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Lets start this out by saying.. in this green world of growing i am still germinating! Ha! Well i guess ive sprouted a bit. Been watching some friends progress in soil and one thing im noticing is fluffy buds. Is there a way you can always have dense buds?
 
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Genetics also play a role in bud structure. Some strains just won’t develop dense bud sites. Others will do nothing but develop dense budsites if conditions are right. I find kush and indica leaning strains to have the densest buds as they have evolved from climate that promotes that kind of genetic expression.
 
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1200 watt quantum board?
any cheapo light that has an “equivalent” is prob going to leave you disappointed

hps or cmh will do good too.
read the forums, majority of people asking about bud quality are growing with crappy blurples
which coincedentally put off alot of heat lmao.
heat also makes light wispy buds, things making sense?
crap azz blurple=lots of heat+shitty light spectrum = garbage weed> black market garbage= good in some peoples minds so they post about how their bud was good, but not as good as a hps/cmh/qb growers bud
 
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Genetics also play a role in bud structure. Some strains just won’t develop dense bud sites. Others will do nothing but develop dense budsites if conditions are right. I find kush and indica leaning strains to have the densest buds as they have evolved from climate that promotes that kind of genetic expression.

yes thats true too, you are going to get dense buds from a heirloom sativa lol.
but for all intensive purposes this question i am ASSUMING is from someone with a generic bred hybrid who has crapppy lights.
to the OP, if you are feeling like you got ripped off after buying that “full spectrum” led, you did
 
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Genetics and solid growing conditions give you dense buds. Why people are concerned about an essentially cosmetic characteristic is beyond me. Bud density has no relationship to potency.
 
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One cause of fluffy buds I have encountered is deteriorating genetics from amateur pollen chucking.
 
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1200 watt quantum board?
any cheapo light that has an “equivalent” is prob going to leave you disappointed

hps or cmh will do good too.
read the forums, majority of people asking about bud quality are growing with crappy blurples
which coincedentally put off alot of heat lmao.
heat also makes light wispy buds, things making sense?
crap azz blurple=lots of heat+shitty light spectrum = garbage weed> black market garbage= good in some peoples minds so they post about how their bud was good, but not as good as a hps/cmh/qb growers bud
I track what your saying.
 
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these plants have some ph issues i found out what was wrong and screwed some things up
but i squeezed two of the buds today at almost week 5 flower (33 days) and the buds are hard and dense

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yeah i dont think dense buds neccasarily makes them better, i think OP probably was dealing with a bad light that was producing extremely wispy larfy type buds and was trying to avoid that rather than go strictly for dense buds per se
 
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I grow 4-5 strains each grow, indicas and hybrids, and think density is genetic more often than not when all things are equal.
More indica equates to much firmer density, practically rock like for me while hybrids are not as dense but after a long cure have a nice dry sponge like density.
 
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I grow 4-5 strains each grow, indicas and hybrids, and think density is genetic more often than not when all things are equal.
More indica equates to much firmer density, practically rock like for me while hybrids are not as dense but after a long cure have a nice dry sponge like density.

im pretty sure OP is just trying to avoid wispy larf, which is more caused by shitty lights and high heat.
i have a feeling that anything unlarfy is what he meant, not necasarily super dense nug.
a better light would produce better bud is the takeaway on this thread i think.
any of those chinese blurple leds lead to forum posts such as this one, i have read 100’s of them across all the forums i am on
 
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my problem was i was treating soilless like soil, which you cant do.
i am in the process of correcting it now, im sure it will affect my yield but the i think the plant will pull through
 
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Lets start this out by saying.. in this green world of growing i am still germinating! Ha! Well i guess ive sprouted a bit. Been watching some friends progress in soil and one thing im noticing is fluffy buds. Is there a way you can always have dense buds?
Indica produces heavy and dense buds, Sativa's produce much less dense buds. The hybrids of the two sort of follow their hybrid proportions, with more Indica dominance equating with harder and dense buds. This is the general rule of thumb I've followed for a while now. IMHO.
 
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Also if you overfeed with N in veg and early flower the buds cant grow normally,sometimes they are twisted and smaller with dark green leaves and burned tips and they cant get denser till the end.... Too much N can really mess up the flowering even if you stop it meanwhile it stays and poisoning longer.It happens in soil with too much added amendments...…..You just cant back it off even if you want to:)
 
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Also if you overfeed with N in veg and early flower the buds cant grow normally,sometimes they are twisted and smaller with dark green leaves and burned tips and they cant get denser till the end.... Too much N can really mess up the flowering even if you stop it meanwhile it stays and poisoning longer.It happens in soil with too much added amendments...…..You just cant back it off even if you want to:)
As of now.. thanks to a friends mentality that "only the strong survive" i have an assortment.. 3 ak-47, mystery, and skywalker, all from seed; and a gsc from clone. I manage a dispensary and when we portion, if a magic bean falls out, its accounted for, the sprouted if its good. Lol.
 
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what kind of light is producing the undense buds that you are speaking of is the next question
that will probably shed alot more light on this topic
 
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