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Krypto

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if you're in Colorado 14er holistics just brought out their sensi star clone. for seeds Ace, Cannabiogen or bodhi would fit the bill.
Those guys at 14er Boulder are great. I don't have anything Old Skool from them but I do have their Tahoe x Forum cut X star dog I got two females that are Polar Opposites but they both smell like kerosene drenched Fig Newtons. Love it!
 
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... On a side note I'm glad to see somebody starting to thread that deals with this very subject. We're not doing a whole lot of crosses these days but the ones that are in the works are very basic. Stardawg is going to be key to this breeding program. I'd also like to get some ATF some Island sweet skunk, the old school purples from the Bay Area oh, and the White Widow stuff like that.
 
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"Back in the 1980's, an Australian of Dutch parentage, went back to Holland from Australia to recover from heroin addiction. Part of his recovery was an idea he had to source and sell premium Cannabis genetics from all over the World. This idea came to fruition with a Government Grant for his rehabilitation from the Dutch Government to do so. This was the genesis of most modern seedbanks we see today. Neville is no longer on the scene, and SSSC was taken over by Ben Dronkers, and Sensi Seeds was formed, using Neville's genetics."

I worked in Saudi in the 80s used to spend a lot of time in the dam. I bought seeds from the SSSC. I had a phone # I would call from Cali when I wanted to order thru the mail.

I think I took this pic in 89.
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... On a side note I'm glad to see somebody starting to thread that deals with this very subject. We're not doing a whole lot of crosses these days but the ones that are in the works are very basic. Stardawg is going to be key to this breeding program. I'd also like to get some ATF some Island sweet skunk, the old school purples from the Bay Area oh, and the White Widow stuff like that.
that sounds awesome keep me in mind if yall do testers sounds dank
 
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"Back in the 1980's, an Australian of Dutch parentage, went back to Holland from Australia to recover from heroin addiction. Part of his recovery was an idea he had to source and sell premium Cannabis genetics from all over the World. This idea came to fruition with a Government Grant for his rehabilitation from the Dutch Government to do so. This was the genesis of most modern seedbanks we see today. Neville is no longer on the scene, and SSSC was taken over by Ben Dronkers, and Sensi Seeds was formed, using Neville's genetics."

I worked in Saudi in the 80s used to spend a lot of time in the dam. I bought seeds from the SSSC. I had a phone # I would call from Cali when I wanted to order thru the mail.

I think I took this pic in 89.
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thats awesome i wish i could have gone to Amsterdam when it was still Amsterdam grab up the whole catalog especial some of that black domina
 
Jmaes Mabley

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BOEL Breeding ??

Swami Organic Seeds is what you want.

Get the NL5 x Haze... And/Or Blue Orca Haze

From JamesBeanCompany

Coastal Seeds NL1 X Pacific Northwest Hashplant

Vashon Seeds.... Early Bird. Done 1st week Sept outside. Really good stuff. This is also known as M26 in Nevils Catalog.

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Should say M26/Early Bird, came from Super Sativa Seed Club, vs Nevils Seed Bank.

Another nice pure Landrace INDICA is the

Underground Seeds Collective

Pre Soviet IBL Kandahar. Afghani Black. Really good stuff for hash making. Stout plants of the highest order.

Sannies often has this, and is the only place Ive found that sends to USA.
Really nice, Compact, Stinky, Good Yield, Early, of course.

Its a Kush x Early Skunk, that's now been bred in the PNW for decades, and is also very mold, mildew, and cold resistant. Originally came from Holland, and was in Nevils original seed catalog, known as M26.

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Super Sativa Seed Club - Early Bird

M26
An early Dutch cold-resistant strain. Inbreed for three generations. Breeding plants were selected for early maturation and quality of the high. Some individuals will have purple seed bracts. Most of the plants are very resinous. The yield varies from plant to plant. Harvest first/second week of September.

Also I recommend Presoaking the seeds in a glass of Distilled water ect, as I found the seeds shells Very Tough, and were a bit slower to take on water, germinate, but I got 13 out of 14 up. Sadly, my partner and I had to part ways, so they all got trashed.
 
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Should say M26/Early Bird, came from Super Sativa Seed Club, vs Nevils Seed Bank.

Another nice pure Landrace INDICA is the

Underground Seeds Collective

Pre Soviet IBL Kandahar. Afghani Black. Really good stuff for hash making. Stout plants of the highest order.

Sannies often has this, and is the only place Ive found that sends to USA.



Nice find! I need to check them out.

Got pointed in the direction of * Seed Heaven dot com * by a trusted buddy, there’s some great stuff too, for extremely reasonable prices. Some pure Afghan lines, Pakistani lines, old Legends Ultimate Indica f2s, and tons of other oldies also.
 
Jmaes Mabley

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Where is everyone???:D:D:D. No updates??

Ive found some more good shit. :love2::love2::love2:. Real Good, and very rare, and haven't been available to the public long.

But this "IS" the real deal shit, and is well known in Nor Cal, and has been for decades.

The Original Uncle Festers IBL 1969 Sk18...Sk1.... But its out of stock, and wont be available until next year.

The Nature Farm Genetics has it. It IS the RKS. No, Ifs, Ands, or Buts. This is the real hells angles shit from the 60s. From Uncle Fester. The original UF, not the 1 that wrote the books, as I "Mistakenly" thought.

RKS Phenos are 1 in 5. 20%.

Theres also Cheese phenos. Garlic, There are several phenos.

Many of the phenos also have double serrated leaves which is considered indicative of a real afghani, and potent weed. Not all phenos have this trait. All are potent. And REEK.

But this is the real stuff from the 60s IBL, from Uncle Fester, who was a college professor in the early 60s, and turned Hells Angel in the mid late 60s and is not here anymore, but his genetics have been passed on to his Nephew, MASTER THAI, and a few other people.

I don't know the politics of it, but the Nor Cal community is mad at MT for not keeping his word about the strain. I believe MT isn't releasing it in pure form like he said he would, so 1 person that also has the real deal genetics IS releasing it, as he is also getting older, and wants the genetics to get out, and not be hoarded, and people getting ripped off. He, and the Nor Cal community wanted to let MT release it, as he said he would, but he aint, so someone else is.
http://thenaturefarm.com/

Check out the double tooth serrations on most of the leaf fingers. They also have some serrations that are double serrated, and some not, on the same leaf finger.

The Nature Farmer also has some crosses with the RKS.

Oriignal IS IBL. But it has several Phenos.

I was lucky and got the last 2 packs


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1969 Skunk#18 IBL Open Pollination- Original Skunk#1

2/3 Sativa 1/3 Indica

These are Original Skunk#1 line derived from 1969 stock via Inbred line, passed to Thai after his uncles passing In Eureka, CA. Pre Skunkman Skunk#1. And also go by a few other handles, Such as Uncle Festers Skunk#18 IBL(from the keeper), Professor Beatnik Skunk#18 IBL, Hells Angels Skunk, Cali Skunk, we choose one truer to form being 69′ Skunk#18 IBL which is when these Skunk seeds were said to be derived from.

Number 5 and number 7 female are the RKS leaners from our open pollination run and will be hunted down further, they are included in this open pollination release. Id say the RKS pops up in 20% of the expression. The number 20 male was dead on Match to the 5 female so something to keep in mind very animal musk scented with good acrid chemical touches. Number 5 female was tops in the true bouquet and super musky acrid chemical eye and nose burning skunk musk funk, dead on, and then theres the other great males were present. Extremely pungent onion chemical fuel male Number 20, and the frostiest sativa dominant number 8 had the Cheese musk heavy as well on a totally different build highly on 7 female but more animal musk on the aged cheese funk.

Number 2 is raw white onion chemical and the dankest rich soil humus as rich as any ground coffee but not coffee. Stout hybrid 50/50 look. Has was i call “Onion” tail leaf. Early on she is pure raw white onion chemical. Very acrid and then it evens out by finish into a wonderful bouquet. Heavily double serrated individual. Very quality plant with extremely thick cola formations. A good 10-11 week flower. Yield is high. Calyx to leaf ratio is low. Node spacing is tight.

Number 5 Female Afghani Dominant heavy “stretch” monocola look. Old Musky acrid chemical eye and nose burning skunk musk funk. Elongated Claw reaching leaf, golfball ghani stature and very Acrid. Purple leaf and darker Skunk look. Half Double Serrated type individual. Yield is high. Calyx to leaf ratio was average compared to the other phenos. Node spacing is average.

Number 7 female. Purer mexi sativa expression. “Chemical Spray” dominant. She is pure burning acrid chemical strong as Trinity in her chemical burn and it doesnt let up. Stomach churn, nose and eyes burn. They have true linger and permeating quality and its inside the plants grease, not just the flower scent. Full plant double serrations. A good 12 week plus flower with early Mexi scents heavy. Elmers glue trichome, extreme calyx and very tight dense build. Yield is above average. Calyx to leaf ratio is low. Node spacing is average.

Number 9 female is colgate trash juice, damn near rotten scope mouthwash. Stout hybrid 50/50 look. Green Acrid Chemical astringent with a touch of rotten rubber. Not pleasant stomach churn quality. A good 12 week flower. Yield is above average. Calyx to leaf ratio is low. Node spacing is average.

Number 10 female is brand new vinyl, clear bouncie ball rubber and pure chemical terpenes. Sativa, Colombian dominant Mexi extreme Calyx stack Pheno. Extreme dense and caked with pure goop. Fully double serrated individual. Yield is above average. Calyx to leaf ratio is low. Node spacing is tight for her 12 week flower.

Number 11 Female, and Number 14, are on the cheese path and each is highly acrid chemical on top of that funk.

11 being that yellow auto interior foam insulation, dead on and super tasty, if you like those sweet chemical noses. Also huge football buds. The plant was extreme thin leaf double serrated sativa. Of all the females she was the biggest throw down, least tight nug structure but still absolutely dripping and a huge kief producer. Extreme coloration. By finish she was that same profile auto interior foam, with an added black hash burn finish extremely reminiscent of the 89′ Uk Cheese just more chemical oriented. Calyx to leaf ratio extremely low. Node spacing average.

Number 14 being the truly gamey animal chemical cheese funk. Stout hybrid look and one of the frostiest of the group And thats saying something. Good classic noses to this gal at points where astringent bleaches, to onion chem spray, and finishing on the final profile once dry. A good 12 week plus flower. Calyx to leaf ratio is quite low. Node spacing is average.



These are pre release. Keepers selected from a 4 pack seed run and repopulated. Felt this is something needed doing with the current focus on Skunk1 genetic but also the Fact of the originator of these seeds ripping folks off and not keeping his word to many members in our community for no reason whatsoever, especially when his genetic selection is solid.

He is Master Thai Organic Seed garden and our open pollination recreation was never to harm but rather to preserve the experience for everyone. This is his uncles line, preserved via seed stock and kept mother for us to enjoy and thats what i intend for all, not to rip anyone off like where these originate. Like i always say, we let the genetic speak.

So there is a few underlying circumstances that have lead me to give you the same shot that I have for Magic. The Main is because it is what the genetic and the plant derserves and so do you.

So Please, ENJOY!

The Nature Farmer

NEXT UP.

Super Sativa Seed Club Sk#1 Hybrids, with Skreddy Hash Plant?????????? Maybe add some Chemdog 91???? Chemdog's Sister????:D:D:love2::love2::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:

Dominion Seeds Company.

Dominion Seed Company - Granny Skunk

Virginia Beach Afghani X (Skelly Hashplant X SSSC Skunk 1) Many think the VA Afghani is from the 90s, and is now Herojuana. Or HOG, which supposedly stands for Herojuana Original Genetics.

Flower Cycle: 56-65 days

13 regular seeds per pack



Morphology- Produces very short tight noded bushes with very strong vertically dominant branching that grow ever so laterally opening of the plants just right. Very heavy thick resinous big colas with chunky buds all the way down the branch. Smells range from Pine tar opium, coffee bean skunk pine, pine eucalyptus/sour apple hash.

How Does It Smoke-Thick hashy smoke that has a very narcotic head and body but enough sativa to make the mind active yet unable to think clearly. Robotripesque type high.

Growing Notes- Grow larger sized bushes, plants only stretch .75:1 to 1:1 , stripping the inner most nodes and lower shaded areas will help you to stack on a lot of weight up top. Some phenos show light sensitivity issues with the lights too bright. I found starting bloom around 500-600 umol m2 and then gradually working up to 800-900 umol m2 worked the best.

Yield- Medium High to Heavy

Pest Resistance-8/10

Mildew Resistance-8/10

Stress Resistance Notes-No hermaphroditic traits noted thru stress testing


Dominion Seed Company - Dominion Skunk

(Skunk VA Chemdog X SSSC Skunk 1) X (Skelly Hashplant X SSSC Skunk 1)

Flower Cycle: 58-66 days

13 regular seeds per pack

Morphology- Two phenotypes appear structurally. One tighter noded that is more indicative of the hashplant skunk and one that is a bit more stretched out, more like the Chemdog Skunk mother. Both tend to branch more vertically than laterally. Both produce very funky skunky fuel acrid buds with the tighter phenos yielding a bit more.

How Does It Smoke-A bit of a speedball effect at first then mellows into a very stony narcotic feeling. It slows and clouds the mind. Induces giddy smiles and pure bliss then tends to cause the munchies.

Growing Notes-On the tighter noded pheno I extra veg time is recommended to take advantage of the yield capabilities. On the more nodey pheno, start training earlier in veg. Train a main cola with a nice canopy below the main apex about 6-8" by super cropping.

Yield-medium high - heavy

Pest Resistance-8/10

Mildew Resistance-7/10

Stress Resistance Notes- No hermaphroditic traits from over watering and under watering. During the light leak test most phenos did not exhibit herm traits and others held tight until 5 days prior to harvest.

Some light herm traits were seen if heavily overfed.





Dominion Seed Company - Sis Skunk

Chemdog Sister X (Skelly Hashplant X SSSC Skunk 1)

Flower Cycle: 54-65 days

13 regular seeds per pack



Morphology- Plants grow the same structure as the Chemdog sister mother, but stronger branches in a nice bushy but not too tight shape. The stretch is 1:1 to 1.5:1 ratio in flower. Sis Skunk plants form nice sized colas and nice spear head type flowers down the branches. The smells are rotten skunky garlic body odor like the mom and the occasional sour chem or starburst chem pheno. Mostly the acrid nasty phenotypes show. Very suitable for outdoor and greenhouse growing. Plants proved to be highly resistant to mites,powdery mildew and also to bud rot. Plants in the northern California region finished September 26th to October 7th depending on orientation. Southern Oregon reported October 7th-16th. Bangor Maine reported October 10th.

How Does It Smoke- Stony as can be, cloudy mind and narcotic body. Great for sleep and not accomplishing anything but rest. Munchies on the couch type herb.

Growing Notes-Single Cola or multi head bush, stripping the lower third prior to inducing flower will help the plant to stack colas more. No abnormal feeding requirements where noted in testing indoors. Outdoor feeding requirements change to a much heavier regimen in order to keep up with hungrier plants.

Yield- medium to high

Pest Resistance- 7/10

Mold Resistance- 7/10

Stress Resistance Notes-Passed all stress tests however a trait of the mother would show up in 50% of phenos where it will try to push out some herm flowers at ripening. However the more exceptional phenotypes showed no signs of this trait.




Golden Coast Genetics - BOEL Skunk X Johnny D's Cambodian Thai


Golden Coast Genetics - BOEL Skunk X [Johnny D's (Cambodian Thai)]
 
Krypto

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Oh Yeah! we got AFGHANCITRAL... call it ap-PAK fa showt.lol
Got 4 f1's left...some s1's...and will be taking those out to F,3-4? After finding a good stud, it'll be hit to the keeper female Blueberry Blast, Metal Dragon, and bigsurholybud f2 (Bodhi)

Should say M26/Early Bird, came from Super Sativa Seed Club, vs Nevils Seed Bank.

Another nice pure Landrace INDICA is the

Underground Seeds Collective

Pre Soviet IBL Kandahar. Afghani Black. Really good stuff for hash making. Stout plants of the highest order.

Sannies often has this, and is the only place Ive found that sends to USA.
 
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Hey James,

Do you know if MT still has that M21 Victor Baarns ?

Remember some years ago he popped up with those
 
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Maya: The Acapulco Gold mom is a personal favorite of mine. A very old tightly held cut from south San Diego, 70's era. Lemon/lime earthy/musk flavors that comes out strong in the smoke/extracts - extremely potent. The plant grows like a vine and needs extreme support for the huge flowers that slowly develop and continue stretching several weeks into flower and finish in 12+ weeks. The cross to TOVR will give a stronger structure and some phenotypes will finish in around 10 weeks. For the most AG dominant plants look for the extremely branchy plants with increasingly thinner leaves as the plant matures and a distinct lemon/lime aroma - high percentage lean towards the


TOVR is the one x velvet rush

The One: 1976 Highland Thai x 1971 Kandahar Afghani. A balanced yet potent F1 landrace hybrid from 1984. Floral/perfume, fruity, incense, skunky/musky flavors on large, dense, resinous flowers. The euphoric Thai/sativa affect hits first with the body numbing afghani affect settling in after. Strong stemmed structure with excellent branching and stretch. Finishes in 8-9 weeks but can be allowed to mature until ~12 weeks for a more potent 'body high'. I like 10-11 weeks personally.


The One x Velvet Rush (TOVR): Velvet Rush is a similar cross as T.O. From the same era - Highland Blue Thai x Afghani #1 - but is extremely Thai dominant in every respect. Having been crossed with TO you end up with extremely vigorous, fast growing plants with the dense, resinous flowers of TO and an enhanced thai/sativa affect from the VR. I selected 4 males for this open pollination and the intent was two-fold:


Velvet rush if I remember correctly comes from dj short back before blueberry.
He gave the seeds to coot in 1983ish
I could be wrong but I think I'm right
 
Organikz

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Word still curious about its background like who's the parents, I hit LD up to find out, I'd love an old school skunk! What's up with swami rdk?
Coot? I talk to chunk who talks to coot regularly and he did say he and gas weren't on good terms...shrugs
 
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