Amber Trichomes over 50% at Day 45 of Flowering. Ready?

[MIMedGrower]

Coconut oil is for baked edibles. I also keep kief from my screened trim trays.

 

[weedtech]

they all grow just a little different.

This is important.

Phenotype

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[Ryboburton]

Yes I use ice cold water in my flush it brings the wooly coat event as I call it makes the crystal glitter .od

First I’ve heard of this and my girls will be getting harvested one day lol. What’s the story with using ice water what’s it do and why. Thanks

 

[MIMedGrower]

First I’ve heard of this and my girls will be getting harvested one day lol. What’s the story with using ice water what’s it do and why. Thanks

Myth.

 

[threatco]

Myth.

Would you say it's a busted myth? Or just an unproven one?

It seems a reasonable assumption, given the evolutionary reason for trichomes. Is it a stretch to assume that cold leaves or roots could trigger a defense mechanism that leads to increased trichome production?

TBH I have never seen any evidence one way or another beyond an opinion article.

 

[SPARECHANGE]

First I’ve heard of this and my girls will be getting harvested one day lol. What’s the story with using ice water what’s it do and why. Thanks

ask em to elaborate

Amber Trichomes over 50% at Day 45 of Flowering. Ready?

A bit longer, if you have not flushed it out use cold water this will turn your pistols or if you did flush out ( i do about 10 days before chop) and it wants water give it cold water to turn your pistols, i would think done in next 10 days or so in my opinion, nice pics you must have a good camera.

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[MIMedGrower]

Would you say it's a busted myth? Or just an unproven one?

It seems a reasonable assumption, given the evolutionary reason for trichomes. Is it a stretch to assume that cold leaves or roots could trigger a defense mechanism that leads to increased trichome production?

TBH I have never seen any evidence one way or another beyond an opinion article.

No matter how many plants i grow the stressed ones are never as potent as a healthy one to the end.

Also its what is in the trichomes that counts. Not the amount of them.

 

[Aqua Man]

I mean there is no data one way or the other IMO. However I doo feel lowering grow room temps and in turn root and plant temps helps preserve terps and flavonoids. Now I have not done a clone to clone study or any of that but IME it seems to help. I do however believe that stress can improve the potency but it's IMO not all stresses that do this.

 

[threatco]

It makes sense to want happy healthy plants to grow weight. But in the last week before harvest, I do buy into the theory that you can sacrifice overall metabolic activity in order to trigger the plant to focus on end of season survival which in turn leads to higher potency, either through accelerating maturation of existing trichomes, or possibly growing new trichomes.

I would love to see some evidence based data on this though.

Med, when you say your healthy plants turn out more potent, is that based on smokers reporting or lab tests? Just curious

 

[Aqua Man]

It makes sense to want happy healthy plants to grow weight. But in the last week before harvest, I do buy into the theory that you can sacrifice overall metabolic activity in order to trigger the plant to focus on end of season survival which in turn leads to higher potency, either through accelerating maturation of existing trichomes, or possibly growing new trichomes.

I would love to see some evidence based data on this though.

Med, when you say your healthy plants turn out more potent, is that based on smokers reporting or lab tests? Just curious

I'm not convinced either of the cold shock to roots... No more than the boiling water to roots. Tbh I don't believe any shock methods work to necessarily increase potency. By shock I mean the instant changes. I do believe for example a consistent stress like UVB can have an affect.

Here is why... Plant responses are already programmed into the plant to deal with stresses be it consistent or acute. I can't see a plant having a response other than stress and damage that usually has a negative consequence to an acute root temp change simply because evolution has not introduced it. Now with a consistent lowering or increase of temps overall that another story. There are some acute stresses that may benefit the plants but I don't believe potency. I feel like the more we learn about how the plant responds to stress in environment the more we can exploit them

I'm just kinda putting thoughts out and my reasons for them. By no means am I claiming it's fact.

 

[threatco]

In my cold water to roots theory, I would keep giving the roots below 12c water until harvest. Not icy water one time.

I don't have any evidence to base this on to be clear the closest thing I can find from what I consider a reliable source is related to the changing of coloration

 

[MIMedGrower]

It makes sense to want happy healthy plants to grow weight. But in the last week before harvest, I do buy into the theory that you can sacrifice overall metabolic activity in order to trigger the plant to focus on end of season survival which in turn leads to higher potency, either through accelerating maturation of existing trichomes, or possibly growing new trichomes.

I would love to see some evidence based data on this though.

Med, when you say your healthy plants turn out more potent, is that based on smokers reporting or lab tests? Just curious

When i stopped killing them off early with too much pk and switched to a grow ratio to the end i was still “donating” to a dispensary. The lab tests they did showed higher potency for the plants that were going longer than the previous ones tested.

But they got raided and arrested and my real improvements came later as i gained experience.

So yes and no. I dont have the lab tests they were on file at the dispensary. And like you said now i only have smokers reports and my own opinion.

And if i have a yellowed nutrient stressed plant at finish no one ever compliments the flowers like with a green healthy one. Always denser and more resinous when healthy.

 

[threatco]

When i stopped killing them off early with too much pk and switched to a grow ratio to the end i was still “donating” to a dispensary. The lab tests they did showed higher potency for the plants that were going longer than the previous ones tested.

But they got raided and arrested and my real improvements came later as i gained experience.

So yes and no. I dont have the lab tests they were on file at the dispensary. And like you said now i only have smokers reports and my own opinion.

And if i have a yellowed nutrient stressed plant at finish no one ever compliments the flowers like with a green healthy one. Always denser and more resinous when healthy.

Makes sense. I still have a ways to go to master not messing up nutrient balance all the way to harvest day. That is the goal.

I have no doubt Healthy Green beautiful looking weed is way better than this yellow burnt up stuff I'm growing but that comparison aside do you not put any stock in the possibility that changing the ideal growing conditions at some point very close to harvest is not beneficial?

 

[Aqua Man]

In my cold water to roots theory, I would keep giving the roots below 12c water until harvest. Not icy water one time.

I don't have any evidence to base this on to be clear the closest thing I can find from what I consider a reliable source is related to the changing of coloration

Ok I can see that. I'm just not sure why just the roots? I mean I know you don't have the answer just tossing it out there. I can't discount that it doesn't but just can't seem to think of any scientific correlation to how that may increase potency. Again I'm not saying it doesn't. I find cooler temps affect colors and just seem to keep a bit more ooomf in the smell factor. I haven't actually compared trich damage from temp difference because I don't wanna waste a crop to prove something I believe and has some scientific support also likely has no real negative impact from the amount I reduce them

 

[threatco]

Trimmed up the fans. Got them in a colder room. Took the blurple out. Figured the extra UV is not worth the added heat. Keeping it under 18c in there now.

 

[threatco]

Ok I can see that. I'm just not sure why just the roots? I mean I know you don't have the answer just tossing it out there. I can't discount that it doesn't but just can't seem to think of any scientific correlation to how that may increase potency. Again I'm not saying it doesn't. I find cooler temps affect colors and just seem to keep a bit more ooomf in the smell factor. I haven't actually compared trich damage from temp difference because I don't wanna waste a crop to prove something I believe and has some scientific support also likely has no real negative impact from the amount I reduce them

My guess is from an evolutionary perspective the plant doesn't want to waste resources because of a windy day or a cold rain it wants to know that the ground temperature is changed

 

[Aqua Man]

Trimmed up the fans. Got them in a colder room. Took the blurple out. Figured the extra UV is not worth the added heat. Keeping it under 18c in there now.

What UV are you running?

 

[MIMedGrower]

In my cold water to roots theory, I would keep giving the roots below 12c water until harvest. Not icy water one time.

I don't have any evidence to base this on to be clear the closest thing I can find from what I consider a reliable source is related to the changing of coloration

In my experience purpled plants are almost always less potent. I experimented a lot with a pow33 that purpled with lower temps. The one grown green was the favorite every time.

I have heard this often with bubba kush. Less potent when purple.

And @Aqua Man the uvb increasing amount of trichomes but only thc gets higher sure proves the trichomes protect the plant from the suns uv but in my opinion higher thc without the other cannabanoids does not make better effects.

I believe the only way to improve the weed is to grow it to its potential or as close as possible. Shortening flowering, speeding up ripening, shocking and stressing plants all work against this goal.

I say this realizing other crops may benefit from training or stress.

 

[MIMedGrower]

Makes sense. I still have a ways to go to master not messing up nutrient balance all the way to harvest day. That is the goal.

I have no doubt Healthy Green beautiful looking weed is way better than this yellow burnt up stuff I'm growing but that comparison aside do you not put any stock in the possibility that changing the ideal growing conditions at some point very close to harvest is not beneficial?

No i think letting them grow and produce cannabanoids as long
as it takes is best.

All of the tactics i have ever heard were really to speed this up and make money sooner.

 

[Aqua Man]

In my experience purpled plants are almost always less potent. I experimented a lot with a pow33 that purpled with lower temps. The one grown green was the favorite every time.

I have heard this often with bubba kush. Less potent when purple.

And @Aqua Man the uvb increasing amount of trichomes but only thc gets higher sure proves the trichomes protect the plant from the suns uv but in my opinion higher thc without the other cannabanoids does not make better effects.

I believe the only way to improve the weed is to grow it to its potential or as close as possible. Shortening flowering, speeding up ripening, shocking and stressing plants all work against this goal.

I say this realizing other crops may benefit from training or stress.

I absolutely agree other cannabinoids are extremely important. I have read plenty of things to be convinced that they are responsible for a lot more than we thought including the high we get.

I think we are going to see more info on overall compounds in the next few years.

Caretenoids, anthocyanins etc