Info on getting an MMED tag to work in a CO dispensary

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sky high

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We'd all love to have a career growing weed...

and a bunch of us DID have "careers" growing weed here until the Easy-Streeters came to town and laid down in bed with the STATE and fucked our game.

And still...they come. :confused:
 
Texas Kid

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I gone full circle now..basement crusader and hustler direct to the dispensary, said fuck that and got in the game with a MIPS, built two bakeries we had to close due to all kinds of bullshit, got fed up with the system and went back underground to grow for a private group for a few years, now I say fuck it again, if ya can't beat'm join'm..lol..plus I just can not grow at the scale I like in the private sector and stay out of jail

I've got a super sweet gig now and couldn't be more excited every day..
 
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I played it safe for all those years and only had a couple of contacts. That came around to bite me in the ass when things got so easy and everyone found their teeny-tiny balls and began to play.

Can only be glad at this point that I played the game as hard as I did when I did and had no >legal problems< along the way.

What a change from the days when we quartered-up (1/4 OZ) an lb and fed the shredders on the slopes the whole thing in one day. :D Slurp.....those were the daze....
 
LocalGrowGuy

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CatJock and to Kolah ; here is one more point that is hidden currently about working with an MMED and the forms. Fed and State forms;its easy to admit usage of any kind when filling out these forms but beware;
1. driving DUID; if you admit MMJ usage- these forms constitute " reasonable cause "(sobiety test) then comes the car search in dry counties like Otero County, jail with a 10 day mandatory minimum next. I know there MMED forms are private and not avaliable to state cops yet,. can explain this legally if needed
2. Obama Care, as we speak Obama Care is still being written and re-written. Some new additions to health care
  • As part of health care FDA, Fed Dept of Ag and Many other agencies you'll find the Pooling/grouping of terms (Tobacco use, Drugs, and smokers)
  • Like many other socialized Med countries new verb-age to support and added cost to the insured , smokers tax you. higher - Co-pay/deductible
  • NewVerb-age smoking cessation practices,” and or replace the word “practices” with “treatment.”
  • NewVerb-age to include "At time of medical visit Smokers absorb 'treatment program' cost to maintain Insurance plan" . Gov Drug Treatment, huh?
All this COULD happen after you check the box, I use MMJ or smoke tobacco. Be careful. Still speculative as some are currently fighting this privacy and tax invasion for us.

Lino, you seem like a nice guy, and you seem to be pretty smart. However, I have to call bullshit on you, here. I am in the health insurance industry here in Colorado, and your post either doesn't make sense or more likely, doesn't apply.

If you don't mind, please cite a source and let us know where you get your info, because it's wrong.
Section 14, 1a states, '(10) (a) No governmental, private, or any other health insurance provider shall be required to be liable for any claim for reimbursement for the medical use of marijuana.' This means that insurance companies do not and will not pay claims related to the use of illegal drugs. For the purposes of healthcare reform and the commerce clause, insurance companies will never, ever allow the use of that drug. There is too much liability.

People are already 'pooled', this is nothing new to the industry. Tobacco has always been rated up, but now it's the only item you can get rated up for, and the rate is +50% of the base premium.

You say 'new verbage' and then say 'new verbage to be added'. What are you talking about and where can others find this info?

Thanks.
 
lino

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localGuy, and likewise, i read you threads on hospitals cost and I agree with all that also. I am not going to claim that I can do something no man on this earth can do. That claim would be to understand or even have the ability to quote Obama Care, no man on earth can do that yet. Not even the greatest Dr or the Baddest Admin at your hospital, or the baddest attorney can quote or understand Obama care... it is over 15,000 pgs written by 1000's of lawyers. BUT it far more complex than that, not only is under change and scrutiny by house republican it is tied to all other agencies of Fed and State Gov, and to make harder to understand.. 1000's of laws tied to Obama care and making much of actual Obama law is STILL under court actions so its impossible to even know what Obama care is or will be in the future and that is what I speak of, No Certainty and interpretation to fit whatever authorities want! So rather than FILL Kolah thread with Obama shit and EPA and FDA quoted law before supreme courts

Id say localgrowGuy I was just telling Kolah to be careful filling out Gov forms as many political figures are trying to Impose Gov TREATMENT programs as we speak.

Lino, you seem like a nice guy, and you seem to be pretty smart. However, I have to call bullshit on you, here. I am in the health insurance industry here in Colorado, and your post either doesn't make sense or more likely, doesn't apply.. What are you talking about and where can others find this info?

I'm gonna kinda wait till this EPA and FDA law before supreme courts is decided rite bout Jan 14, Gov shut down time. I'll post the newly decided laws on my Gov shut down thread so I can brag a "i told ya so there" or if Obama looses the decision no further discussion needed cause I hate being wrong. I'm saving all my Quote "bullshit" for that thread just in case i'm correct in Feb 2014... let talk then. on the Gov shut down thread, we'll throw down then... lol


 
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My biggest bitch is this entire bullshit process aka "Red Badge of Courage"( the fees, the invasions of privacy, the "lotto" bullshit, etc). CO voted for "legalization" and ran on the motto of "treat it like alcohol." Oh really?

So do you need anything special to get a gig selling booze as a clerk? Hell no. Do you have to pay a fee to be a cashier in a liquor joint? Who the hell had the idea to make working in a potshop such a money grabbing and red taped affair? Who the hell dreamt up that idea and how did it come to be?

I think it should be repealed, dismantled and abandoned. And the State politico piggies should uphold the State Constitution and tell the feds to back off. But there I go dreaming again. And how did the voting process stop this entire mess? It didn't help one iota.
 
caveman4.20

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Crime here is what ya gotta worry about the Mexicans here suck ass.......cockroaches.......I suggest heavy caliber hollow points n pitbulls. They are pussy thieving cowards and suck to live around. Rippers are worse here in Pueblo than E Los Angeles and the culture is ten times as weak.

Tone down the hate brother it's contagious and may ruin the thread...just some advice for a new member plus it's hard to read all the hate and not say anything so hopefully it ends there but positive vibes your way and hopefully rippers stay away from your stash. Peace
 
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I guess from his "shtty" comments that all the white folks in Pueblo are law abiding and heterosexual. I am unsure how anyone can "love" a city yet hate a majority of the people living in it. I always thought it was the people that made the city.

In a way I find it sad to see this much hate in a person. And sadly I have met others (young and old) who seem to act and feel similar.
 
caveman4.20

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Well Kolah without me imposing I'll say this negative energy flows until the conductor breaks if it's a small break the energy will jump and continue if it's a big break the energy dissapates and is diluted in positivity .......I hate hating so much that I try to minimize hate....I don't hate shtty I hate his hate! But I'm not comfortable with that and I'm working on that Peace and respect fellow farmers and may all your harvest be bountiful and protected
 
lino

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shtty, you're in the heartland of low foreheads and thieves (all races down there). $400 sack in Putown and $600-$800 oz's if ya try getting past Noga, stateTrooper, on down hiway $50, them boys will search you and your car...

Mex and Mexican American are 2 different strains but in Putown the cultures overlap. It not as bad as in s. Cali as you get more of migrant Mex down in Putown as compared to S, Cali. but they overlap , meaning the cultures integrate because of the huge influx in Mex over the years w/o return home to Mex causing an inter-breeding of Cultures rite in the homeland. This has created a hybred of little thieves down there because of the poverty and disease that comes with 3rd world countries. Illegal's jump borders, it's not Mex Dr and Lawyers running the border , Its criminal activity and criminals that do this. Dr's make Dr's and criminals breed more criminals and were filling up the USA with Mex gangs quick. Does the Mex gangs in your hood have kids that grow up to be scientist or plant thieves? shtty, I havent read anything to indicate yur a racist. Ya sound like a pist off why boy that just got his plants ripped off. Did you get photos?

Remember, 3 hispanic men broke into burning car fire and saved a pregnant women from burning car fire, Also a guy comes running into the bar a shouts a bunch of fucking Mex broke into my car and stole my CDs. He thought Zimmerman was a Cracker so he punched him. these statements true but at what point are we racist?

Back to MMED, sorry Mods,,,its sounds like Shtty jus needed a little venting. it hurts getting ripped by any race...
 
AmWeedwolf

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Y'all are funny. Most educational workers (and anyone working with children), healthcare workers, government workers, financial specialists, and computer/IT managers will need to pass extensive background checks for their jobs. Many other jobs require hundreds of hours of education and/or professional experience and expensive licensing. An HVAC contractor usually needs around 800 hours of education/experience plus $1000 annual license. Even a cosmetologist will need 400 hours of education and must pay for a $150 annual license. California licenses 40 different low income occupations which require 549 days of education or experience, on average, and $450 in annual license fees, on average.

Now why on earth would cannabis be any different?

It's virtually impossible to compare cannabis to any other (legal) crop, as few command prices above $20/lb. However, if you want to make the big bucks in a career in horticulture, I'd suggest tea (yeah the black or green stuff).

It's also difficult to compare weed production/sales with that of people who work in liquor stores, sell cigarettes, or OTC medicines. How big of a bag do you think you'd need to carry $1 million worth of liquor, cigarettes, or aspirin? For reference, here's a picture of around $1 million worth of weed (350 lbs, depending on quality) on a 6'x3' table. It would probably fit nicely into 4 or 5 large duffel bags. It would easily fit into most car trunks. In contrast, you'd need a large 18 wheel lorry (or two or three perhaps) loaded with liquor, cigs, or aspirin to equal that much. Maybe now you can see why such extensive background checks are required?

Thanks for everyones feedback on this topic.

So...Do the Big Pharma workers have to go through such a in-depth background check?
How about the little people who work in drug store pharmacies?
What about people who work in liquor stores?
People who sell cigs?
People who sell aspirin? cough syrup?

If not, then can someone explain to me why MJ employees are held to such bullshit regulations? I could see it if it was selling meth, crack or heroin but it's just fucking weed, a mild drug which wears off in about 3 hours, is non-toxic, non-addicting and has never be proven to kill anyone.

The owner called me again this morning trying to convince me that the MMED badging process is not all that bad. I think not. And there is really no way around it as he would be risking his ass to cover mine.

1) To work for big pharma:

1) To work with Novartis, first you'll need a college degree. Only a few companies hire straight out of college, so expect to do a lengthy and underpaid internship before you'll ever get a "real job" in the industry. As for the background check:
This is a typical Pre-Employement Background Check with Employment Verification. It takes 2 days.

Level 1 - Pre Employment Screening Background Check

* Verifies your Applicant’s Identity
* Verifies Social Security Number
* Verifies Address history and reports 30-year search results
* Counties of residence history, which is important for criminal records check
* Criminal records background check in applicant’s state of residence.
* Criminal records background check in county of residence if statewide information is not available
* Verifies Education
* Verifies Employment history for three employers
* Sexual Offender database search
* Terrorist watch database search
* Bankruptcy search
* Tax lien search
* 24 hour access to your Background Check Pre Employment Screening Report
* Report posted on a secure web page in two business days.
* Continued support with free consultation by telephone or email about your Pre Employment Screening Report.
* Guaranteed Satisfaction with Pre Employment Screening or no charge

View Sample Report

Level 2 - Pre Employment Screening Background Check

Level 2 includes and exceeds Level 1 Report with the following enhancements:

* Federal Criminal Record background check is included in Level 2.
* Criminal Record background check is expanded to cover all states and counties listed in your Applicant’s address history.
* Civil Records Search is included.
* Driving Violations over previous three year are included..
* Verify Employment history for 4 employers (increased from 3).
* Verify Professional Licenses for all licenses and certifications listed by your Applicant.
* Corporate Ownership and Officer Search to reveal if your applicant owns a corporation or is a corporate officer..
* Level 2 Report will be posted on a secure web page in three business days to allow time for enhanced search
source:
http://cafepharma.com/boards/threads/what-does-employment-verification.216412/

To work in a pharmacy, you'll need:
  1. a Ph.D. in pharmacy (It requires at least two years of undergraduate college study, then four academic years (or three calendar years) of professional pharmacy study, according to the American Association of Colleges of Pharmacy.) that will cost from $75,000 to $150,000.
  2. Pass the NAPLEX and/or MPJE and/or state specific exams, each of which cost over $500 each time they are taken.
  3. at least 1500 hour internship, which will pay next to nothing
  4. Pass corporate, and often state, background checks. Federal law stipulates that prospective pharmacy employees pass an extensive background check. Furthermore, several states have enacted laws requiring background checks for pharmacy-related personnel. Arkansas, for example, has a provision that states: Prior to or contemporaneously with filing an application form for the applicable license or registration, each applicant for a new intern or pharmacist license, or a new or reinstated registration as a pharmacy technician issued by the Board, except as explicitly provided herein, shall apply, using forms furnished by and pursuant to instructions provided by the Board, for state and national criminal background checks, to be conducted by the Arkansas State Police Identification Bureau and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Really, cannabis workers have it great!
Entry level jobs are available with no experience or education. Few growers in the industry carry advanced degrees, and very few positions require one. No tests are required. License fees are average. Working conditions range from decent to immaculate with very few health risks. Unlike many other industries, pre employment drug testing is almost nonexistent. Average pay is higher than other horticulture and retail sales jobs. Be reasonable, people, and gain some perspective!
 
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Licensing and bureaucracy is the only way Colorado doesn't end up with DEA thugs torching and destroying our businesses unlike what the "industry" in CA has experienced because of lack of regulation. The MED runs a simple CBG w/ FBI fingerprint screening and they check to make sure you don't owe state taxes - how difficult is that for someone to pass? Even if you owe taxes you setup a bullshit payment plan and you're fine. The licensing requirements keep the industry legit and MED has proven to be an ADVOCATE for the small shops in town. Sure they love the revenue from the big guys but from the inspectors to the investigators - they're rooting for the basement warrior turned legit.
 
LocalGrowGuy

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Licensing and bureaucracy is the only way Colorado doesn't end up with DEA thugs torching and destroying our businesses unlike what the "industry" in CA has experienced because of lack of regulation. The MED runs a simple CBG w/ FBI fingerprint screening and they check to make sure you don't owe state taxes - how difficult is that for someone to pass? Even if you owe taxes you setup a bullshit payment plan and you're fine. The licensing requirements keep the industry legit and MED has proven to be an ADVOCATE for the small shops in town. Sure they love the revenue from the big guys but from the inspectors to the investigators - they're rooting for the basement warrior turned legit.
You're a bit early, but I still loled
April fools day
 
Dr.Boots

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Your application will be reported to your local police, who will in turn investigate you for cultivation. If you are growing, you better be sure you are compliant...

In CO, MED is the police; there's little difference. Local police don't investigate illegal cultivation except incidentally-- that's MED's job. And there is no evidence they will investigate you for applying for an MED badge-- that's unfounded speculation.
 
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In CO, the cops (and other agencies) have access to anyone who has a badge ,a MMJ card or is a CO Caregiver. I.E. If they pull you over while driving and suspect your are drunk or high they can pull up a database to see if you have a MMJ card/badge and if you are a CO Caregiver. And it's just not if you are driving, ,,,,if they use the "probable cause" tactic they can run your name and check your stats out too. The CO MJ and MMJ laws offer zero privacy or protection which is a compete violation of the bullshit HIPPA laws.
 
LocalGrowGuy

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In CO, MED is the police; there's little difference. Local police don't investigate illegal cultivation except incidentally-- that's MED's job. And there is no evidence they will investigate you for applying for an MED badge-- that's unfounded speculation.
Bullshit. Cops do knock and talks all the time up and down the front range. Are you suggesting the MMED is checking caregivers and plant counts?
 

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