Best Use Of Space 9x20' Flower Room

[Mike Hawk]

What's up farmers, I would love to get some input on the best use of space in my scenario. It's nothing crazy but bigger than I have experience with.

The room is already set up. It's 9' x 20' with 12' ceiling. It is sealed with 2 Mitsubishi 2 ton mini splits, quest 155 dehu, co2, 8 1k Nanolux de lights.

Everything is ready to rock and now I'm in the planning stages of the plant layout. Obviously looking for max yield, so what would be the best setup here? I was thinking 6 3x6 tables with either coco beds or 2 gallon coco pots, 8 or so plants per table depending on strain with automated feeds. Also what is a realistic yield to shoot for once dialed?

 

[Mr.Xagain]

Sounds epic, you've got enough ac for the 8k watts. Iwould put a blue tarp for floor cover and to give you more space between your light source and plant canopy. Im not familiar with nanolux DE, but gavitas @ 1k DE you would need 15' high ceilings. You could go with 5gl fabric pots directly on a 3×6 ebb and flood tray or 2 3×3 trays on the floor 4 plants per 3×3 area. Theres a guy go's by ommp, his set up is on coco beds but then youd have them raised so that they can drain excess nutes wich would give you even less space between canopy and lights. Either way yoj sjould be looking at 20 lbs easy @ 2 1/2 per DE fixture. What kind of hoods do the nanolux models have available ? I would think the open or wider footprint might be better than a focused beem reflector. Good luck, i hope you do a grow diary.

 

[Mr.Xagain]

Oh, yeah the dude ommp has vids on youtube if your interested in the raised coco beds with irrigation lines. PEACE.

 

[sdgrower]

That is a great set up. Realistically I would guess the first few runs will be 2 #'s per bed working up to 3 # plus per bed when you get everything dialed. All strain and veg time dependent. Look forward to watching you blow tis room up.

 

[Mike Hawk]

Thanks guys. I am debating beds vs pots on the raised tables. Either one will be an automated top drop drain to waste setup. I hear on the beds you feed less often like every couple day whereas the pots would be fed multiple times daily once in full swing. Also the ability to recycle the coco with beds on top of the added root space. Bottom line is i'm looking for the best yield within my space.

 

[sdgrower]

Do you have a separate area to veg the beds before flowering them out? If you do beds are the way to go, if not your turn around time will be quicker with 2 gallon pots.

 

[Herb Forester]

I recently did a test with a a single 4x6 tray-bed in a room that's normally all 8 gallon smartpots with 6 per tray. The bed took almost a week longer to finish and the pots yielded more (same pre-veg and veg times). It seemed like something wasn't dialed in, although the bed plants were just as healthy but a little less vigorous.

Could've been the watering schedules, but for this workspace I decided I prefer the pots. I know you can do it in 2gal pots with constant fertigation, but I think bigger pots leave much more room for error and the bigger root space adds yield.

 

[Superbeasto]

I recently did a test with a a single 4x6 tray-bed in a room that's normally all 8 gallon smartpots with 6 per tray. The bed took almost a week longer to finish and the pots yielded more (same pre-veg and veg times). It seemed like something wasn't dialed in, although the bed plants were just as healthy but a little less vigorous.

Could've been the watering schedules, but for this workspace I decided I prefer the pots. I know you can do it in 2gal pots with constant fertigation, but I think bigger pots leave much more room for error and the bigger root space adds yield.

Yes, but what about all the labor involved with the pots (especially the fabric kind!) ? Harvest requires cleaning out the smart pots with root matter stuck to each one and all the handling and mess! From what what I've read from the ones in the know on here- for harvest with beds just grip and rip, replace hole with some enzymes and new plant, set timer to 18hours for a couple weeks to let the new plant roots establish the bed then flip!

6 3x6 beds with 60 plants is much easier to maintain and harvest than 60 plants in pots or even 40 imo. I'd rather be set back a couple weeks per year than deal with the mess of all them pots. I hate cleaning up and for me it's a no brainer.

 

[Mike Hawk]

Do you have a separate area to veg the beds before flowering them out? If you do beds are the way to go, if not your turn around time will be quicker with 2 gallon pots.

I don't have a separate veg area. With ether scenario, I was planning on just a two week veg like others I've seen here and then flip. I will be doing mostly og's and stretchy hybrids so things should fill up nicely.

Yes, but what about all the labor involved with the pots (especially the fabric kind!) ? Harvest requires cleaning out the smart pots with root matter stuck to each one and all the handling and mess! From what what I've read from the ones in the know on here- for harvest with beds just grip and rip, replace hole with some enzymes and new plant, set timer to 18hours for a couple weeks to let the new plant roots establish the bed then flip!

6 3x6 beds with 60 plants is much easier to maintain and harvest than 60 plants in pots or even 40 imo. I'd rather be set back a couple weeks per year than deal with the mess of all them pots. I hate cleaning up and for me it's a no brainer.

Great point with the ease of cleanup/harvest in beds vs pots, as well as the recyclability of the coco. I just don't have any experience with beds yet and I blow sh*t up currently with daily multi feeds in 2 gallon pots. I've never seen any yield comparisons though. Also from what I've seen you don't water as often in beds..

 

[Herb Forester]

Yes, but what about all the labor involved with the pots (especially the fabric kind!) ? Harvest requires cleaning out the smart pots with root matter stuck to each one and all the handling and mess! From what what I've read from the ones in the know on here- for harvest with beds just grip and rip, replace hole with some enzymes and new plant, set timer to 18hours for a couple weeks to let the new plant roots establish the bed then flip!

6 3x6 beds with 60 plants is much easier to maintain and harvest than 60 plants in pots or even 40 imo. I'd rather be set back a couple weeks per year than deal with the mess of all them pots. I hate cleaning up and for me it's a no brainer.

I agree beds can have advantages depending on your work style, but they also carry risk and different methods than pots, especially for someone brand new to this scale. Plus the size plants he's growing with quick veg times could benefit from the more restricted root space. I just shared my little project as an example to consider, and ideally I'd prefer to do more beds myself, but current circumstances don't allow the vigilance needed to make it happen.

I don't have a separate veg area. With ether scenario, I was planning on just a two week veg like others I've seen here and then flip. I will be doing mostly og's and stretchy hybrids so things should fill up nicely.



Great point with the ease of cleanup/harvest in beds vs pots, as well as the recyclability of the coco. I just don't have any experience with beds yet and I blow sh*t up currently with daily multi feeds in 2 gallon pots. I've never seen any yield comparisons though. Also from what I've seen you don't water as often in beds..

Watering frequency can be a big factor for yield and finishing times. The most important difference in my opinion is the risk of disease/pathogen/pest transference from infected or underperforming plants. At least while you get a feel for all your other new variables, pots could be a familiar link to help scale what you already do well. But if you decide to do beds I'll definitely grab a seat and learn :party1: