New to DSLR ... any pointers?

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Hey farmers whats up? I just picked up a Cannon Rebel EOS 350D XT camera for dirt cheap. ($50) used. Got it in an estate sale. Came with a Rebel S 35mm also. They have interchangeable lens' etc. Its only 8MB but has a ton of options, almost too many for me to decipher. Got a couple of questions. Firts what setting for white blance do you guys use for shooting under HPS, and ISO settings for shooting in the dark? This is all new to me so any pointers or advise would be helpful. Thanks in advance.
 
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The best pointer I can give you is to pickup Understanding Exposure (http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Exposure-Photographs-Digital-Updated/dp/0817463003). If you read it, truly understand it, and practice, you'll be taking great photographs in no time.

EDIT: White Balance, use a white card setting. That is set a custom white balance usig your camera by holding a white piece of paper near the HPS light and taking your measurement from there. This will make it seem like normal light.

As far as ISO, you need to understand the ISO -> Aperture -> Shutter tradeoff. In low light, I crank the ISO to 6400+ but that is because I have a full frame camera. Otherwise, I would think that camera maxes out at 1600 with considerable noise.
 
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The best pointer I can give you is to pickup Understanding Exposure (http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Exposure-Photographs-Digital-Updated/dp/0817463003). If you read it, truly understand it, and practice, you'll be taking great photographs in no time.

EDIT: White Balance, use a white card setting. That is set a custom white balance usig your camera by holding a white piece of paper near the HPS light and taking your measurement from there. This will make it seem like normal light.

As far as ISO, you need to understand the ISO -> Aperture -> Shutter tradeoff. In low light, I crank the ISO to 6400+ but that is because I have a full frame camera. Otherwise, I would think that camera maxes out at 1600 with considerable noise.

Thanks bro. I will read this carefully. I want to graduate from using the pre-labeled settings on the camera and start doing some custom setting to really take some professional looking pics of my girls.
 
Seamaiden

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Since I only have the PDF for my Canon I haven't yet messed around with white balance on the camera. I use UFRaw or GIMP with the RAW handling installed, and adjust the white balance on the computer. Sometimes it looks good, other times, not so much.

I really wish to hell we had the hard copy manual somewhere. It's a good camera, Mr. GC, but at 8MP it's a little lacking once you start to blow up the photographs. We bought ours in '04.
 
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Since I only have the PDF for my Canon I haven't yet messed around with white balance on the camera. I use UFRaw or GIMP with the RAW handling installed, and adjust the white balance on the computer. Sometimes it looks good, other times, not so much.

I really wish to hell we had the hard copy manual somewhere. It's a good camera, Mr. GC, but at 8MP it's a little lacking once you start to blow up the photographs. We bought ours in '04.

Check this link out. This is for my camera but I am sure the site has detailed info about yours as well. I ound much more here then in the instruction manual. Hope this helps. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos350d/

I only plan on using this camera to post pics on here anyway lol so I hope the 8MP is good enough for that. Going to get a good macro lens for close ups.
 
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Yes, the 8mp is fine for this kind of posting. But we also print some of our photographs onto 11"x17" stock and for those it can be problematic as I find a lot of artifacts printed out.

There's a neat trick where you can use the standard 55mm lens flipped around and help up against the body of the camera that gives you macro-photography, just not very good macrophotographs. Lemme see if I can find one to show you that I did a few years ago. Nope, no luck, can't remember if I still have them or what.
 
GanjaGardener

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1) Get your manual settings down if you want to go to the next level. Otherwise, you're the framer and the camera is acting as the photographer.
2) White balance- outdoors-be particularly vigilant during mornings and evenings. the CT is all over the place. indoors -If you've got mixed light sources, (ie HPS and MH) move the white card around and keep balancing until you've got the look that is closest to what you are eyeballing. Turn off either- use one CT source.
3) WTF Orange - I know the 'how' part- that's easy, but I'm still trying to figure out the 'why'. Why is the telltale orange tint is so popular in indoor mj photography? Is there a CTO cult among mj grower/photogs that I'm unaware of? Please folks. WB to your HPS so we don't have to decipher the visuals. Remember, we're usually doing mostly representational here- not abstract expressionism. [/peeve]
4) ISO- the smaller the # the more resolution. The higher, the more grain/noise. for shooting static mj pics outdoors in full daylight or under grow room lights-- ISO @ 50 or 100- sometimes 200 if shooting cu's under canopy. Auto ISO will allow the camera to effect your other settings, (ie shutter speed/f-stop)

I was a lighting cameraman for most of my adult life, have a Betacam that cost $100K (when it was new several years ago) that's in storage and have been taking snapshots w/ a $100 PnS since I retired from La-Laland almost 6 years ago. lol :cool0041:
 
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To take good macro pictures you will also need a tri-pod and ball head, with some sort of quick release plate and a macro slider rail and also a hand held shutter remote and ring flash. An extension tube for your cameras macro lense is fun to play around with too.
 
aleYarok

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what everyone else says

get a nice macro lens 1:1
flash
and always shoot in RAW!!
 
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Yea learn to edit in Raw! I had no idea I needed a freaking macro focusing rail...this is what I got.......
 
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Thanks for the pointers everyone. Here are some pics I shot today of my homies rooster aka puff daddy. In oone of the pics I snapped it right before he got a deer fly out of mid-air.
 
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puufdaddy! lmao
Nice stop action- fast shutter, long lens, nice background compression. Damn good for someone working w/ a new camera.

1 pointer. You might try increasing your depth of field a tad, particularly w/ a fairly difficult shot- ie fast, unpredictable action. The fly is focused up pretty good but as you can see, p-d is a little soft. You need the fast shutter to freeze your subjects so I'd keep that setting and tweak the ISO up to allow you to close the aperture down which will increase yer dof - that'll give you more latitude to work with. Each time you double the ISO, you gain a stop- ie you can close down the f-stop 1 position if you raise the ISO from 50-100, 100-200, etc. Raising the ISO from 50 to 200 will allow you to stop down twice, from a 2.8 -> 5.6 for instance, which would increase your dof enough to hold focus on both yer cock and fly, (couldn't resist) in the frame that you've shown us.

Good work! You've got some natural ability.
 
Snowblind

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Yea that fly is a goner!
 
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def need to get a macro rail especially when using a 1x-5x macro...i love 5x its so crazy how trichs look under 5x, very difficult to focus without the rail tho so a def must have when doing crazy macro shots!
 
Snowblind

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The tripod, ballhead or whatever mount you use and the macro slider are as important as the camera and can cost more!
 
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Buy the best lenses you can afford. Take good care of them and they will outlast the body.
 
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U can also rent lens at a photo store use whenever .... rent on weekend get them for same price ..35.00
 
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Use a tripod, if outdoor toss a bean bag over the top also ...... & try using a delay on the picture your taking because it moves after u press the button. Most of the time the auto white balance works indoor but your better off getting a white balance cap that you can use outdoor. The white balance changes fast when the sun is coming up & setting.

If you use post processing like photoshop, read your colors in the white areas ( color sample tool in your pallet the eye dropper tool ). Lets say your yellow is off, it will be reading 10% in your white area this throws all colors off in your image, greens, blues ect .....Go into the curves pallet its c,m,y,k and choose y ( yellow channel ) and pull the mid tones down ( center of graph ) until it reads 3% in your white area for the yellow.

The red & blue should also be 3% in your white areas. Black 5% or your whites will have no detail or if your whites do not show black it means its washed out and all and all a bad pic because the black channel holds the details of the image. So you can fix any image by making sure the yellow, magenta, cyan read 3%. ( i do all my color work in c,m,y,k better control than r,g,b even though rgb is better quality. I work in c,m,y,k then convert into rgb before i save out ..... )

But ya the money is made in manual mode & with a real nice lens, not the kit lens most come with.

I could go way more in depth on color theory or more photoshop tips. I ran a drum scanner for a magazine house & started in the beta version of photoshop in the mid 90's.
 
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Seamaiden

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Damn! And here I was trained to do ALL of it the old school way (by hand, with Exacto knives and amber and ruby liths) because, according to my prof at the time, "These newfangled computers will NEVER be able to compete with hand-drawn graphics and color separations!"

Dumb shit.


In the meantime, I just discovered Amazon Warehouse. :o
 
SpiderK

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Damn! And here I was trained to do ALL of it the old school way (by hand, with Exacto knives and amber and ruby liths) because, according to my prof at the time, "These newfangled computers will NEVER be able to compete with hand-drawn graphics and color separations!"

Dumb shit.


In the meantime, I just discovered Amazon Warehouse. :eek:


awwww ya ...... I did that also " a stripper " rubylith, dark rooms .....we would burn 40 pages into one sheet of film in the vac frame ..... , i ran a hell drum scanner w/ 40 moves per color :confused: , then you needed proofs telling you if the color was off & it would be ........ , it took 40 guys & gals a week to knock out a 20 pager..... now one person can do this in a day or two on a mac .....

our largest drum scanner was our first film output machine. now they just go direct 2 plate & no need for color checks ect or its all digital .... sytex
 
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