Webbing of the cannabis leaves

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Hi guys, 80% of my plants have duck foot style webbed leaves, the seeds were bag seed, is it possible that they are a duck foot stabilised strain or have they just mutated? Never have I come across this in person. Thanks guys (I do realise they are not the healthiest as they are looked down apon in my area and can’t tend to them as much as I would like to)
 
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Webbed leaves are a common mutation, and one which various breeders have attempted to stabilise. Such efforts have unfortunately not prevailed to the point where webbed varieties are now commercially available, though. In the past, however, it was possible to source webbed varieties such as Ducksfoot in seed form.”

 
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Webbed leaves are a common mutation, and one which various breeders have attempted to stabilise. Such efforts have unfortunately not prevailed to the point where webbed varieties are now commercially available, though. In the past, however, it was possible to source webbed varieties such as Ducksfoot in seed form.”

I have read just about everything there is to read about it, nothing really tells exactly what causes it, apparently duckfoot seeds are hard to come by so doubt I would of had a bunch of them
 
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I have read just about everything there is to read about it, nothing really tells exactly what causes it, apparently duckfoot seeds are hard to come by so doubt I would of had a bunch of them
You asked a question so I pointed you to answers. If you already read just about everything then why are you asking?

Assuming the bagseed all came from the same source then it carries this genetic trait. You said 80% and then 22 plants are like this, so 22/28 plants have webbed leaves.

It sounds like there isn’t 100% stable duck foot strain but I haven’t read anything about it until now.

Can’t you ask the source of the seeds about it?
 
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Sorry I did write that horribly, the bag seed was just seeds I have collected over the years, so there is no one to ask, i just planted a few of the better looking ones, yes 28 and 22 have turned out like this, I’m nearly positive they all couldn’t be the same strain, thought I may have done something wrong to cause it. Sorry if I come off rude before.
 
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Sorry I did write that horribly, the bag seed was just seeds I have collected over the years, so there is no one to ask, i just planted a few of the better looking ones, yes 28 and 22 have turned out like this, I’m nearly positive they all couldn’t be the same strain, thought I may have done something wrong to cause it. Sorry if I come off rude before.
No worries. It’s 4am and I’m hoping I can sleep soon. Get grumpy when I can’t sleep.

Anyhow back to your question.

Next time give more details as you have now. You’ll get better answers.

If you collected all the seeds over a period of time from different sources and still had this occur then it’s more likely an outside influence. Some stress that is affecting all of them, give or take.

Light, heat, water, soil, nutrients are the main triggers. What can you think of that might be stressing them so much that it got 22 out of 28 plants?

My current plants give 3 or 4 finger leaves when stressed. Usually 3 chubby short leaves with or without a 4th tiny finger.

As I’m still a noob myself you’ll probably get better answers as more members login. Either way I’ll check back later after some sleep. 👍
 
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That’s okay I’m the same, just it’s only 8:30 at night here.
And yes I will add more information to start off with next time. Quite new to this forum stuff and exsplaining everything over message, I often write one part and forget what else I was going to add.

they did get switched into 12/12 pretty early (shorter days) maybe 35 days from seed. as I couldn’t get them in early with how odd our season has been, (normally plant in October and they start flowering by January, but because of very late frosts where I am and not being able to start indoors they got planted at the end of nov. I have read that going back into reveg can cause this so maybe these bad and good days is messing with there light schedule.

Ph is okay, not perfect but as best as I can get it, nothing special with soil just bought stuff, and a little bit of seasol.

The heat really changes here, can be boiling one day and freezing the next. But it’s has not affected us to much in the past.
 
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They have skipped most of there veg time so basically gunna be a full 12/12 grow, but even that doesn’t appear to be a cause for this.
 
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very interesting that you are having this same mutation on so many from a variety of strains. duckfoot is a genetic mutation(a very rare one) that is recessive in nature, something in your environment is signaling this response.
 
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very interesting that you are having this same mutation on so many from a variety of strains. duckfoot is a genetic mutation(a very rare one) that is recessive in nature, something in your environment is signaling this response.
A more direct way of saying what I said. Looks like he hasn’t thought of anything that could be the trigger yet.

This post might get a heavy like Aqua Man or GNick55 to notice.

I’ll stop by later to see if OP has updated or a heavy has stepped in. 🍀
 
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Yes it is very odd, I honestly can’t think of anything else that would cause it as I have never had this issue,

I suppose living in a area where is it isn’t fully appreciated maybe some growers have carried on this genetic to hide them easier,

i could under stand if a couple were like it, but 80%? Just odd, even if I can’t get anymore answers I’ll post update photos to see how they turn out :)

Thanks guys
 
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It’s going to be my guess that flipping them 12/12 at this state of immaturity has something to do with this.
 
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That looks like a strain I grew that was crossed with hops. It was called Acer 1. Not saying it is but looks the same. Does it smell like licorice and oranges by chance?
 
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It’s going to be my guess that flipping them 12/12 at this state of immaturity has something to do with this.


they were flipped into 12/12 very early, so definitely a possibility, but ive never seen this happen even in the worst of growning conditions. i had posted on icmag and wally duck thinks its most likely of the same mutation as duck foot.
 
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That looks like a strain I grew that was crossed with hops. It was called Acer 1. Not saying it is but looks the same. Does it smell like licorice and oranges by chance?
they do smell very citrusy! not so much like liquorice i don't think, although they are very pungent.
 
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they were flipped into 12/12 very early, so definitely a possibility, but ive never seen this happen even in the worst of growning conditions. i had posted on icmag and wally duck thinks its most likely of the same mutation as duck foot.
What’s crazy is that you have so many. I often see three leaves, but that’s only from the start as the plant matures it will start throwing fives and sevens. Not being allowed to mature before being thrown into flower is still my best guess. Keep us posted!
 
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What’s crazy is that you have so many. I often see three leaves, but that’s only from the start as the plant matures it will start throwing fives and sevens. Not being allowed to mature before being thrown into flower is still my best guess. Keep us posted!
i dare say you would be right, duck foot or not, i still find it very interesting. will do! :)
 
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