White Bumps And Leaf Curl W Rust Spots And Holes

[Greendemon]

Growing in Mother Earth coco using
H&G auqa flakes ,calmag,vitomino

Plants will start looking good and within a couple days get white bumps appear in on the tops of the leaves which leads to leaf curling and some parts of the leaf disappear like a big ate em
Also those spots turn into rusted looking holes on my leaves.

Thought broad mites or something but can't see shit
I Have not looked with scope or microscope

I picked the majority of the damaged stuff off the tops and within five days noticed big white marks on the leaves of newer growth

I'm really at a loss here

Can it be
High PH
Silica toxicity
Broad or some type of really really really small bug
Fungus?
Something in the nutes or not in

Any help would be awesome

 

[DrMcSkunkins]

Seen any fuzzy white moth looking little things?

 

[Greendemon]

Seen any fuzzy white moth looking little things?

No sir very vigilant about all bugs in the area
And have not seen a fricking thing
Nothing flying nothing in coco or pots
Thought a earwig or something but none not 1 found

 

[Toaster79]

Looks mostly mechanical damage to me.

 

[PharmHand]

Looks mostly mechanical damage to me.

Yea that's what I thought it looked like. Wind or spray damage or maybe water got on it under bright light or something sharp/hard abraided it. Other leaves/growth don't look deficient at all

 

[xenon730]

is there a fan or wind source really closely, strongly, and/or constantly blowing on the affected areas?

 

[Greendemon]

is there a fan or wind source really closely, strongly, and/or constantly blowing on the affected areas?

This is possible yes just one aimed in that direction

 

[jumpincactus]

This is possible yes just one aimed in that direction

you want to keep fans from blowing constantly in the same spot. A waving gentle breeze across the entire canopy. You will piss your gurls off if they have wind blowing in the same spot all the time. This also forces the plant to transpire more and get wind burned and just causes all around stress.

 

[xenon730]

This is possible yes just one aimed in that direction

seen similar before from a really close fan. try removing it and see if everything stops.

 

[Greendemon]

Really appreciate this help I will do so and update you guys in the next coming days the damage appeared quick within five days of me removing previous infected leaves and material

 

[rascali]

don't know what it is, never even heard of it, but I would bet your Vitamin0 has cooked your goose. although some of that deformed leaf is probably micro deficiencies, most of it looks like the kind of hormonal disarray caused by Superthrive type additives. Not Good, doesn't flush well and it makes for leafy open bud.
If I may rant on - No, you can't fool Mother Nature, and additives do not make the grower. I have never ever seen a good grower win out with grow-store brass rings...

 

[Greendemon]

Looking at the coco I found these and a bug smaller crawling out of the coco on the top
What kind of root bugs could cause that damage ?

 

[Greendemon]

Root aphids

 

[Toaster79]

Root aphids

Not in this case. Root aphids have two tail pipes which are missing in that pic. It's an aphid but but not root aphid.

 

[Greendemon]

Not in this case. Root aphids have two tail pipes which are missing in that pic. It's an aphid but but not root aphid.

That's just one of them the others have little wings

 

[FlyinJStable]

Thought I would share my Two Grams cents
I use Mothers charged CoCo and Found that 1st adding a bit of Caps Beanies w a bit of Compost tea while It sits in a tote
at minimum of 14 days when ya 1st look in tote small fuzzed up spots indicate the beanies and the Micro Organisms have done there job by eating up the larger insects and Misc critters that may have been chillin in the Coco on its trip to where ever ya end up. it also lets ya know whats init to start
Keep the feeding light at 1st as the Coco is Mothers? are you using the pre charged ?
shouldnt need but your Basic nutes ONLY !
Temp below 80 Oscillating fan that keeps light movement on the Vegging fan leaves in your Garden of green.

IMHO 5.6 to 5.7 pH
76-78 Degree
lights 5000-6700k T5 HO's in VEG
HPS 1000 w a few added Far Red UV supplementation in Flower...
Peace
FlyJ
P.S. You can add the Caps Beanies at any time veg or flower Check it out......

 

[Greendemon]

After 5 days of aggressive root washing

The new growth is still doing the same shit
Leaf curl ,missing leaf parts ,holes in the leaf

 

[dan1989]

Do you have a dehumidifier in there?

 

[Greendemon]

N

Do you have a dehumidifier in there?

no sir I do not :(

 

[xenon730]

just a heads up, don't remove affected leaves until the problems solved. rather have them get worse than have it start on the next lowest leaves. if it's a plant issue and you remove affected leaves, the symptoms will move to new leaves and begin there. also, the cannabis plant is capable of removing leaves itself and necrotizing them for nutrition. i believe if they weren't useful to her in some way(including just not throwing away what took so much energy to create) she would shed them herself. besides only 15% of surface affected on some of those leaves, meaning they probably photosynthesize fine, especially because they're still a good green.

did you cut back on feed ppm and rinse medium? did you move that fan? i see a little nute burn and some wind damage. can you get us more photos? maybe of the white bumps you say come first? could very well be aphids/pests in the roots. what do you feed exactly right now?