~ killer queen redux - an unexpected endowment ~

Discussion in 'Mosca Seeds' started by erudite, Mar 20, 2011.

  1. erudite

    erudite New Farmer

    I've got 4 Sun Hut Silver tents, here's a quick run down of the equipment I've got in them.

    Sun Hut XXL (4.75' x 9' x 7')
    2 - Magnum XXXL 6" hoods
    2 - Hydrofarm magnetic 1kw HPS ballasts powering Hortilux Super HPS bulbs
    3 - 6" inline fans... 2 are scrubbing and exhausting out of the tent, the other is exhausting the lights from the hoods pulling air from outside of the tent

    (2) Sun Hut XL's (4.5' x 4.5' x 7')
    Each tent has identical equipment
    Hydrofarm Radiant 6" hoods
    Hydrofarm magnetic 600w HPS ballasts powering Hortilux Super HPS bulbs
    6" inline fan scrubbing, going through the hood and exhausting out of the tent

    Sun Hut LG (3' x 4.5' x 7')
    4 bulb HO-T5 light
    6" inline fan scrubbing the space, hooked to a fan controller
  2. erudite

    erudite New Farmer

    I made all the soil I'm currently using in late summer/early fall. I over-complicated the hell out of it but I think that I've ended up with a more consistent soil that's giving me far less problems than my previous mix that I ended up having pH/calcium availability issues with.

    I started off making my compost mix portion in mid summer. Its not ideal and I know there's a few people that are going to say that "its easier and cheaper to do it yourself"... that requires foresight of the need and the time to make the compost, frankly I had neither but was more than glad to pay for some quality bagged products.
    In 8-10 (could have been as high as 12.... terrible memory) 35 gallon totes I mixed up a few storebought compost items. Each tub recieved a deposit of:

    (2) 40lb bags of Green Thumb mushroom compost
    25lb bag of earthworm castings.... good shit, as good as it gets without coming out of your own bin
    1.5 cubic feet Monrovia Plant Compost
    1.5 cubic feet Monrovia Soil Amendment
    4lb bag of Espoma Bio-Tone Starter+ 4-3-3 (Hydrolyzed Feather Meal, Pasteurized Poultry Manure, Cocoa Meal, Bone Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Greensand, Humates, Sulfate of Potash, and
    Sulfate of Potash Magnesia)


    I've used a wide range of Monrovia products for a couple of years now in the veggie garden, all quality and mostly organic... not 100% sure what's in their soil amendment but I think its got some oscomote in it, not organic but it works well enough for me to allow it into the "grey area". I've tried to be 100% organic in the past, have had a few issues with the soil I mix myself until this new batch.

    I let this sit for at least a month, feel it was closer to 6 weeks though. It came out smelling fucking great and it had a pretty good consistency considering its moisture retention properties.

    Given that I'm growing many strains, a lot of blueberry crosses with a few sativa leaning crosses that eat on the light side of things I saw the need for many different soils. I had previous experience working with ProMix BX and Sunshine #4 and realized they'd be perfect in helping me achieve the differences I needed. The SS4 is what I used for the hotter mixes, the heavier feeders also tend to need better moisture retention as they drink more. I used the BX in the lighter feeders, if it was available at my nursery I woulda used the shit that has yucca in it instead.
    The measurements given are how much I mixed together at one time, any more and you're working too damn hard to mix it evenly.

    Seed Starter - I start seedlings and clones in this
    5 gallons ProMix BX
    1 gallon EWC
    1/2 gallon chunky #4 perlite
    1/3 cup dolomite lime
    1/4 cup Espoma Bio-Tone Starter+ 4-3-3 (Hydrolyzed Feather Meal, Pasteurized Poultry Manure, Cocoa Meal, Bone Meal, Alfalfa Meal, Greensand, Humates, Sulfate of Potash, and
    Sulfate of Potash Magnesia)


    Mid-Late Veg Mix - I usually do 2-3 transplants after the seed starter mix, I only use this in veg
    3 gallons compost mix
    5 gallons ProMix BX
    1 gallon chunky #4 perlite
    1.5 cup dolomite lime
    1.75 cup Monrovia 3-6-4 (feather meal, bone meal, blood meal, potash of magnesia, kelp meal and alfalfa meal)
    1 cup Dr. Earth's Kelp .6-.5-2.5
    1 cup Espoma Jersey Green Sand 0-0-.1
    1/2 cup Sunleaves Peruvian Seabird Guano 10-10-2


    Normal Feeder Mix - has Sunshine Mix #4
    5 gallons compost mix
    5 gallons Sunshine Mix #4
    2 gallons bricked GH coir
    1 gallon chunky #4 perlite
    1.5 cups dolomite lime
    2 cups Monrovia 5-6-6 (feather meal, bone meal, blood meal, potash of magnesia, kelp meal and alfalfa meal)
    1 cup Dr. Earth's Kelp .6-.5-2.5
    1 cup Espoma Jersey Green Sand 0-0-.1
    1/2 cup Sunleaves Peruvian Seabird Guano 10-10-2


    Light Feeder Mix - has ProMix BX
    5 gallons compost mix
    5 gallons ProMix BX
    2 gallons bricked GH coir
    1 gallon chunky #4 perlite
    1.5 cups dolomite lime
    1.75 cups Monrovia 3-6-4 (feather meal, bone meal, blood meal, potash of magnesia, kelp meal and alfalfa meal)
    1 cup Dr. Earth's Kelp .6-.5-2.5
    1 cup Espoma Jersey Green Sand 0-0-.1
    1/2 cup Sunleaves Peruvian Seabird Guano 10-10-2


    Guano - No Coir - has mix of BX and SS4
    5 gallons compost mix
    3 gallons Sunshine Mix #4
    2 gallons Promix BX
    1 gallon chunky #3 perlite
    1/3 cup Sunleaves Mexican Bat Guano 10-2-1
    1/3 cup Sunleaves Peruvian Seabird Guano 10-10-2
    1/3 cup Sunleaves Jamaican Bat Guano 1-10-.2
    1/3 cup Sunleaves Indonesian Guano .5-12-.2
    1.5 cups dolomite lime
    1 cup Dr. Earth's Kelp .6-.5-2.5
    1 cup Espoma Jersey Green Sand 0-0-.1


    Earth Juice Mix - has ProMix BX / No Coir - to be used in conjunction with a bottled organic fert/regular AACT diet
    5 gallons compost mix
    5 gallons Promix BX
    1 gallon chunky #3 perlite
    3/4 cup FoxFarm Tomato & Vegetable 7-4-5 (feather meal, bone meal, fish meal, fish bone meal, sulphate of potash of magnesia, alfalfa meal, blood meal, bat guano, kelp meal and gypsum)
    3/4 cup FoxFarm Fruit & Flower 5-8-4 (feather meal, bone meal, hydrolyzed fish, fish meal, fish bone meal, sulphate of potash of magnesia, alfalfa meal, blood meal, bat guano, rock phosphate and gypsum)
    1.5 cups dolomite lime
    1 cup Espoma Jersey Green Sand 0-0-.1


    After mixing I added Espoma Garden Gypsum @ .75 cups/~15-20 gallons of medium and watered with a nice EWC/molasses tea.

    I let the mix sit and was not happy with how much water it retained, too much mushroom compost me thinks...... In lieu of that issue I have been mixing what comes out of my tubs at a 3:1 ratio with ProMix BX before planting. My plants are happy so I will likely continue cutting my tubs with the BX and supplement the nutrients lost with top dressings of EWC/guano/kelp after the stretch stops. Just to make sure its clear:

    I HAVE BEEN CUTTING WHAT IS IN MY TUBS WITH PROMIX BX AT A 3:1 RATIO DUE TO MOISTURE RETENTION ISSUES
  3. erudite

    erudite New Farmer

    I've been using almost all of the Earth Juice line with a bit of Botanicare's Silica Blast here and there. I basically feed the "Normal" dose of everything in the line as needed. I feed the normal dose of catalyst and microblast in between feedings. This is what I've got at my disposal at the moment as far as bottled nutes go...

    Earth Juice Grow 2-1-1
    Earth Juive Bloom 0-3-1
    Earth Juice Microblast
    Earth Juice Catalyst
    Earth Juice Meta-K 0-0-4
    Earth Juice Hi-Brix Molasses 0-0-3
    Botanicare Silica Blast

    I've got some liquid seaweed and fish as well but only use the kelp as a foliar here and there, fish just sits there..... if I got my hand on a quart of some neptunes fish/seaweed I'd be more likely to use them once in a while.

    Once I run out of the EJ grow/bloom I am going to be switching to the GO line for my macro/micronutrient needs. I will likely still keep using the EJ Catalyst, Hi-Brix and Meta-K.

    I thought it was worth mentioning that I also have tons of all of the Sunleave's guanos and EWC so I might top dress with that and use the EJ line as a constant nutrient stream/a pH down :D
  4. erudite

    erudite New Farmer

    I wish I would have started this earlier so I could have some observations peppered in with the pics. If you'd like more details on what was going on or descriptions of the plants check out my main journal or just ask here.

    Day 4 of 12/12
    KQ 1

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  5. erudite

    erudite New Farmer

    Day 14 of 12/12

    KQ 1 (had to trim a branch that broke when I supercropped them, it never healed properly)
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    erudite New Farmer

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  8. erudite

    erudite New Farmer

    Day 37 of 12/12

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  9. erudite

    erudite New Farmer

    Day 43 of 12/12

    KQ1
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  10. erudite

    erudite New Farmer

    These are my mothers before I chopped them up into clones.

    I will be running clones of each of the Killer Queens in the 4x8 next round, minimal veg time so it will be entirely for smoke testing purposes. It will also be my first run with KQ2, I had to cull it due to space issues this round.

    KQ1
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    A flower update is coming tomorrow night, things are filling out very nicely... getting close to chop for KQ1 :D
  11. xX Kid Twist Xx

    xX Kid Twist Xx Premium Farmer

    very nice bro. im liking kq1 and 4 the best. 1 is looking more on the cindy side yeild looks to be good. and 4 is short like the airborne g13 but the buds seem to be forming like a 50/50 g13/cindy mix. 3 looks to take after the g13 the most. what kidna smells are you getting from her?
  12. erudite

    erudite New Farmer

    bro, you got it nailed.

    1 is certainly cindy leaning... fruity as FUCK and is gonna yield well, the rate of growth is very nice on this plant. looking to harvest at 56ish days to get something that can be racy if I "over-indulge" :D

    3 is nutty smelling, I agree g13 leaning. am going to wait until 66 or so to harvest it, want it to lock me down a bit.

    4 is slightly fruity, kinda hashy as well... I would agree with the 50/50 call on that one. planning on around day 60 with this, would like to retain the head from the cindy but ensure duration isn't an issue.

    2 seems to be a very good representation of the two mixed together, it might yield the best looking at my notes on it. The plant I had at the start of this round was about a week and a half - two weeks behind everything else due to cloning issues, all should be fixed now :D
  13. Tex

    Tex Premium Farmer

    :rock

    Great log and grow bro..
  14. erudite

    erudite New Farmer

    thanks man, things have come together very nicely. Props go to baccas for making the seeds!

    Everything has been on a just water diet since the last update. Things are yellowing and more importantly swelling nicely, excited to be coming up on this harvest. I am going to be taking most of the big fans off over the next few days to give some more light to my lowers and to expedite the trimming process. I'll update the remaining plants as they come down.

    I tossed an extra c99 BX1 plant into flower a couple of days ago, got a cravin for some of these flavors I can't get at quite yet.

    The pictures were taken on 3/28, day 55 of 12/12.

    KQ1
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  15. erudite

    erudite New Farmer

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  17. xX Kid Twist Xx

    xX Kid Twist Xx Premium Farmer

    yeah number one does look to be quite the yeilder and you say its a good 50/50 mix sounds like a winner for sure. it does look like it could go a bit longer judging by the hairs on her. could just be the pictures. my fruit punch pheno looks like it can go longer then 52 days but Ive taken her all the way to 65 and while she does seem to harden up quite a bit the smoke is still the same but kinda nerfs the 1st 20 mins. not really taking away from the raciness just kinda gets you high right away.

    good job on the grow man this thread is laid out great
  18. erudite

    erudite New Farmer

    This is my c99 leaning plant, my ~50/50s are 2 and 4. I went by the trichs, around 10 clear, 70-80 cloudy, 10-20 amber. I will see how I like the smoke at 59, if it needs more time I'd think 3-5 more would be it.

    I plan on taking down 4 on Tuesday evening, I'm starting to see a decent amount of amber in the mid section of the plant right now.

    3 is looking in line for the day 66-69 harvest I pegged it at. Its still stacking calyxes and when they're ROCK HARD like they are I'll let this one finish completely no matter how impossible accomplishing shit will be.... seriously I have never grown nugs this solid before.
  19. xX Kid Twist Xx

    xX Kid Twist Xx Premium Farmer

    yeah bro you killed it with these. after people see this thread im sure the rest them beans up there will sell out. again nice grow bro.
  20. blazer

    blazer Well-Known Farmer

    Hey bro just want to give you props those ladies look stellar got some killer haze on the way from pisces hopefully they make me proud as your babies are
    Peace blazer out:sign0005: