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Rso: Getting Consistant Dosage And Effects?

Discussion in 'Concentrates & Processing' started by DGP, Sep 5, 2016.

  1. DGP

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    Nine months ago I started using RSO. The medical outcome of using RSO every day has been pretty much miraculous. Thread here: https://www.thcfarmer.com/community...-fibromyalgia-parkensens-and-on-and-on.83906/

    When I first started I had to power through feeling a little goofy but never completely felt blown away. Not that I object to a little relaxing effects or otherwise but I have to work. Strong Sativas make me sleepy just like Indicas and I cant even tell the difference. Once I got used to the RSO I have not felt high or sedated from it til recently. Recently I noticed some varying effects and I am still not sure but sometimes every so often I get a much more noticable effect. I weigh my RSO out with a micro scale that is zeroed with an empty gelcap so I know how many milligrams I am dispensing.

    So, this morning I had my normal dose from a consistant batch I have had for some time and I get pretty blown away. The only difference is I had some peanut butter right after taking my meds and I don't normally do that. I am taking oil twice a day at about 150mg total per day.

    Here is what I am wondering:

    1. Does comsuming certain fat containing foods make the absorbtion and overall effect more pronounced? To get the full benefit of the oil should I be taking the RSO with fats?

    2. How do experienced oil users get consistant dosing and consistant outcomes?

    My RSO was made with 95 proof Everclear with Mango buds and I have a batch of Godberry bud that seems very similar. Both varities tested at about 18-19% THC before they were converted to RSO.

    Thanks All,

    DP
     
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  2. Natural

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    I mix mine with coconut oil at 50% by weight while it's still hot and sprinkle in organic soy lecithin to keep it homogenized. Fats help with absorption for sure
     
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  3. DGP

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    How much lecithin for a given batch size of oil? Or, is it non-critical?

    Thanks!

    DP
     
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  4. Natural

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    not very critical..it dissolves well..last time I used a good pinch for 30 grams of 50/50 rso/coconut oil..maybe an 1/8 tsp.
     
  5. Two.Bears

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    I'm glad RSO worked for you but personaly i will never make RSO AGAIN.

    I would go Rosin tech. Has 0 Solvents in it.

    Two problems with Rosin.

    1. Doesnt extract all the medicine.
    2. If the buds are too Dry you will burn the buds and not get any rosin.

    After getting the Rosin you can then put the Rosin chips in a jar and ocassionally extract the medicine left behind with with 99% isopropyl.

    This extract with isopropyl is often called QWISO or ISO hash oil.

    Here is tge vid that taught me to make QWISO



    The Rosin or QWISO can be used every way RSO can be used.

    Yoy can dab it, make edibles, mske tinctures.

    RSO can be dabbed but GOD IT TASTES NASTY because of the clorophyll fats lipids waxes and solids.

    If you do make Rosin then ISO hash oill pay close attention to where he puts the liquid back in the freezer snd filters it there. This does twree things for you.

    1. Filters out the stuff that makes tge oil taste NASTY.

    2. Higher yield than Everclear. I get 17.2-24.5% yield. Even powdery old buds 2 1/2-3 years old i get 12% yield.

    3. Winterizing TK remove those things that makes the oil taste bad increase the purity of the hash oil.
     
  6. Natural

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    digesting fats and lipids are much different than smoking them. everclear is safer than isopropyl for ingesting as far as any residuals left behind. . proper decarb will not leave any alcohol behind especially everclear.
    I use a spirit distiller and decarb in a hot oil bath using an induction cooktop. Amount of chlorophyll is determined by how cold the alcohol, material, and how long the alcohol is in contact with the solvent.

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  7. Two.Bears

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    Its very easy to get rid of the residual alcohol.

    1. When most of the alcohol is gone add a few drops water. Alcohol evaporates at a lower temp than water.

    2. If you have a vscuum Chamber pull a hard vacuum and you can fully purge the alcohol at very low temps without damaging the flavonoids and Terpenes.

    If there is residual alcohol it will make you cough for 30+ seconds. I don't even cough when i dab my QWISO.

    If you want to be sure you get the residual Solvent get a little oil on paper clip, straight pin or needle and burn the Hash oil. If alcohol is left it will pop and throw Sparks.

    I prefer to dab QWISO than to dab BHO because my QWISO is smoother to smoke.

    People have been extracting ISO hash for 120-150 years at least
     
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  8. Natural

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    I love qwet for smoking! But for RSO whole plant extraction even juicing buds makes perfect sense to me
     
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    My problem with Everclear as a Solvent is that the yield is 12-13%.

    With 99% isopropyl my yield is 17.2-24.5% about tge same as BHO.

    If yoy want to throw 40-50% of tgee medicine away be my guest
     
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  10. Two.Bears

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    If thats what you like thats what's yoy like.

    I like having 1 concentrate that i can use in a plethora of ways.

    Topically on cuts scrapes burns, skin cancer.

    Internally as an edible, tincture, cancer etc

    Make it into my DIY Ejuice for the pain of Chrons

    Dab it for smoking.

    If you winterize the liquid to remove the clorophyll fats lipids waxes and solids yoy have a Hash oil that can be used every way RSO, AND BHO can be used.
     
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  11. DGP

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    Yep, the RSO that was made had been winterized and filtered cold made using 95 proof Everclear. I have considered having RSO made with other solvents and beleive me the QWISO sounds very versatile but I may have to look around for someone I can trust to do the RSO for me. We have some good aspects of our legalized cannabis regulations and there are some really bad aspects. Even though it has been legal for a very short time the regulations have been growing exponentially. Here in Oregon it is illegal to make RSO unless you are an approved processor and have a $100,000 explosion proof room. So, finding someone to make small batches of RSO that are trustworthy is tricky. I find it so offensive that you can't make your own medicine with good ol grain alchohol. If I remember right it is upwards of 300,000 fine and up to 20 years in jail.

    Given the way people have started fires and explosions with butane I can see some of the logic behind the extraction regs, but come on, if making grain alcohol RSO is a crime it should also be illegal to do your own flambe in the kitchen, on a cooking show or even in a public resturaunt! If you smoke while refueling your car, my God that should be a life sentence, right? Fricken nanny state.......

    Ref:
    flam·bé
    flämˈbā/
    adjective
    1. 1.
      (of food) covered with liquor and set alight briefly.
      "crêpes flambé"
    2. 2.
      denoting or characterized by a red copper-based porcelain glaze with purple streaks.
    verb
    1. 1.
      cover (food) with liquor and set it alight briefly.

    DP
     
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  12. Two.Bears

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    Yoy can make RSO or QWISO very easily

    Watch RSO in seven steps. I think hus YouTube id us Burntmd

    Making QWISO is easy too. One of the best QWISO instruction videos is "QWISO jar method" YouTube Ethanol King 88
     
  13. Natural

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    I definitely hear what you are saying for sure bro. But Iso usually contains bitters, those once in the oil don't purge like alcohol. That's the main difference for edibles..food grade and not food grade alcohol. I wonder if the 99% special order ISO is bitters free?
     
  14. Two.Bears

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    Rick Simpson made his medicine with Namptha.
     
  15. DGP

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    Yes, my understanding is he had some special pure form of naptha that is no longer available or maybe just not to us in the US. However, naptha is a carcinogine and it makes little sense to me to use it when everclear is non-toxic.

    If I found someone to make it and he/she had a vacuum system it might be ok but trusting someone to do it right is the problem.
     
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    Same reason i never used Namptha


    I have been using alcohol stoves for 6 years and understand alcohol..

    Super easy
     
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    Watch "QWISO jar method" vid on YouTube by Ethanol King 88.

    Multiple steps but easy to follow.
     
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