Kansas Holds Children Of Colorado Veteran Who Uses Medical Marijuana

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Kansas holds children of Colorado veteran who uses medical marijuana
Colorado parents Raymond and Amelia Schwab lost custody of their kids but say they've done nothing wrong
By David Olinger
The Denver Post

POSTED: 01/13/2016 04:59:36 PM MST264
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Raymond Schwab, an honorably discharged veteran, moved to Colorado last year to get treated for post-traumatic stress and chronic pain with medical marijuana.

He didn't expect Kansas would take his children in return.

"They're basically using my kids as a pawn to take away freedoms I fought for," he said. "It's a horrible position to put me in."

He and his wife, Amelia, say Kansas took the five youngest of their six children into custody last April, and they've only seen them three times since.

"I don't think what we're doing is illegal, immoral or wrong," Amelia said.

The Schwabs' case highlights how differences in marijuana laws can make a legal user in one state an unfit parent across the border.

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Veteran Raymond Schwab and his wife Amelia are pictured on January 13, 2016 in Denver, Colorado. Raymond, who suffers PTSD, came to Colorado to use medical marijuana to help treat his PTSD. Because of this the state of Kansas, where he lived, took away his kids. He is fighting to get them back. (Helen H. Richardson, The Denver Post)
They're not the only Kansas parents at risk of losing their children over cannabis use. In Garden City, medical marijuana advocate Shona Banda was arrested on child-endangerment and felony drug charges after her 11-year-old son talked about his mother's drug use at school.

Kansas has rejected legislative efforts to permit medical marijuana use. Colorado legalized medical marijuana, then passed a referendum that allows recreational use as well.


Child welfare officials in Kansas did not return phone calls Wednesday concerning the Schwabs.

Raymond Schwab is a 40-year-old Gulf War veteran. He served from 1994 to 1996 in the Navy and later qualified for a 50 percent disability rating.

He lived in Colorado when the state legalized medical marijuana and obtained his own card.

He also tried to treat his symptoms with an assortment of medicines prescribed by the Department of Veterans Affairs — pain medicines, muscle relaxants, anti-anxiety drugs — but "they were making me crazy, they made me worse," he said.

Finally he developed a heroin addiction, but said he overcame that years ago with cannabis therapy.

The turning point in his family life began with a VA job offer in 2013. He went to Topeka to work as a benefits agent for fellow veterans.

"I loved it. I loved my job," he said tearfully.

But two years later, he decided to transfer to a VA job in Denver, where medical cannabis is legal. That's when a family squabble led to the loss of five children aged 5 to 16.

Raymond and Amelia say that as they were packing to leave, her mother took the kids to a police station in another county and reported them abandoned, an action her mother now regrets.

Nine months later, they say, child-protection workers and a Kansas judge are demanding that they give up cannabis if they want their kids back.

One condition, they say, is four months of drug-free urinalysis tests, including a drug legal in Colorado for therapeutic uses.

Raymond remains skeptical and worried. "What if I didn't make it through four months?" he asked. He fears his condition might worsen without cannabis.

He and his wife question why Kansas child-protection workers are holding onto children who should not have entered their system in the first place.

Among the documents Raymond carries in a battered briefcase is the one-page result of a Kansas child-abuse investigation.

It shows that in April 2015, the state began investigating allegations that Raymond and Amelia emotionally abused all five children. Three months later, those allegations were dismissed as unsubstantiated.

So, "why do you still have my children?" he asked.

David Olinger: 303-954-1498, [email protected] or @dolingerdp

Video here.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29381231/kansas-holds-children-colorado-veteran-who-uses-medical

this so bullshit , just break of a family over osmething not even hurtfull. I didnt even get to meet my pop till i was 42 after he did 25 years for weed. 8 in mexico.
 
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For those of you who get Viceland (TV channel), Krishna did a whole program on Kansas and how they are using thier foster system as a money machine by being the lead state in seizing kids. According to a social worker interviewed approximately 65% of the kids taken are cases where it is completely uncalled for. It is all about money and keeping their government jobs appearing to be much more relevant than they really are. It is also to keep the mostly bible thumping foster homes funded. I am a Libertarian as well as a lifetime Christian and I do not agree with this unethical BS. It is legalized kidnapping and just like the justice (injustice) system it has become a money machine and loves to get it's claws on people. The next big push will be DUII and how to criminalize the behavior of medical cannabis patients and tag them all as intoxicated drivers.

Of course it will never happen but the government needs to get out of peoples lives.

DP

 
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I watched that vice land show weediquette! It's so good and ironic. Kansas is the devil. If you haven't seen the episode "the war on drugs" about a man serving 13.3 yrs for 2 joints. The part where he talks to his public defender brought tears to my eyes.
 
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So sad they can take a mans family for marijuana when they go home a drink gut rotting moonshine and beat their "loved" ones. I saw from that show that they say it's not marijuana but, it is they just put it in another category. Like unfit home etc. It's their way of taking those who don't make them enough taxes and making a profit off them another way. It's all a game in the end, how a person has a price on their head per night spent in these places and that they'll overcrowd these places until their pawning us off to smaller prisons for less amount of dollars per night. Doing so by cutting schooling, quality of food, everything. That weediquette show is really good. I hate tv other than watching cops but I've been recording all of these.
 
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And same for these child services etc. we are walking dollar signs to these fucking pigs. This nation has us scared. In the end nothing changes because of fear. Power.
 
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We were called united states of America and I overstand why they pushed so hard for that illusion. The truth is we as states are so very much devided, and maybe, rightfully so....
 
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Boycott Kansas! Fuck them! Power of the purse but it only works if you write to them and tell them why their products are boycotted. This has no place in America.

http://www.stategiftsusa.com/made-in-kansas

Koch Brothers Products:
Angel Soft, Quilted Northern, and Soft n' Gentle are toilet paper and facial tissue brands.
Brawny, Dixie, Insulair, Mardi Gras, PerfecTouch, Sparkle, Ultra, and Vanity Fair are tableware, paper towel and napkin brands.
Advantage, Image Plus, and Spectrum are office paper brands.
Tony's Pizza: Salina, Kansas Frozen pizza plus pizza for cafeterias and restaurants
Daisy Co. Hummingbird Feeders, sold by Wal-Mart. Made at Ferguson Production in KS. Made 10 million feeders last year.
Pioneer Balloon Co., Wichita, is the nation's largest manufacturer of latex and Microfoil balloons
 
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Awe...Tony's is one of the upper echelons of terrible frozen pizza. What will we ever do without it.

Kansas really is the worst place I have ever been. It does make a mighty good case for rejecting conservative views though. How are the tax cuts working out, have the economic booms happened. Oh...your cutting education again, yes slashing R&D is always a great plan.
 
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Awe...Tony's is one of the upper echelons of terrible frozen pizza. What will we ever do without it.

Kansas really is the worst place I have ever been. It does make a mighty good case for rejecting conservative views though. How are the tax cuts working out, have the economic booms happened. Oh...your cutting education again, yes slashing R&D is always a great plan.

I don't think it is so much conservative vs. liberal but doing the right thing for the country at the right time at every possible opportunity. Our political elite have made politics into a giant for profit game and it is driven by self interest of the political class and not about and for the people. The politically powerful and the elite media want to divide us but it is up to us to see our way out of the problems in a different way. With the current divided 2 main party system we have no way out. If you really think the liberal side cares about people think again because both parties are motivated by power and greed and only set policies based on preserving that power and money. Each party secretly regards it's supporters as "useful Idiots" in the end.

One of the biggest issues for me is compassion. Neither system has the compassion to recognize the medical value of cannabis and therefore is hurting people everyday with lies, arrests, seizures of property and kids as well as ridiculous laws about a harmless plant.

What I can say is that everyone I meet in the Cannabis community are some of the nicest people I have ever met and some of the most compassionate kindest people ever. Yet another lie of the government is always spinning: Cannabis growers are evil drug lords.

DP
 
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You are right. ...I just really hate kansas.

Tony's pizza is the real tragedy tho :puke2:
 

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