would rather refrain from a R/D/Conservative/Liberal talking points etc.

At the end of the day, the crisis of cost will continue to go unaddressed, and we'll see how far down the road the can gets kicked.

If you get this thread closed, NO CHERRIES FOR YOU. Don't worry, the trolls will be along shortly. If they can get the curmudgeon thread shut down then it's just a matter of time until this place goes crickets, not just this thread.
 
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i could go on and on ...... but some like the Haze of todays Daze.

i " clowned " an inhouse economist for cat befoore and after commodity super cycle ended. so no golf claps needed on a pot forum. i stick with growing ....

but every single thing across the globe is over valued by hundreds of percent and very, very unstable.

the global banking system in its entirety is finished. the central banks, governments used magic after 2007 for asset inflation / Q. E quantitative easing.

the aftermath of this as it finds its true bottom based of organic growth will be ruff. this all played out in the 20's, 30's and 40's. but the problems are much larger today. and this is just economics and macro growth and what can fund monthly interest rates. look around, almost every entity is insolvent. not many people, counties, countries, can fund themselves off money coming in monthly.

and think uber, amazon for malls, the computer taking your money at target. all these jobs getting destroyed. now thing spending power or spending at the local store, it all cascades.

but who's paying the bill on previous spending cost or future assumptions ....


gulp .... the entire banking system is global. the central banks are now. " under water " ..

the can kicking generation after generation is upon us, its over. but the fog of assumptions once gone shows a floor drop that can be vast and very painful. and the world in general as we speak .... is not one big happy family.

just think about currencies. the USD dollar has gone up about 20%, many countries and businesses borrow in USD from other currencies then take out loans. so this adds massive stress as this construct can add cost.

the 1 month, 1 year, 10 year ( bond used for libor rate / credit cards ect ) all trending the wrong way. the funding cost producing a dollar shortage of sorts that presses it upward more ....

the insurance industry , mutal funds in heavy into credit markets / stocks. its the reason they did the bailouts the depression would / should have started in 2007.
Global banking rant/post in a thread about individual insurance in Colorado?

ok.
 
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it's all part of the same problem indeed.

don't worry. the " issue " is already unfolding. so everyone with debt will be in very deep trouble across many nations, currencies and such.

the music stopped in the banking system in 2007. this quantitative easing " can-kick " monetary experiment 25-35 trillion " lab test " has ended.

like my two calls about bitcoin over the last three years on this forum, lets sit back and see if this unfolds and how much pain debt holders feel as assets ( stocks, homes, used cars ) are market - market 100's% over value if you project forward income levels and debt servicing abilities.

show me an entity ( person, county, state, country ) that in 2017 can fund itself ? Month over month with true saving capital ????

global gdp has been around 1-1 1/2% the last 8 years. not gonna cut it, again this all happened in the banking system in the 30-40's...... just history repeating. many, many debt bag-holders will go un payed .....
 
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it's all part of the same problem indeed.

don't worry. the " issue " is already unfolding. so everyone with debt will be in very deep trouble across many nations, currencies and such.

the music stopped in the banking system in 2007. this quantitative easing " can-kick " monetary experiment 25-35 trillion " lab test " has ended.

like my two calls about bitcoin over the last three years on this forum, lets sit back and see if this unfolds and how much pain debt holders feel as assets ( stocks, homes, used cars ) are market - market 100's% over value if you project forward income levels and debt servicing abilities.

show me an entity ( person, county, state, country ) that in 2017 can fund itself ? Month over month with true saving capital ????

global gdp has been around 1-1 1/2% the last 8 years. not gonna cut it, again this all happened in the banking system in the 30-40's...... just history repeating. many, many debt bag-holders will go un payed .....
In an effort to engage your post, there are many entities (businesses) that engage in partial or fully self funded insurance plans, which helps mitigate risk and control premiums.

Are you familiar with these types of insurance plans, or does this not fit into your posting requirements?

Bitcoin? Isn't that what miners did to check the quality of their nuggets?
 
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no bitcoin was the call i made before (2) 30% plus moves ........

let me guess. entities solving a debt problem with more ............... debt ?

again, the very problem ARE THE PEOPLE WORKING FOR .GOV !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( think pension and taxes )

the cost of a .government that continues growing and who's paying for this ???????

the destroyed middle class who need " help " mitigating risk and controlling premiums >>>

if people had jobs , well paying jobs this " help " would not be needed, same thing for inner city poor, they do not need anyones help.

they need jobs sold off in the name of globalization ..... all this kids coming out of college with 100,000 k in debt ...... what industry is not downsized or slowing or operating on razor thin margins ????
 
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so your telling me in the early 1990's an economist could not project a country getting crushed if we sell off our manufacturing ?

a third grader could project this forward over 40 years as our insurance cost have climbed against this ?? ross perot warned the nation how this would unfold. but the fake news painted him as a loon', lol' .......

so was it planned ? not one person questioned this and how it unfolded, no, no you can view these very arguments at the chicago school of finance hosted by milton friedman ...... early 80's ......

truth hurts ? blue bloods telling us how great things will be ~~~~~~


 
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