No-till In A 1 Gallon Pot (lol)

[coloradoBTC]

hello farmers and welcome to this thread
in my enthusiasm to start no-till and my inability to follow directions, I have managed to fill a 1 gallon pot with clackmas coot in the bottom, and a mix of sphagum/compost/pumice above it
now I realize that this is nowhere close to the volume needed to create a proper food web
but we're doing this shit

this is a deathstar s1 that has been flipped to 12/12 for a few days now
already starting to see some warning signs, like twisted leaves
I hope this grow provides info to other farmers and welcome any suggestions (except repotting)​

 

[brazel]

hello farmers and welcome to this thread
in my enthusiasm to start no-till and my inability to follow directions, I have managed to fill a 1 gallon pot with clackmas coot in the bottom, and a mix of sphagum/compost/pumice above it
now I realize that this is nowhere close to the volume needed to create a proper food web
but we're doing this shit
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this is a deathstar s1 that has been flipped to 12/12 for a few days now
already starting to see some warning signs, like twisted leaves
I hope this grow provides info to other farmers and welcome any suggestions (except repotting)​

Why coot mix on the bottom and spm, compost, pumice on top?
Cheers

 

[coloradoBTC]

Why coot mix on the bottom and spm, compost, pumice on top?
Cheers

clackmas recipe is too hot for a young plant but perfect for a teen so you put it in the bottom up to the point that a seedling wont hit it.
the sph/compost/pumice is to provide homes for mycorhizhae and bacteria, that is what determines success in young plants, not nutrients

 

[brazel]

clackmas recipe is too hot for a young plant but perfect for a teen so you put it in the bottom up to the point that a seedling wont hit it.
the sph/compost/pumice is to provide homes for mycorhizhae and bacteria, that is what determines success in young plants, not nutrients

I don't know if I should say ok or correct you! What's your thoughts

 

[coloradoBTC]

http://bit.ly/2F0gYI8
this is the instructions I used
for some reason I was applying the subcool directions the coot recipe
thus I have an un-amended coot recipe in the top
Im a stoner

 

[brazel]

http://growingorganicinvalid.com/subcools-super-soil-improved#anchor8
this is the instructions I used
for some reason I was applying the subcool directions the coot recipe
thus I have an un-amended coot recipe in the top
Im a stoner

No worries, super soil would burn. Coots won't. Mycos can't provide what it don't have... that's nutrients

 

[coloradoBTC]

the 1/3 compost should feed the mycos right?

 

[brazel]

the 1/3 compost should feed the mycos right?

Your plant feeds the mycos, mycos feeds the plant.

 

[coloradoBTC]

what sort of cover crop would you recommend

 

[brazel]

what sort of cover crop would you recommend

White clover, any dynamic accumulator.

 

[Organikz]

Fennel, yarrow, neetles, alfalfa, chia, rye grass, wild lettuce. Anything besides squash. Squash is a nitrogen hog. Don't go heavy on rye either

 

[Organikz]

I'm going to tell you what happens in a container that size in no till. Your plant is going to hit a point where it's going to want to take massive amount of nutrients and take the fuck off. These nutrients won't be available...matter of fact your pot will be all roots. The plant will "gas" itself out meaning it will sacrifice its own nutrients to produce. You end up with a plant that yields little to nothing.

 

[coloradoBTC]

yup
but now the internet will have a record of it
plus we will have a contest to guess the yield :D

 

[Organikz]

yup
but now the internet will have a record of it
plus we will have a contest to guess the yield :D

Okay I just didn't want you to think your results is what we end up with. It will discourage you.

 

[coloradoBTC]

Okay I just didn't want you to think your results is what we end up with. It will discourage you.

those two pots in the back are filled with coots and happy healthy afghani x critical mass (green pot), deathstar(orange),
but Im going to upgrade the 1 gallon to 15 gallon geo pot after this "run"

 

[Organikz]

those two pots in the back are filled with coots and happy healthy afghani x critical mass (green pot), deathstar(orange),
but Im going to upgrade the 1 gallon to 15 gallon geo pot after this "run"

there you go bro. i just didn't want you to be a statistic. My first no till grow was done in 5g buckets and i almost left no till. That 15g will make you dance. I've run in 10g but it's not much to be had. 15g and up and you will produce.

In nature plant roots ride along the humus layer within the network of mycellium. mycellium can pass nutrients for miles. we look at our pots and think that's how roots grow...nope

 

[brazel]

Fennel, yarrow, neetles, alfalfa, chia, rye grass, wild lettuce. Anything besides squash. Squash is a nitrogen hog. Don't go heavy on rye either

Yarrow is one of my favorite flowers

 

[Organikz]

100g of soil. 3.5 week veg from dry beans...church...preach! Rehydrated kelp water makes them pray to jesus! Now today i feed coconut water to focus a good swell since that kelp meal water has helped assimilate so much sugar. I know @brazel is against these focused inputs but hey why not right...knock 2 weeks off of a 10 week strain...1 week off of an 8 week strain. I will back off after this...coconut water has a lot of potassium and magnesium...don't want to overdo it. I've also seen a cytokinin sensitivity...overloading a plant with cytokinin throws it out of wack

 

[GT21]

yup
but now the internet will have a record of it
plus we will have a contest to guess the yield :D

1 ounce

 

[brazel]

100g of soil. 3.5 week veg from dry beans...church...preach! Rehydrated kelp water makes them pray to jesus! Now today i feed coconut water to focus a good swell since that kelp meal water has helped assimilate so much sugar. I know @brazel is against these focused inputs but hey why not right...knock 2 weeks off of a 10 week strain...1 week off of an 8 week strain. I will back off after this...coconut water has a lot of potassium and magnesium...don't want to overdo it. I've also seen a cytokinin sensitivity...overloading a plant with cytokinin throws it out of wack

Love kelp! Coconut water I don't have a use for and you know I'm against using things I don't need. But i do recommend it! if I need I'll use it :)