blue cheese and god bud 400w + 315cmh

[10w30]

Probably 5% runoff, and i let them sit in that tiny bit of runoff. tks

Thanks for that link, im reading it now.

Tried flushing abit. the bottom of the floor smells like a fish tank. watered at 620ppm, stronger a,b nutes for the magnesium and calcium is the hope.

i let some plants sit in runoff (in previous posts) and runoff appears to be 830ppm today .

vented tap water is 148ppm

i think i debuffered the coco and made more surface contact area (messing up the calcium magnesium ratio in the coco) when crumbling the coco from dry compressed bricks (botanicare)

the only post i read on decompressing coco bricks was to do it in a driveway wrapped in a sheet. i didnt go that route.

wish me luck please dude's and dudette's, ive got alot of future riding on this

 

[Farmer P]

Probably 5% runoff, and i let them sit in that tiny bit of runoff. tks

Thanks for that link, im reading it now.

Tried flushing abit. the bottom of the floor smells like a fish tank. watered at 620ppm, stronger a,b nutes for the magnesium and calcium is the hope.

i let some plants sit in runoff (in previous posts) and runoff appears to be 830ppm today .

vented tap water is 148ppm

i think i debuffered the coco and made more surface contact area (messing up the calcium magnesium ratio in the coco) when crumbling the coco from dry compressed bricks (botanicare)

the only post i read on decompressing coco bricks was to do it in a driveway wrapped in a sheet. i didnt go that route.

wish me luck please dude's and dudette's, ive got alot of future riding on this

I've never heard of the driveway method, I just follow the directions on the bale. You don't have to decompress it, you just have to re-hydrate it. Get yourself a big bucket put in the bale and add water. The rest happens automatically. Finding the right amount of water is tricky. I can't remember how much but you can start off with less and after it is all soaked up add more. If you end up too wet blow a fan on it until it dries to the right consistency. I store mine in a tote a little on the dry side so it doesn't get funky.

 

[10w30]

flushed them, yellow plants had 900ppm, green plants 120pmm (true i swear, though maybe i misread the pen)

i need a kitty litter container to flush them properly.

expensive canna nutes flushed through at 700ppm

thank you dude for the input, still reading

just for giggles the driveway method is in search. i do take medication though

Search results for query: coco, driveway

 

[Beachwalker]

flushed them, yellow plants had 900ppm, green plants 120pmm (true i swear, though maybe i misread the pen)

I'm assuming you're aware that PPM meters have a 10x function?

 

[m8ty]

Too much light yellowing?

 

[Kampbe1l]

assuming that you're using pH buffer 7.0 and 4.0 each time you make measurements, to calibrate your HM-80 pH pen....and use electrode storage solution for sponge inside the cap.....

 

[Farmer P]

You can also look into cheaper nutrients. I've used all kinds and found them to be almost identical as far as results. It's jsut a matter of figuring out how much to use to get the same ppm's. Right now I'm using powdered jacks two part marijuana specific nutes. I buy a gallon of distilled water and dump in the right amount of powder and it costs pennies per quart instead of the $10 I was paying for canna. Lol 10 was actually a good deal, most were selling it for $30. Lots of people here are using megacrop with good results. Happy Growing!

 

[Farmer P]

I believe you can get a free sample of megacrop. Go down a little on this page.

MEGA CROP – Greenleaf Nutrients

greenleafnutrients.com

 

[Farmer P]

One last tip. Keep those canna bottles to put your new cheaper mix in.

 

[10w30]

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[Dirtbag]

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What's goin on there bud? Looks like somethings off hey?

Why are ya letting it sit in the runoff btw? You should really let that drain away from the media. If you let her sit in the swamp water you can get root issues.

Looks like your plants roots arent feeding for one reason or another, either the right ratio of food isnt there at the right ph or the roots themselves have been compromised somehow, salt lockout or root rot or something. Its either nutrient related or root health related. Figuring out which is the first step in diagnosing this.

 

[Farmer P]

What's goin on there bud? Looks like somethings off hey?

Why are ya letting it sit in the runoff btw? You should really let that drain away from the media. If you let her sit in the swamp water you can get root issues.

Looks like your plants roots arent feeding for one reason or another, either the right ratio of food isnt there at the right ph or the roots themselves have been compromised somehow, salt lockout or root rot or something. Its either nutrient related or root health related. Figuring out which is the first step in diagnosing this.

I think they are looking good and growing fast. They've greened up and doubled in size in the last week. Keep it up.

 

[10w30]

still having problems.

earth worm castings in the coco may be causing pH swings.

i noticed the mixed canna nutrients form an ice on the top of water jug (i dont like that)

i went to the hydro store yesterday and discussed, wanted to switch to botanicare nutes, unfortunitely spent another $75 on canna only to have them look like crap after yet another watering.

 

[Farmer P]

Always mix the nutes fresh. Or,.... You can put them in the fridge and then re-warm them. I would NOT pour that mixture on my plants!! I still see a lot of dry coco. Canna nutes are great there is no problem with them. Don't mix while stoned and be extra carefull to be exactly accurate. Its easy to make mistakes. If you mix right and your ph meter is right, and you keep the coco wet with fresh nutes daily dumping (down the toilet or in your yard on your rose bushes) at least (preferable 20 percent) 10 percent runoff your plants will thrive. If not you have bad coco or you are making mistakes. Sorry to be so blunt but I promise that unless someone doctored your canna nutes, you are causing the problem somehow. I would start by mixing fresh nutes and being extra carefull, double checking everything and putting enough in to get 30 to 50 percent runoff. then backoff to 20 percent for a few days then 10 to 15 or even 20. If you won't buy cheaper nutes or bite the bullet and use the expensive ones the right way you may want to switch to dirt. If you do switch to dirt then use FFOF and don't put any nutes in until your plants start to show you they need it.

 

[Farmer P]

I have also used botanicare coco and it is also some of the best.
You are using the best nutes and the best coco.
Actually canna coco is at least equal with the botan. I like it better.

 

[Farmer P]

Are you ph-ing to 5.8?

 

[10w30]

Yahooo!

The pH pen has been reset, and i'm now using it to measure properly. thanks for this./updates. the plants look over tired at the and of 18hrs light.

the hydro shop mentioned that i should have an air stone in the nutrient mixture. though didnt upsell me a pump and stone. grateful somewhat

the plants look ok at the beginning of the day, after 18hrs of light they look exhausted. wilting but not dried out.
i think its the compressed coco in the pots, the pots are very heavy with coco and water, the roots not pushing through exhausts them(?)

pH swings, compressed coco not being flushed with each nutrient feeding, and just not using the pH pen has hurt me.

earth worm casting shouldnt be in the coco. it was a 15yo suggestion. i used botanicare nutes back then in coco with earth worm castings and it turned out ok. its not a 2020 recipe i see online. now its small pots and cheap nutes lol - for the free nutes above, shipping is $20 (reasonable)

thanks for feedback. its a daily swing from good to bad. honestly thought about chopping them yesterday and moving to cheaper rent.


Nutes pH'd at 6.2 -6.3 as per hydro store recommendation. (hydro store suggestion 15years ago was 6.5) 5.8 is new advice and am thinking about it. what ever it is, 6.2 or 5.8 im going to use the pen everytime and to keep the pH steadier than its been.

Canna a/b $16.95x2
rhizotonic $44.95? and 24.95
cannazym $14.95 and 44.95
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waiting to use Cannaboost $137.95
and PK Boost $14.95?


On the Canna site im pretty sure (in a video) it says the nutrients should sit before use, so im waiting 20-30mins up to 1 hours after mixing before putting on plants.
icing effect takes about 12hrs to show.


I was in a delema on wether to spend $30 on Pure blend pro soil/coco, $30 on calcium magnesium and $45? on Botanicare Kind.

I went to a First Nations dispencery 2 days ago. the weed is still super expensive, dry, brown, however they are selling the Mighty Vape for $250. i think if they advertised that price from the road sign or online, they would get sales. I can't afford one, my Solo 1 is still functioning ok with the shorter arizer tube.

no offence taken on any feedback, all you guys are trying to help. i was thinking this was going to be a pretty successful run, using expensive nutes and lights, however being the pot head rookie i am, im really appreciating the socialism and the help on this being successful.

pH'ing the water now using the pen (its been reset to 7 and 4) (Canna nutes @ ~800ppm)

 

[Farmer P]

Right on, glad to see you're back on track and I like the positive attitude. I'm pretty sure it's the rhizzo that causes the water to get so funky. Try smelling that stuff sometime lol. To be honest you really don't need it. I have a bottle that's been sitting for a year. I'll probably dump it outside at some point. If you must use it maybe you could put it in at the last minute, (recheck ph) I think that would help your water to stay clean. I also have a small bottle of boost that's full and I've had it for over a year. You can grow great looking plants with just the a and b. If you continue to have problems I would try that for a while. Forget about any addatives. I use a and b plus 1ml per gallon silica and 1.25 cal mag and that's it. Seems to work really well. When you're struggling it helps to simplify. The range for coco is 5.8 to 6.2. I like to run 5.9. And when your mixture sits the ph can change so watch out for that. Running an airstone will add dissolved oxygen which will change the ph significantly. If you have time to mix fresh every time that's best. That way also if you accidentally mess up a batch it is only used once and the next day a better one goes in so the problem doesn't build. Just some Ideas. Good luck!

 

[10w30]

thanks for the help all. im on medication and its been tough. i didnt know the ppm meter had a 10x function, it did cross my mind, just didnt connect the dots. i think thats an indication of how this grow is going in general. mahahaahahaaaaaaa

 

[Farmer P]

Gotta be carefull with those meters. Generally you'll want to cut what you read on that chart in half. That chart is for the most tolerant plants grown in the most perfect conditions. You can cut down to 1/4 sometimes. I never used it at full strength. A lot of guys run 600 to 700 ppm the whole way through flower. Have you switched the light schedule to 12 on 12 off yet? If not you might want to since you will run out of space if they stretch a lot. Looks like you are running some pretty strong lights. If they get too close they will get fried. Maybe throw in a net to keep them down? Good luck.