Clones From Nanner Mother

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I took clones from a flowering plant that had nanner,will clones show same traits as mother? Also same plant was grown without any stress and showed no signs of nanner till very end but this grow she was stressed due to timer get messed up for one week.She was in flower for three weeks and the light mess up reveg her and stressed her so will clones do the same. Grow great without stress or just nanner, I love the pheno and would love to keep any advice.She is also two or three weeks from finish not sure when she will be done, do till light being messed up that another question where am I in grow weeks because of light reveg for one week? Thanks anyone who replies.
 
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I took clones from a flowering plant that had nanner,will clones show same traits as mother? Also same plant was grown without any stress and showed no signs of nanner till very end but this grow she was stressed due to timer get messed up for one week.She was in flower for three weeks and the light mess up reveg her and stressed her so will clones do the same. Grow great without stress or just nanner, I love the pheno and would love to keep any advice.She is also two or three weeks from finish not sure when she will be done, do till light being messed up that another question where am I in grow weeks because of light reveg for one week? Thanks anyone who replies.
Yes traits the same as the mother.. A female that throws nanners is not stable so don't make seeds with her.. As far as finish time watch the trichomes.. Peace
 
Papa Indica

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I'm one of many people who hate that so many people are so accepting of hermaphrodite traits these days, where is the incentive for breeders to put in the time and work to rid their strains of these traits when people are climbing the walls for the next big thing and completely accepting that herms are just part of the game. It is NOT acceptable.

Now that I got that out of my system and since none of that helps you....

While clones do carry the same genes as the mother, herm traits can sometimes disappear in the clone lines. If your mother threw nanners late in flower, (a time when they tend not to be fertile), I'd say you have a chance of it disappearing for you, you may have to go a couple of generations for it to happen, or maybe not, or it may not go away at all. It's a crap-shoot, kinda like buying seeds from a lot of these new "breeders" out there today.
 
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I'm one of many people who hate that so many people are so accepting of hermaphrodite traits these days, where is the incentive for breeders to put in the time and work to rid their strains of these traits when people are climbing the walls for the next big thing and completely accepting that herms are just part of the game. It is NOT acceptable.

Now that I got that out of my system and since none of that helps you....

While clones do carry the same genes as the mother, herm traits can sometimes disappear in the clone lines. If your mother threw nanners late in flower, (a time when they tend not to be fertile), I'd say you have a chance of it disappearing for you, you may have to go a couple of generations for it to happen, or maybe not, or it may not go away at all. It's a crap-shoot, kinda like buying seeds from a lot of these new "breeders" out there today.
Thanks for the insight I order my seed from greenhouse seeds and Amsterdam marijuana seeds the ak47 xtrm great seeds no nanners so I took the Same white widow and ak47 and crossed them again to make more seeds got same genetic and pheno form seeds I breed and love this pheno but I understand traits are traits and I was hoping for good news that's all
 
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Yes traits the same as the mother.. A female that throws nanners is not stable so don't make seeds with her.. As far as finish time watch the trichomes.. Peace
Yeah that what I'm doing is watching t
Yes traits the same as the mother.. A female that throws nanners is not stable so don't make seeds with her.. As far as finish time watch the trichomes.. Peace
I don't plan on making seeds I already did that with that strain. Im watching the trichomes that why I said two or three weeks left thank I was just hoping for good news that's all
 
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Some of the best strains throw late flower nanners, its not a terrible thing.
There is not a lot maybe one or two but the thing is that there is two different strains that I made that throw nanners. First time breeding I just crossed the same to strains from ams and made same strain and pheno but the other one was a good strain that a friend gave me and crossed with white widow from ams. Could it of been light or just some of the best strains I got? That's some good news thanks would love to know where u got that info?
 
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I'm one of many people who hate that so many people are so accepting of hermaphrodite traits these days, where is the incentive for breeders to put in the time and work to rid their strains of these traits when people are climbing the walls for the next big thing and completely accepting that herms are just part of the game. It is NOT acceptable.

Now that I got that out of my system and since none of that helps you....

While clones do carry the same genes as the mother, herm traits can sometimes disappear in the clone lines. If your mother threw nanners late in flower, (a time when they tend not to be fertile), I'd say you have a chance of it disappearing for you, you may have to go a couple of generations for it to happen, or maybe not, or it may not go away at all. It's a crap-shoot, kinda like buying seeds from a lot of these new "breeders" out there today.
Ghouse and ams both had nanners from my experience but also I had light issues. So keep going with them is what u are saying? I think I'm going to and see what happens with the clones I've taken. Thanks for the info I really do appreciate it.
 
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The fact that your plants throw male flowers (nanners), in the last week or so of flower does not make them hermies, many pure breeding strains do this as a survival mechanism so that in nature they can self germinate in order to procreate the next generation..I'm sure you know this, and also remember some of the best strains on the market were created using nanners put out by otherwise female plants, sometimes by sccident, and other times very much on purpose.
 
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The fact that your plants throw male flowers (nanners), in the last week or so of flower does not make them hermies, many pure breeding strains do this as a survival mechanism so that in nature they can self germinate in order to procreate the next generation..I'm sure you know this, and also remember some of the best strains on the market were created using nanners put out by otherwise female plants, sometimes by sccident, and other times very much on purpose.
Yeah but the one strain may have two or three weeks left and is making nanners. The other strain have, maybe a week left I can understand that one with what you are saying but the other one that has two or three weeks left That's my problem I was thinking that the light made them throw nanners, not just a survival instinct because I thought they throw nanner at the very end even passed harvest time
 
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If you dont shave the legs it is my understanding that most plants will nanner on the bottom larf unless they have some good light shining under their skirt.
 
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If you dont shave the legs it is my understanding that most plants will nanner on the bottom larf unless they have some good light shining under their skirt.
Having my problem on top I shave
 
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I wouldnt think that the clones would nanner if you didnt stress them in flower unless the nannering was genetic
 
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Yeah but the one strain may have two or three weeks left and is making nanners. The other strain have, maybe a week left I can understand that one with what you are saying but the other one that has two or three weeks left That's my problem I was thinking that the light made them throw nanners, not just a survival instinct because I thought they throw nanner at the very end even passed harvest time
That's it right there, past harvest time, that "survival mechanism" kicks in when they go past the point of harvest, not before. There are some great strains made by intentionally making a plant throw male flowers, that's how we get our feminized seeds but, the ones created "by accident" because of self-herming plants can have those traits bred out if the breeder wants to take the time and effort of doing back-crosses, working the strain until undesirable traits are eliminated.
Taking a plant past the harvest window to induce production of male flowers is one of the ways that fem seeds are made because that is a natural function, plants throwing nanners anytime during natural flowering time is not and those who produce seeds and pass them on from that kind of stuff only further the problem.
 
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That's it right there, past harvest time, that "survival mechanism" kicks in when they go past the point of harvest, not before. There are some great strains made by intentionally making a plant throw male flowers, that's how we get our feminized seeds but, the ones created "by accident" because of self-herming plants can have those traits bred out if the breeder wants to take the time and effort of doing back-crosses, working the strain until undesirable traits are eliminated.
Taking a plant past the harvest window to induce production of male flowers is one of the ways that fem seeds are made because that is a natural function, plants throwing nanners anytime during natural flowering time is not and those who produce seeds and pass them on from that kind of stuff only further the problem.
I did a back cross on the ak47 with a white widow I have and still got nanners I may try a few more times to stabilize her a little better because I really like what she does beside the nanners, again thanks for the help and I enjoy talking to someone with some sense, knowledge and I really never was able to talk to anyone that knows anything not a lot of grower around me and was always worried about going to places like this but not too bad so last question what would you do try to correct and stabilize her and or just find another strain and start from scratch and hope for no more nanner on new strains.
 
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I wouldnt think that the clones would nanner if you didnt stress them in flower unless the nannering was genetic
Well I hope you are right because I'm going to try it anyway because the best way to really learn is to do it I guess thanks for the confidence boost, and I really don't think it was genetic but doesn't it have to be genetic or no I'll let u know what happens I'm hoping for the best
 
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I did a back cross on the ak47 with a white widow I have and still got nanners I may try a few more times to stabilize her a little better because I really like what she does beside the nanners, again thanks for the help and I enjoy talking to someone with some sense, knowledge and I really never was able to talk to anyone that knows anything not a lot of grower around me and was always worried about going to places like this but not too bad so last question what would you do try to correct and stabilize her and or just find another strain and start from scratch and hope for no more nanner on new strains.
If it doesn't straighten out in clone runs or with back crossing, I'd say move on, there are a ton of killer strains out there, I'm sure you can find something worth running, I don't have trouble with that stuff with the things I've run/am running. I don't mess around with breeding myself, I just know that these things can be worked out by those who do.
 
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If it doesn't straighten out in clone runs or with back crossing, I'd say move on, there are a ton of killer strains out there, I'm sure you can find something worth running, I don't have trouble with that stuff with the things I've run/am running. I don't mess around with breeding myself, I just know that these things can be worked out by those who do.
Yeah I thought I had really good genetics but I guess not that what worries me about getting more. What are you ruining if you don't mind telling and from where?
 
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Could it of been light or just some of the best strains I got? That's some good news thanks would love to know where u got that info?

I can give two examples of revered cuttings that have or were held for decades that famously had late flower nanner showing. One is Rene, and the other is the skunkweed we got in 1980, a hellish skunk reeker, it would throw later flower nanners around week 9.5-10.5 I heard Rene would do it as early as 6-7 weeks, so it was often taken a bit early. So good though, people tolerated the nannerism.
 
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Stressing out went in grow room today and found more nanners this shit is driving me crazy. Found more on another ak47 and the Orange crush and the super lemon haze. Three totally different strains from good breeders and still got nanners I'm close to end on a few of them and other still have a while to go, don't know what to do I feel like chopping the whole room right now. It had to of been the dam light problem I had there is no other explanation for this. If a plant reverts back to veg in flower be considered stress? Because that's the only stress they were exposed to.
 
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