Sea-Crop/Ormus

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OK so now for the tinfoil hat stuff lol. Regarding Ormus/Ormes there is definitely something to that yet that term is not something that really does the material justice. It's a material that has some weird characteristics. Arthur's background is in mining and ore extraction. He actually started chasing phantom gold right around the time David Hudson did. FWIW Arthur thinks David is a fraud. Arthur spent 10 years chasing phantom gold and finally gave up. He did all his own work while David had others do it. At one point Arthur had like 8 square miles of claims. One thing he said recently was someone(s) did a test/study on Mt. St. Helens where they put activated charcoal in streams. Come to find out gold would accumulate during the summer yet not in the winter. Huh? According to David Wolfe and the work he's done with his gold ormus product he believes that ultraviolet light forces M-state gold to precipitate out of something like water in a creek. Another thing that's happening is there's higher biological activity in water in the summer. Arthur's research indicated that it was the top 18" of soil that had the highest ormus concentration sooooo below that depth soil becomes anaerobic. I was dealing with someone, Larry, who knows John Milewski and working on some esoteric technology using Tesla stuff, scalar waves, Rife, torus fields, etc. on his won projects. Google John Milewski and can't get much better...worked for Exxon, Thiokol, Los Alomos and the light bulb he created is one of 6 the Smithsonian has on permanent display as milestones in the evolution of lighting. I believe he did that work under contract with the DOD. So come to find out Arthur has known John for years and mentioned using microwave technology for precipitating gold. What? So John started experimenting and ended up using brown bottle glass to precipitate gold. Then he puts the gold particles in a bed of magnetite and the particles continue to accumulate mass. So Larry then tells me Milewski has a project he's working on with the state of New Mexico for his gold precipitation project. Weird thing about the precipitated gold is that weighs 5/9ths of what gold should weigh even though the material will assay as gold in the lab. So then Arthur tells me that he can pull 500x more gold out of seawater than will show up in a typical assay. He said it would never be an economically feasible process. He did pull enough gold out to weigh it. Then he tells me that a guy, who now sells and makes ormus products, took some of his Sea-Crop and placed it under intense UV for months. At the end of the period he tested the material and the concentration of certain metals, like gold, platinum, etc., noticeably increased. This kind of goes along with what David Wolfe said regarding UV. So if anything the potential exists that there's matter in another state, basically a metal precursor, that gets converted to gold. Up to you to decide what you think.

Milewski created this crazy generator for the government and is actually what powers B1 bombers on their runs to Afghanistan and back WITHOUT refueling regardless of what the government will tell you regarding that.

As for the statement I made regarding not diluting Sea-Crop to less than .5% of the solution the hypothesis is that you lose the 'structured water' characteristic/activity. You can look up Dr. Gerald Pollack and his work on the 4th phase of water.

I know crazy stuff. Physics basically says matter does not exist and it's all energy so who knows. I sure don't yet fun to think about :)

I'm done dealing with Sea-Crop on a business level yet think it is a valuable addition to grow programs and enough field/trial data to support that. I know the animal study information is very interesting. I've spent enough of my life on this subject and time to focus on other things.
 
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There's basically two subjects in this thread Sea-Crop and Ormus. One is easy to get your head around and the other definitely esoteric. Outside the box and open minded thinking are required when talking about ormus. Kind of like some of the things quantum physics proposes and observed activities of electrons. Biological transmutation is a weird one. Bruce Tainio did an experiment for the military in a closed vessel using a bacterial culture. The sodium disappeared and the potassium spiked and still the military guys were asking about what happened to the sodium. I know Kempf uses that culture on fields when he runs into sodium problems. Also how chickens can continually lay nice hard shelled calcium rich eggs even though their diets are deprived of calcium. Long as they have potassium they're OK. So if bacteria can transmute sodium to potassium I'm sure there's lots of other things happening science has not proved yet but are still possible.
 
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Found out some info today regarding consumption by animals or humanoids. Work done with veal calves showed a 150% increase in killer T cell counts 48 hours after consumption. This was most likely due to the concentrared bacterial fragments in Sea-Crop. Appears someone already has a license/patent for using bacterial fragments as an immune stimulator. Guess the body sees the fragments as an invader and kicks into gear. The ocean is loaded with organic compounds.

Based on what I know/have learned it's the biologically active factor of Sea-Crop that's key for plants...and animals. I think part of that has to do with the trace and ultra-trace elements/minerals being complexed with organic substances.
 
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Interesting, fascinating even, but when we get into that quantum arena my head begins to spin. A LOT of what you're discussing is... esoteric to many of us.
 
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Interesting, fascinating even, but when we get into that quantum arena my head begins to spin. A LOT of what you're discussing is... esoteric to many of us.
Well the ormus aspect is pretty out there yet feel there's something to it especially when you have the caliber of people like John Milewski supporting the whole idea. He gets into stuff like 'Superlight' and other interesting stuff.

To expand on it's benefit to animals here's some info I dug up regarding the study on 250,000 broiler chicks in Europe. I thi nka lot of benefits from Sea-Crop comes from the trace and ultra trace minerals/elements and their relationship with enzymes/enzyme function: A reduction in the mortality rate of up to 90% in the first two weeks and a 5-15% reduction over the entire 6 week study period, foot infections were reduced up to 85%, skin abnormalities were reduced up to 66%, the feed conversion efficiency increased 3-13%, weight gain increased 3-10% and critical breast meat production increased 10%. The health and temperament of the chicks/chickens improved noticeably. People involved in the study, from egg raiser to the processing house operator, said they had never seen such a group of healthy and calm chickens.

I just wish the company would do more formal research into the product.
 
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G420, I've been using sea crop for a round and a half and it is AWESOME!! It has 89 trace elements. I spoke with one of the owners about dilution and as stated before a 1-2% is all that is required. He also told me that you would have to go over 100 times that to show a negative effect. For my recirculating drip set up I have a 40 gal res with 35 gals of nutrient solution I was told to add 5ml per day. Totally affordable. Over all health, yield increase etc. I have also reduced nutrients from about 1000 ppm to 800ppm.
 
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Read this recently and never followed up with it. Supposedly cesium showing up in kelp off San Diego. The article did not say which isotope. From Fukushima it's cesium 134 and cesium 137. Also considering the article is on Alex Jones's Info Wars site I question it's validity. Anyway my research indicated that any potentially contaminated water would start hitting around April 2014 so maybe it's early or maybe the info in the article is not accurate. I know Alex Jones has been pushing his iodine as a preventative against Fukushima radiation for awhile so he's selling stuff so a good reason to spread some fear. I have a bottle of Sea-Crop I bought late last year in expectation of possible radiation contamination just in case. I probably won't be buying any more until Arthur starts testing his product, at least quarterly, for possible contamination to be on the safe side if I see some type of confirmation in the media about cesium 134/137 actually being detected in coastal waters. I know Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute has established a program to start testing water from the Pacific coast and have not heard they've detected anything yet. Considering their credibility if they announce something it will get media attention. I might have mentioned that already. They're cost of like $550-$600 to have a sample shipped and tested is pretty stupid high based on what I remember lab costs to be at a place like GEL and shipping 50 lbs of water coast-to-coast is not that expensive.
 
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i wanna say that Art's set up is pulling water from off the coast of Washington, good call on looking out. I'm gonna check on something…..
 
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Yeah he's at the mouth of Willapa Bay on Toke Point. Pretty awesome spot that general area. Incredible oysters and clams! With him though he's got the current that pops up from deep, the Aleutian Trench current I believe, and that should dilute any problems. That upwelling one of the reasons he can manufacture there. The WSDA is expecting any radiation to be so dilute it won't be detectable. Gonna take a long time for this issue to play out. If you look at maps of expected landfall of the radiation the main blast hits right about where he is.
 
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I can tell you that it works amazing on plants! It is not hard to make the ormus yourself and save TONS of money. All you need is pure sea salts, water and Lye, and a cheap PH meter.

Himalayan Sea Salt works VERY well.....

You basically saturate the water with the sea salt until no more will dissolve. Then you slowly raise the PH levels to 10.8.....very slowly by adding a little lye at a time while keeping a constant stir on the solution.

At or near 10.8 you will start to see the water solution begin to turn white......the magnesium and calcium that is said to carry the "ORMES" will sink to the bottom of your glass container......and the clear water will form a layer on top......

You then begin to wash out all the lye by adding distilled water , letting the white layer separate and layer to the bottom, then suck the clear water carefully from the top layer, then repeat about 6 times total, and your solution should be lye free.

The concentrated forms of magnesium and calcium is enough ALONE to supercharge any grow op.......the ORME material doesnt hurt either I suspect....

This is not only for plants, but for people and pets as well. There are MANY studies and reports of people claiming amazing health benefits...one guy was 65 years old and after taking it for a few months, his grey hair on his beard and head turned back red like when he was young.....another guy had a tooth grow back that was pulled 20 years earlier.....there is a claim of a cats tail growing back after years had passed from the accident that cut the tail off......there are hundreds and thousands of reports spanning over a 100 years time...

Some think this ormus is what Moses made in the bible called "Manna" that kept people alive in the desert for YEARS where there was no food or water.....

ORMUS has many other names and has been shown to be in use even back in ancient Egyptian times before the pyramids were built....

It is said to heal the body on a "molecular" level.....

It has been long known that elements like gold could be stripped down of all there molecules except for one......hence the name "mono-atomic gold" and similar.....meaning it is gold but with only one molecule.....this has shown to have "strange" properties to say the least....

MANY element metals are known to have amazing and strange properties that we really do not fully understand yet......Mercury for example is a "liquid" metal and only 1 proton away from being gold (Margarine for example is VERY close to "plastic"....yikes!!).

They have studies done in universities where mercury is put into a nuclear reactor for 24 hours, which forces the release of the proton and when they pull it out, it has turned to gold.

More recent studies are showing amazing properties by types of bacteria that can live in the bottom of a reactor for example.....they are called "extremophiles" in most cases and if you think regular bacteria and fungi is powerful to plants and is bad ass....think of what these "extreme" type bacteria that live in the harshest environments possible can do?????

I have done study/research/experiments on this material for over 10 years now and have LOTS of data on it if anyone is interested. I do not know if it is "Manna" or not....but there IS merit to the claims, I have seen this first hand myself.

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This process sounds a lot like a secret recipe I use to make ;)

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A few things here:

Monatomic gold simply refers to the neutral state of the element gold (not a molecule). Which is to suggest that it is monatomic form (one atom). This is in contrast to a molecule like oxygen, which is diatomic in its natural state ( O2 ). In O2, there are two oxygen atoms--but this is still considered an element and not a molecule because this is the neutral "elemental" state of the substance (much as with iodine [I2] or bromine [Br2]).

It's not really proper to discuss mercury as being "one proton" away from being gold. This is true under a basic conceptualization of the chemistry at play--but the reality is that "one proton" makes a huge god damn difference in the physical world. Ask hydrogen and helium if you don't believe me.

This is even more true for the comparison of margarine to plastic which is totally unscientific and unrealistic. Water is almost hydrogen peroxide (only one atom away, much closer than margarine is to plastic), but it doesn't really make sense to compare the two substances this way--because those tiny differences (one atom here, another atom there) make an ENORMOUS difference with regard to reactivity and physical properties. Try drinking 100% hydrogen peroxide and see how that feels (you will begin to die and agonize before it makes it even halfway down your esophagus).

It is possible to generate gold from mercury because we understand the physics governing this atom very well, but there is no information to be gleaned from this understanding that informs a better understanding of the usefulness of this method/material. The two concepts have nothing whatsoever to do with one another.

Now, with those corrections in place let's move on to the meat.

ORMEs refers to "Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Elements". This is a fictional class of elements which was hypothesized incorrectly through misapplication of concepts having to do with "deformed" or "altered" nuclei.

What the originators of this hypothesis failed to realize is that these nuclear phenomena are only observed in particle accelerators and nuclear reactors at EXTREMELY SHORT timescales. This is not an effect which can be stabilized or taken advantage of.

Now, it would require some chemistry knowledge to fully explain the following list of chemical properties/contradictions which would be expected based on the prevailing hypothesis of ORMEs--so instead of fully explaining them I will briefly outline them for laymen below.

1. Gold would be diatomic in its neutral state, possessing an ionic bond between the two gold molecules. The result would be that gold would dissolve in water.

2. The patent application by the originator of this idea suggests that the IR spectra he provided demonstrate the "electron pairing" in his new substance. Unfortunately IR spectrometry is incapable of determining this, because the electron interactions would only respond to radiation in the UV range. This demonstrates the researcher lacks understanding of chemical bonding and the nature of radiation. IR spec depends on the vibration of chemical bonds caused by IR radiation--while bonds represent a sharing of electrons, the researcher here has misidentified these interactions as having to do with "electron pairing" which is a totally different concept.

3. His patent application is riddled with spelling and nomenclature errors, demonstrating his lack of expertise yet again. Cis-platin becomes "sys-platinum", unfortunately cis has a very specific meaning within chemical nomenclature and sys means nothing at all.

4. He repeatedly uses units which are incompatible with one another. At one point suggesting there are 10^18 ergs per gauss. Unfortunately ergs are an energy unit equal to ~100 nanojoules and gauss is a unit of magnetic flux (not energy) equal to 100 microteslas. He even mentions that the magnetic field of Earth is "several gauss" when in fact it is less than 1.

5. He claims that superconductors are in your body now, while a superconducting quantum interference device (which would certainly detect these) has never been able to substantiate this claim.

6. He appears, repeatedly, to make the claim that somehow HAu is different from AuH. This, for lack of a better way to say it, takes a fat shit on the face of chemical science. It makes absolutely zero sense. It's like saying HOH is different from H2O. If the atoms are connected the same way, it's the same stuff. The only reason chemists flip these around sometimes is to properly show which atom is connected to which--a convention which the researcher here appears to have assumed had a meaning that it does not.

In the end we should be very happy that, in fact, his claims are not substantiated--because soluble forms of precious metals happen to be very toxic. I can assure you with 1 million percent certainty that you would be dead within 24 hours if you ingested any appreciable amount of them.

As for the manna comparison, God created/dropped manna for the Israelites to consume. There is no reference to Moses having "made" it, ever.


What this all stems from is a guy who had what was likely absolutely zero chemical training who believed himself qualified to make determinations which would require SIGNIFICANT knowledge of chemistry. To make the discoveries he claims to have, one would need to possess at least 5x the chemical knowledge which I myself can claim--and through reading the patent here I have convinced the living hell out of myself that there is no way this guy has such expertise.

Now, could the resultant slurry here be of use to plants? Certainly, it contains magnesium and calcium hydroxides.

The process here is nothing more than a day one Chemistry 101 laboratory exercise having to do with solubility of group I and II metals. I performed this exact reaction in my first ever general chemistry laboratory course.

I'm not suggesting that this recipe isn't helpful to plants, or that it might not be a great thing to try--hell I'm considering giving it a go, as I much prefer the freedom to apply calcium and magnesium separately (which is possible after some further separation here).

However, I would be remiss if I had not called into question the rest of the claims of ORMEs. The name says it all, from the perspective of an actual chemist.

"Orbitally rearranged" is a non-sensical statement given the procedure outlined by the researcher here for several reasons:

1. Orbitals are EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND AND DISCUSS. This probably represents the most difficult concept in all of chemistry (and may even rival much of what physics does, as physics is also involved here). And Hudson has made it very clear that he simply doesn't have the expertise required.

2. Even if he did understand orbitals, it would be very clear that "rearrangement" of them is not possible if chemical bonds are kept constant. IE, you can't end up with "orbitally rearranged" water. Water is water, and when the atoms are hooked up as they are in water--the orbitals will also be arranged in a particular way. I likely can't give you sufficient proof here unless you understand orbitals, but suffice it to say that orbitals are hybridized through bonding.

The shape they take on is absolute and the geometry of molecules is a direct result of the orbital hybridization. In short, if there is truth to this guy's statement--then virtually everything we know about chemistry is wrong. This does not seem reasonable considering the highly predictive nature of chemistry. You give me 3 atoms bonded together, and I can tell you the bond angles (to within 0.005% error) and lengths based on molecular orbital theory. Show me two substances and I'll tell you if they'll react. 90% of all reactions ever performed would never have happened or been discovered without a discrete understanding of orbitals--an understanding which Hudson attempted to undermine or misrepresent here.

TLDR: Try it for your plants, because it makes sense it would be helpful--but in terms of the science claims: Sense makes none. The guy tried REALLY HARD, and frankly I've never seen someone go so far with so little actual knowledge.

This is a dude who is REALLY GREAT at sounding like he knows what he's talking about--but to a professional he appears very clearly as what he is, a hack and a liar. It is impossible to both fail so miserably to make a cogent chemical point AND to at the same time possess any appreciable chemical education/knowledge.

It is my opinion that this guy is pretending to know stuff that he does not by doing some reading and learning some fancy terminology and that he very clearly knows that is what he is doing.

Totally reprehensible and useless imvho.

I was about to say something about that post too, but Squiggly has it handled! He puts everything so much more elegantly than I can too.
 
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A few things here:

Monatomic gold simply refers to the neutral state of the element gold (not a molecule). Which is to suggest that it is monatomic form (one atom). This is in contrast to a molecule like oxygen, which is diatomic in its natural state ( O2 ). In O2, there are two oxygen atoms--but this is still considered an element and not a molecule because this is the neutral "elemental" state of the substance (much as with iodine [I2] or bromine [Br2]).

It's not really proper to discuss mercury as being "one proton" away from being gold. This is true under a basic conceptualization of the chemistry at play--but the reality is that "one proton" makes a huge god damn difference in the physical world. Ask hydrogen and helium if you don't believe me.

This is even more true for the comparison of margarine to plastic which is totally unscientific and unrealistic. Water is almost hydrogen peroxide (only one atom away, much closer than margarine is to plastic), but it doesn't really make sense to compare the two substances this way--because those tiny differences (one atom here, another atom there) make an ENORMOUS difference with regard to reactivity and physical properties. Try drinking 100% hydrogen peroxide and see how that feels (you will begin to die and agonize before it makes it even halfway down your esophagus).

It is possible to generate gold from mercury because we understand the physics governing this atom very well, but there is no information to be gleaned from this understanding that informs a better understanding of the usefulness of this method/material. The two concepts have nothing whatsoever to do with one another.

Now, with those corrections in place let's move on to the meat.

ORMEs refers to "Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Elements". This is a fictional class of elements which was hypothesized incorrectly through misapplication of concepts having to do with "deformed" or "altered" nuclei.

What the originators of this hypothesis failed to realize is that these nuclear phenomena are only observed in particle accelerators and nuclear reactors at EXTREMELY SHORT timescales. This is not an effect which can be stabilized or taken advantage of.

Now, it would require some chemistry knowledge to fully explain the following list of chemical properties/contradictions which would be expected based on the prevailing hypothesis of ORMEs--so instead of fully explaining them I will briefly outline them for laymen below.

1. Gold would be diatomic in its neutral state, possessing an ionic bond between the two gold molecules. The result would be that gold would dissolve in water.

2. The patent application by the originator of this idea suggests that the IR spectra he provided demonstrate the "electron pairing" in his new substance. Unfortunately IR spectrometry is incapable of determining this, because the electron interactions would only respond to radiation in the UV range. This demonstrates the researcher lacks understanding of chemical bonding and the nature of radiation. IR spec depends on the vibration of chemical bonds caused by IR radiation--while bonds represent a sharing of electrons, the researcher here has misidentified these interactions as having to do with "electron pairing" which is a totally different concept.

3. His patent application is riddled with spelling and nomenclature errors, demonstrating his lack of expertise yet again. Cis-platin becomes "sys-platinum", unfortunately cis has a very specific meaning within chemical nomenclature and sys means nothing at all.

4. He repeatedly uses units which are incompatible with one another. At one point suggesting there are 10^18 ergs per gauss. Unfortunately ergs are an energy unit equal to ~100 nanojoules and gauss is a unit of magnetic flux (not energy) equal to 100 microteslas. He even mentions that the magnetic field of Earth is "several gauss" when in fact it is less than 1.

5. He claims that superconductors are in your body now, while a superconducting quantum interference device (which would certainly detect these) has never been able to substantiate this claim.

6. He appears, repeatedly, to make the claim that somehow HAu is different from AuH. This, for lack of a better way to say it, takes a fat shit on the face of chemical science. It makes absolutely zero sense. It's like saying HOH is different from H2O. If the atoms are connected the same way, it's the same stuff. The only reason chemists flip these around sometimes is to properly show which atom is connected to which--a convention which the researcher here appears to have assumed had a meaning that it does not.

In the end we should be very happy that, in fact, his claims are not substantiated--because soluble forms of precious metals happen to be very toxic. I can assure you with 1 million percent certainty that you would be dead within 24 hours if you ingested any appreciable amount of them.

As for the manna comparison, God created/dropped manna for the Israelites to consume. There is no reference to Moses having "made" it, ever.


What this all stems from is a guy who had what was likely absolutely zero chemical training who believed himself qualified to make determinations which would require SIGNIFICANT knowledge of chemistry. To make the discoveries he claims to have, one would need to possess at least 5x the chemical knowledge which I myself can claim--and through reading the patent here I have convinced the living hell out of myself that there is no way this guy has such expertise.

Now, could the resultant slurry here be of use to plants? Certainly, it contains magnesium and calcium hydroxides.

The process here is nothing more than a day one Chemistry 101 laboratory exercise having to do with solubility of group I and II metals. I performed this exact reaction in my first ever general chemistry laboratory course.

I'm not suggesting that this recipe isn't helpful to plants, or that it might not be a great thing to try--hell I'm considering giving it a go, as I much prefer the freedom to apply calcium and magnesium separately (which is possible after some further separation here).

However, I would be remiss if I had not called into question the rest of the claims of ORMEs. The name says it all, from the perspective of an actual chemist.

"Orbitally rearranged" is a non-sensical statement given the procedure outlined by the researcher here for several reasons:

1. Orbitals are EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND AND DISCUSS. This probably represents the most difficult concept in all of chemistry (and may even rival much of what physics does, as physics is also involved here). And Hudson has made it very clear that he simply doesn't have the expertise required.

2. Even if he did understand orbitals, it would be very clear that "rearrangement" of them is not possible if chemical bonds are kept constant. IE, you can't end up with "orbitally rearranged" water. Water is water, and when the atoms are hooked up as they are in water--the orbitals will also be arranged in a particular way. I likely can't give you sufficient proof here unless you understand orbitals, but suffice it to say that orbitals are hybridized through bonding.

The shape they take on is absolute and the geometry of molecules is a direct result of the orbital hybridization. In short, if there is truth to this guy's statement--then virtually everything we know about chemistry is wrong. This does not seem reasonable considering the highly predictive nature of chemistry. You give me 3 atoms bonded together, and I can tell you the bond angles (to within 0.005% error) and lengths based on molecular orbital theory. Show me two substances and I'll tell you if they'll react. 90% of all reactions ever performed would never have happened or been discovered without a discrete understanding of orbitals--an understanding which Hudson attempted to undermine or misrepresent here.

TLDR: Try it for your plants, because it makes sense it would be helpful--but in terms of the science claims: Sense makes none. The guy tried REALLY HARD, and frankly I've never seen someone go so far with so little actual knowledge.

This is a dude who is REALLY GREAT at sounding like he knows what he's talking about--but to a professional he appears very clearly as what he is, a hack and a liar. It is impossible to both fail so miserably to make a cogent chemical point AND to at the same time possess any appreciable chemical education/knowledge.

It is my opinion that this guy is pretending to know stuff that he does not by doing some reading and learning some fancy terminology and that he very clearly knows that is what he is doing.

Totally reprehensible and useless imvho.
After reading this in its entirety... I am not on this dudes level, lol. The man knows his chemistry!
 
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My beliefs, are based on experiments conducted in a lab. I did misuse terms as I was trying to keep things basic and in laymen terms but thanks as always squiggly for being a "Johnny on the spot" and for being right there to correct and try to discredit my posting.....lol!! ....this is becoming habit for you I see. I am not here to impress you or anyone else with my scientific knowledge, or post others people's work copied from a google search as squiggly has become so excellent at, what I post comes FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN A LAB.

I have seen the effects first hand that simply CAN NOT be explained by "standard" science and physics as squiggly so desperately wants you to believe, and even chemistry can NOT explain the effects produced time and time again in a lab. Chemistry is coming full circle back to Alchemy....lots do not believe that either.

I also have 100's of pictures, documented evidence, and about 10 years of experiments and research study trying to find a answer to the MANY questions and effects that simply are not explained away by VERY BASIC CHEMICAL OPERATIONS LIKE COVALENT BONDS, once again that squiggly would have you believe!! I do more than just google searches for information. And I am also not alone as I collaborate with several other scientist, some of which work at MIT in Boston.....they do not seem to agree with squiggles either....ROFL!!

David Hudson was a farmer who accidentally discovered strange properties after dumping a bunch of acid on his soil farmland. He is guilty as well of trying to find out "what" it was he discovered. He has MANY patents.......

The truth of the matter is that science is having to LEARN the basics.....all over again with very NEW and deep understandings.....

People like squiggly like to think we already have things sorted out....WE DO NOT!

We do not even know what TIME is......we do not even understand WATER!!

We do not understand the basics of life even.......

The good news is that people like squiggly will NEVER get in the way or stop new learning and new understanding no matter how much OLD DATA he post that we now know is NOT accurate at all!! The world was flat once......do not ever forget that!!

In fact it has the opposite effect, as it makes people want to work even harder to prove that there is MORE going on than we think or even understand. Posting the OLD OUTDATED DATA just makes it even easier to disprove as FALSE IMVHO.

On the cutting edge of science and research today, there is literally a ENDLESS amount of data being brought to the front and center for ALL TO SEE that WANT TO SEE!!

In time even folks like squiggly will understand one day just how wrong we really were and how LITTLE we really know and understand, that I can assure you of....it happens to us ALL if you live long enough.....you think you have a GOOD understanding and grasp of things...then something happens.....and you one day awake and realize just how clueless you really are.....the EGO is a terrible thing!!!

When people meditate for example which SCIENCE now knows is REAL, your mind goes to a place where EGO is separated from the human element....and that my friend is a WONDERFUL place to visit!!

Even PRAYER is now a scientific study and is able to be "measured" by scientific hardware in a lab that has been SO POWERFUL, that doctors of today now encourage it to there patients!! Placebo accounts for 1/3 of ALL medical cases!! If Placebo has the POWER TO HEAL, what do you think "NON PLACEBO" does or accounts for????

See if google can answer that one squiggles!! LOL!!

There have been MANY people in history that came along and shook things up......most known about was when the SCIENCE world was SURE that the earth was in the middle and all evolved around it.....can you imagine the ridicule that this first poor bastard endured to get this information he KNEW WAS TRUE out to the world...to SCIENCE???? Can you imagine or have ANY IDEA how many people called "BS"?????

Aristarchus of Samos, a greek philosopher and astronomer (310BC-230BC) first presented the theory that the Sun was at the centre of the solar system (heliocentrism) but his ideas were rejected in favour of the theories of Ptolemy and Aristotle that the Earth was at the centre (geocentrism).

Copernicus (1473-1543) re-raised, developed and published the heliocentric theory in the 16th Century (nearly 1800 years after Aristarchus). It was a contentious issue, and the heliocentric theory was supported by Galileo (1564-1642) but he was persecuted (tried by the Roman Church's inquisition and found guilty of heresy) till he died.

When Quantum Mechanics was first discovered oh about a 100 years ago now....it BROKE every physics law in EXISTENCE!! And this continues to this day!!

Be Well.......

Wtf?!? Are you serious? I see a lot of talk here, but no actual data.

Squiggly posted a sound argument, you reply with these accusations and assertions. Have some class, man.
 
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I know this was like a month ago, not trying to stir shit up or anything. I just HAD to say something.

That is all.
 
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Yeah he's at the mouth of Willapa Bay on Toke Point. Pretty awesome spot that general area. Incredible oysters and clams! With him though he's got the current that pops up from deep, the Aleutian Trench current I believe, and that should dilute any problems. That upwelling one of the reasons he can manufacture there. The WSDA is expecting any radiation to be so dilute it won't be detectable. Gonna take a long time for this issue to play out. If you look at maps of expected landfall of the radiation the main blast hits right about where he is.
 
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For some time now I have viewed this thread only because you used Seacrop personally. Could not bring myself to do it until now. Any observations you have made I would appreciate it.
Thanks
 
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Love this thread. Really enjoyed reading everyone's data, opinions, and insights. I plan to try out some SEA-CROP in my outdoor veggie garden this summer, and on some indoor Cannabis. Thanks all!
 
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Love this thread. Really enjoyed reading everyone's data, opinions, and insights. I plan to try out some SEA-CROP in my outdoor veggie garden this summer, and on some indoor Cannabis. Thanks all!
Been using Sea Crop for 3 years..it is available at a local Organics shop. Along with the organic soil sold there its all I use. Very happy... No need for any nutes.. Good stuff.
 
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I did end up using SEA-90 in my veggie garden + outdoor cannabis last summer. Top dressed the soil, and gave foliage applications every couple weeks.

Hard to say how much it helped, but i had a good veggie year, and outdoor cannabis was killer too! It’s nice to know that my veggies “should” have higher micronutrient levels. I plan to continue using.
 
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My beliefs, are based on experiments conducted in a lab. I did misuse terms as I was trying to keep things basic and in laymen terms but thanks as always squiggly for being a "Johnny on the spot" and for being right there to correct and try to discredit my posting.....lol!! ....this is becoming habit for you I see. I am not here to impress you or anyone else with my scientific knowledge, or post others people's work copied from a google search as squiggly has become so excellent at, what I post comes FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN A LAB.

I have seen the effects first hand that simply CAN NOT be explained by "standard" science and physics as squiggly so desperately wants you to believe, and even chemistry can NOT explain the effects produced time and time again in a lab. Chemistry is coming full circle back to Alchemy....lots do not believe that either.

I also have 100's of pictures, documented evidence, and about 10 years of experiments and research study trying to find a answer to the MANY questions and effects that simply are not explained away by VERY BASIC CHEMICAL OPERATIONS LIKE COVALENT BONDS, once again that squiggly would have you believe!! I do more than just google searches for information. And I am also not alone as I collaborate with several other scientist, some of which work at MIT in Boston.....they do not seem to agree with squiggles either....ROFL!!

David Hudson was a farmer who accidentally discovered strange properties after dumping a bunch of acid on his soil farmland. He is guilty as well of trying to find out "what" it was he discovered. He has MANY patents.......

The truth of the matter is that science is having to LEARN the basics.....all over again with very NEW and deep understandings.....

People like squiggly like to think we already have things sorted out....WE DO NOT!

We do not even know what TIME is......we do not even understand WATER!!

We do not understand the basics of life even.......

The good news is that people like squiggly will NEVER get in the way or stop new learning and new understanding no matter how much OLD DATA he post that we now know is NOT accurate at all!! The world was flat once......do not ever forget that!!

In fact it has the opposite effect, as it makes people want to work even harder to prove that there is MORE going on than we think or even understand. Posting the OLD OUTDATED DATA just makes it even easier to disprove as FALSE IMVHO.

On the cutting edge of science and research today, there is literally a ENDLESS amount of data being brought to the front and center for ALL TO SEE that WANT TO SEE!!

In time even folks like squiggly will understand one day just how wrong we really were and how LITTLE we really know and understand, that I can assure you of....it happens to us ALL if you live long enough.....you think you have a GOOD understanding and grasp of things...then something happens.....and you one day awake and realize just how clueless you really are.....the EGO is a terrible thing!!!

When people meditate for example which SCIENCE now knows is REAL, your mind goes to a place where EGO is separated from the human element....and that my friend is a WONDERFUL place to visit!!

Even PRAYER is now a scientific study and is able to be "measured" by scientific hardware in a lab that has been SO POWERFUL, that doctors of today now encourage it to there patients!! Placebo accounts for 1/3 of ALL medical cases!! If Placebo has the POWER TO HEAL, what do you think "NON PLACEBO" does or accounts for????

See if google can answer that one squiggles!! LOL!!

There have been MANY people in history that came along and shook things up......most known about was when the SCIENCE world was SURE that the earth was in the middle and all evolved around it.....can you imagine the ridicule that this first poor bastard endured to get this information he KNEW WAS TRUE out to the world...to SCIENCE???? Can you imagine or have ANY IDEA how many people called "BS"?????

Aristarchus of Samos, a greek philosopher and astronomer (310BC-230BC) first presented the theory that the Sun was at the centre of the solar system (heliocentrism) but his ideas were rejected in favour of the theories of Ptolemy and Aristotle that the Earth was at the centre (geocentrism).

Copernicus (1473-1543) re-raised, developed and published the heliocentric theory in the 16th Century (nearly 1800 years after Aristarchus). It was a contentious issue, and the heliocentric theory was supported by Galileo (1564-1642) but he was persecuted (tried by the Roman Church's inquisition and found guilty of heresy) till he died.

When Quantum Mechanics was first discovered oh about a 100 years ago now....it BROKE every physics law in EXISTENCE!! And this continues to this day!!

Be Well.......
 

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