Wavy, wrinkled, crinkly looking leaves.

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Another thing that can shock plants is temp difference between the media and feed. With high frequency feeding this is much more of an issue than other styles. Try to keep it within +/- 2f to be ideal.

just dropping things to see if anything catches your eye.
definately plant temps need to come down and I honestly feel there are root issues.

if you skip watering how long does it take for the pots to dry back until light? If you haven’t tried that. I would as it will give you a better idea of how much the plant is actually taking up.
Bro, I can't believe I didn't think about that... My water is well water ran thru an ro system. The water temp is mad cold, I'm talking like 50 degrees. With temps being that high and water that cold, that's definitely creating issues.

I actually have the res filling right now so I cut the watering off. I'll monitor and see what it's looking like over the course of the day. But to answer your question, no not much moisture is pulled out in between feeds. I can definitely tell
 
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Yeah, I was under the impression that was normal, I had no idea surface temp should be that low.

Yeah I have a trolmaster connected to my pump, I can put it wherever.

I did notice the plants aren't losing much moisture in between feedings. Runoff typically occurs after the 3rd feeding. I may be overdoing it. Lowering the Rh will help the plant pull from the medium more right?

The suggestions are great, it's making sense coming from someone else lol I appreciate it.
Yeah the lower humidity should helo them pull more water. Lowering the light reduces the transpiration demand on the roots.
the conditions i gave ya are kind of a recovery effort to reduce the stress and slow any further damage. The most light the more demand on the plants
 
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Bro, I can't believe I didn't think about that... My water is well water ran thru an ro system. The water temp is mad cold, I'm talking like 50 degrees. With temps being that high and water that cold, that's definitely creating issues.

I actually have the res filling right now so I cut the watering off. I'll monitor and see what it's looking like over the course of the day. But to answer your question, no not much moisture is pulled out in between feeds. I can definitely tell
Ok this is a huge question and maybe the biggest reason your having problems…. Does your well water run through a water softener?
 
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Ok this is a huge question and maybe the biggest reason your having problems…. Does your well water run through a water softener?
It goes through my ro system before I mix nutes though. Water comes out 0 and 5.0ph before buffering
 
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It goes through my ro system before I mix nutes though. Water comes out 0 and 5.0ph before buffering
Ok perfect…ok make these changes and lets see where they are in a week. They are definitely stunted so will take time to come around if your game.

The leaves on the plant will get worse and die… thats no issue. Pay attention to new growth.

also let them dry back and try feeding 3-4 times a day. But do not feed atleast 2-4 hrs before lights out only when the lights are on
 
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Ok perfect…ok make these changes and lets see where they are in a week. They are definitely stunted so will take time to come around if your game.

The leaves on the plant will get worse and die… thats no issue. Pay attention to new growth.

also let them dry back and try feeding 3-4 times a day. But do not feed atleast 2-4 hrs before lights out only when the lights are on
Will do, I'll update and put some pictures up on how they're doing. Thanks for the help, I was going crazy on what the issue was. I don't really care to grow multiple strains in one room, but didn't have much of a choice this time. Unfortunately the strain that has the issues, is the strain I have the most of 😂.

Thanks again, solid and insightful information, I really appreciate it.
 
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Will do, I'll update and put some pictures up on how they're doing. Thanks for the help, I was going crazy on what the issue was. I don't really care to grow multiple strains in one room, but didn't have much of a choice this time. Unfortunately the strain that has the issues, is the strain I have the most of 😂.

Thanks again, solid and insightful information, I really appreciate it.
Looking forward to updates.
 
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Just thinking a bit deeper water at lights on then check to feel the pot through the day. If its still heavy wait until the next day and its possible that it may go a couple days before needing watering.

See the thing is for high frequency watering the plant needs to be uptaking the water or else it to can become overwatered in the sense that there is not enough o2 being pulled into the coco.

a plant drinks like a straw… sucks water up and that draws some air in and lrovides gas exchange.

This is about the only time you want to treat coco like soil… give it a wet/dry cycle until it gets back to drinking again. So basically dont water until the pot gets light even if it takes days. I know that goes against all advice and even my own advice but its needed in this situation
 
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Looking forward to updates.
Just checked, my water in my res is 49 degrees 😬 trolmaster allows me to feed up to 48 times in between whatever hours I set.

You thinking more feedings with significantly less water to avoid too much shock from the temps, or just the 3-4 feeds you recommended, spread out through lights on (18 hour veg)?
 
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Just thinking a bit deeper water at lights on then check to feel the pot through the day. If its still heavy wait until the next day and its possible that it may go a couple days before needing watering.

See the thing is for high frequency watering the plant needs to be uptaking the water or else it to can become overwatered in the sense that there is not enough o2 being pulled into the coco.

a plant drinks like a straw… sucks water up and that draws some air in and lrovides gas exchange.

This is about the only time you want to treat coco like soil… give it a wet/dry cycle until it gets back to drinking again. So basically dont water until the pot gets light even if it takes days. I know that goes against all advice and even my own advice but its needed in this situation
Nah I feel you, I'll be up for 6-7 more hours, I'll see how they are before I go to bed, to I doubt they'll need any more until lights off(8 am)
 
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Just checked, my water in my res is 49 degrees 😬 trolmaster allows me to feed up to 48 times in between whatever hours I set.

You thinking more feedings with significantly less water to avoid too much shock from the temps, or just the 3-4 feeds you recommended, spread out through lights on (18 hour veg)?
Yeah once its drinking again go with 250ml feeds as often as needed to get 10% runoffof the input volume (25ml)

i have to feed mine in 1 gal 14x a day at peak. But lets get them dr again first
 
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Nah I feel you, I'll be up for 6-7 more hours, I'll see how they are before I go to bed, to I doubt they'll need any more until lights off(8 am)
Remember dont feed over lights off and-unless drinking a shit ton dont feed withing 2 hrs of lights out
 
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Remember dont feed over lights off and-unless drinking a shit ton dont feed withing 2 hrs of lights out
Yeah my bad I didn't mean it like that, I was just saying I doubt it'll need any water for the rest of it's "day" cycle. I usually start feeds 2 hours after and stop 2 hours before unless I'm in late flower and they're really drinking.
 
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