Aqua Man planning organics (Questions)

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Ok so the grow after next i will be doing an organic coco grow. Here is the plans/options im looking at in terms of complete nutrients. How I will be applying them is up in the air but likely a combination of half dose scratched in and a low dose tea with each watering autofeed with no runoff. Likely 2-3gal pots

Roots organic grow/bloom

Raw microbes grow/bloom.

Cal/mg will still be added.

I have never grown organics and while I understand nutrients im oblivious to the organic sources of each.

Has anyone used this and found it to be adequate?

Is there anything that may need to be added to it?

I'm not looking to make my own nutrients so my goal is to find a proven complete source of organic nutrients in as few different products as possible.
 
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I'm currently running a grow all organics off the nectar of the gods line next grow i start will be a coco run. I would imagine the directions pretty much have your answer most lines have a what time and when type flow chart to follow also. Kinda similar to this I would imagine. Its my first grow running any nutes though so im not sure but I'm very pleased with it so far. I didnt use all the nutes just the four marked by dots. From what im seeing its supposed to be easier to an extent running coco just a little more maintenance water wise.
 
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I'm currently running a grow all organics off the nectar of the gods line next grow i start will be a coco run. I would imagine the directions pretty much have your answer most lines have a what time and when type flow chart to follow also. Kinda similar to this I would imagine. Its my first grow running any nutes though so im not sure but I'm very pleased with it so far. I didnt use all the nutes just the four marked by dots. From what im seeing its supposed to be easier to an extent running coco just a little more maintenance water wise.
Would I be a troll if I said its not all organic because the medusa's magic contains calcium nitrate?
 
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Would I be a troll if I said its not all organic because the medusa's magic contains calcium nitrate?
Maybe to some but..Nope not at all to me I knew one of them made it not technically pure organic just didn't remember what one. But I'm pretty sure its because its the only way for something above my knowledge level. I'm still learning and this my first ever indoor or nutrient grow. Not saying they are the best or even I am close to it but they did good enough for me to stick to them for another run only thing I'm switching is soils to coco
 
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MIMedGrower

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Ok so the grow after next i will be doing an organic coco grow. Here is the plans/options im looking at in terms of complete nutrients. How I will be applying them is up in the air but likely a combination of half dose scratched in and a low dose tea with each watering autofeed with no runoff. Likely 2-3gal pots

Roots organic grow/bloom

Raw microbes grow/bloom.

Cal/mg will still be added.

I have never grown organics and while I understand nutrients im oblivious to the organic sources of each.

Has anyone used this and found it to be adequate?

Is there anything that may need to be added to it?

I'm not looking to make my own nutrients so my goal is to find a proven complete source of organic nutrients in as few different products as possible.

I thought you were going to amend the coco with organic inputs.

you and @Dirtbag are simply using processed plant food?

might as well use pure blend pro and avoid problems. Its just as natural as earth juice or roots organic. Omri is bullshit anyway. And expensive. Thats why earth juice doesnt pay for certification.
 
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Hmmm is roots not organic? Am I missing something?

Liquid or dry? The dry is likely just compost based but the liquids are processed for immediate plant uptake.

but honestly i dont consider plant food even if it says organic natural.

you want to prove coco is great for microbes you should blend an amended soil with castings and inputs in my opinion.

just my opinion. ;-)
 
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Liquid or dry? The dry is likely just compost based but the liquids are processed for immediate plant uptake.

but honestly i dont consider plant food even if it says organic natural.

you want to prove coco is great for microbes you should blend an amended soil with castings and inputs in my opinion.

just my opinion. ;-)
Ita dry and organic.. not already available. Im not sure this is different.
 
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Earth Juice is nothing like pure blend pro. Pbp is ready for immediate uptake and bypasses the microbes all together. EJ contains a large portion of insoluble nutrients that must be broken down by microbes to be usable.

Also I'm using worm castings and gaia green 4-4-4 which is a dry organic ammendment.

I'll be getting into cooked soils a bit more when I have more time to prepare. I didn't have the time this round for making a water only coots mix or super soil.
 
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Earth Juice is nothing like pure blend pro. Pbp is ready for immediate uptake and bypasses the microbes all together. EJ contains a large portion of insoluble nutrients that must be broken down by microbes to be usable.

I'll be getting into cooked soils a bit more when I have more time to prepare. I didn't have the time this round for making a water only coots mix or super soil.

Its bottled weed specific plant food. 6 years ago it was quite the fad in coco at the grow stores.

its mostly plant usable. Can be poured right in the medium.
 
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But I'm doing organic coco with microbes to make the organics available... not super soil. They are different only in the fact one is soil

It comes with its own microbes and is a complete plant food. Im just saying that this isnt any different than a salt based grow in practice in my opinion. It doesnt prove anything. Should work easy like any plant food.

i hear you though. I just dont feel prepared plant food is like a natural grow.

Im still tuned in bud. :-)
 
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It comes with its own microbes and is a complete plant food. Im just saying that this isnt any different than a salt based grow in practice in my opinion. It doesnt prove anything. Should work easy like any plant food.

i hear you though. I just dont feel prepared plant food is like a natural grow.

Im still tuned in bud. :-)
I'm still lost how is it available? Microbes are added for almost any organic grow. They have to be
 
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I'm still lost how is it available? Microbes are added for almost any organic grow. They have to be

Actually they dont. I dont add any to ocean forest and it feeds my plants for 6 weeks with just water.

there is no proof that added microbes are needed at all. Its a retail product sold on bro science.
 
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