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Kelp during flowering...good or bad?

Discussion in 'Nutrients and Fertilizers' started by mastagrowa, Feb 21, 2014.

  1. Just got a second hand Vortex and i've been using the Progress Earth 4 part tea formula which includes 2 tablespoons/30ml of their "Earth Kelp" shit for every five gallons of tea.

    My ladies look good after a couple weeks of using the tea but I am noticing the leaf stems are extra long. Strange.

    I read somewhere that too much kelp reduces flower mass.

    Anyone?
     
  2. caregiverken

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    Shit I hope not! :(
    I'm subbed to find out
     
  3. caregiverken

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    I have been useing kelp powder in all my flower teas for a while Check out my ewok and ARC grow in the outdoor section I used lots of kelp teas on those
     
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  4. What's your dosage per gal?
     
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    About a tablespoon (it's powder) makes the water darker than coffee
     
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    I hear the micro bennies feed on the kelp
     
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  7. fungus like the tricoderma in coco love kelp


    So Im guessing kelp toxicity can decrease yield but I'm not familiar with what that looks like
     
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  8. I picked up some liquid seaweed and just fed my first dose, 1TBS in 2 gallons. I'm on my first week of flower, but plants have pre-flowered.
     
  9. caregiverken

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    I friend in the commercial nursery business gave me a 40lb bag of kelp powder a few years ago.
    ive used like 20 lbs of it so far,,,lol
    When I frist got it, I poured some of the powder on the lawn to see if it would burn it...
    Didn't hurt it a bit.

    So, No one can confirm smaller yields for too much kelp?

    I think a read a post by @Capulator saying something about using less K on coookies?
     
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  10. caregiverken

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    I used a lot of kelp growing these
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  11. mmm yea I'm glad I picked some up!
     
  12. So nice you did good with those...how did the insides look were they the same shade of green of outside or a few shades lighter?

    Just a guess but I'm thinking the scenarios in which ther is k or kelp toxicity it was an imbalance ......too much k only because there wasn't enough root space or not enough air exchange and light or. There's alesy the imbalance in other nutrients necessary to break down that kelp or fungus to eat the kelp
     
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    Those buds were so fat and dense, there were really pale green parts deep inside.
    what you say makes sense...I dont know what To much K looks [email protected] could probably tell us though
     
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  14. It's used ALLOT in the Nectar For the Gods line, ascophyllum nodosum to be exact and it's in at least 2 bottles that I know of, one being the Bloom Kaos which kicks them into flower quicker and promotes tighter nodes. That being said, too much of anything can be harmful.... The key is finding the right balance of nutrients.
     
  15. Well the high ph it can create can lockout the lil bit of N that's needed in the end
     
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  16. It's tough I Like too be a lil more green but not too dark green when I cut down cuz in my cure I lose acouple shades of green it's a huge observational balanceing act abd one that changes constantly cuz each plant is so unique


    Now that I heard myself say that k toxicity can appear Like a too dark of green in fan leaves
     
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  17. subbed to find out the answer, good question op!
     
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  18. caregiverken

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    I wanted to add something...

    Seagreen has alot of K...i think its from kelp.
    I use Seagreen all the time. Praticly every watering.
    Im about to Foliar with Caps and Seagreen as soon as it settles

    Seagreen is my base nute :)
     
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  19. What up Ken, I picked up some seagreen and have started to use it. Do you use it all through veg and flower and how much a gallon do you add?
     
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    The bottle says .5 to 2 ml per gal...i just put about a half teaspoon.. :) Thats Probably more than necessary..
    But like I said, it my base nute. :)