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[Captspaulding]

I only water when it’s dry and inch down and I will alternate Alaskan fish Epsom salt bone meal and molasses worm castings.. I did get another thing I’m going to try… this is all a leaning experience

Yeah, if you water it after you stick your finger in the dirt and then it’s a dry and inch down that’s a terrible way to tell whether or not your pot is needing to be filled again you always gotta go by pot weight man you gotta imagine that your medium, whether it be soil or cocoa Isn’t going to be ready to be fed until it feels like it’s the equivalent of Styrofoam in your pot, meaning. the volume of dirt in your pot needs to feel like the equivalent of Styrofoam. They can get that light before a dry back wilt occurs or any damage happens to your plant.
I say slow down with throwing the kitchen sink at it there buddy I’m here to help. I ain’t jumping your shit. I’m just saying you know the molasses the Epsom salts and meals. the banana tea that’s great out of all the stuff that you listed above. I think that that’s the only thing you should really be messing with right now banana Peel teas excellent stuff. but getting to know what a proper wet dry cycle should be like for a mature plant. It’s generally around 4 to 5 days if you like to run your lights hot given you’re in a 3 to 5 gallon or even a 7 to 12 gallon pot.

 

[Captspaulding]

Stoney Saturday always

Nice forest.

Pip pip good chap,
I do say some pipe weed may be in order if things are to get a little more wacky today we must keep with the local customs

 

[cannafarmer420]

Ok will due this is my first grow I messed up using miracle grow… next grow will be fox farm soil and come cal mag instead of epsom salt.. I do use bone meal Alaskan fish molasses worm castings.. would yall suggest something better I wanna try to stick with organics if I can

Do yourself a huge favor and just get gaia green, it's so much easier than liquid nutes. A lot of people on here use dry amendments. But if you insist on liquid then listen to @Captspaulding he knows his shit

 

[Captspaulding]

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See the green patch bottom right corner? That’s where I had all the taller kolas leaned over and had to prop them up. Things got messy and out of control in here this grow, but I stuck it out and dealt with the shit thrown my way. Like we were saying yesterday it’s about learning from your mistakes and moving forward. As soon as I wrap up this grow it’s deep clean time!
And I do mean DEEP CLEANING
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Hell bro, little bit of lean and cola don’t mean shit pack them out pack them in

 

[Smokie08]

Yeah, if you water it after you stick your finger in the dirt and then it’s a dry and inch down that’s a terrible way to tell whether or not your pot is needing to be filled again you always gotta go by pot weight man you gotta imagine that your medium, whether it be soil or cocoa Isn’t going to be ready to be fed until it feels like it’s the equivalent of Styrofoam in your pot, meaning. the volume of dirt in your pot needs to feel like the equivalent of Styrofoam. They can get that light before a dry back wilt occurs or any damage happens to your plant.
I say slow down with throwing the kitchen sink at it there buddy I’m here to help. I ain’t jumping your shit. I’m just saying you know the molasses the Epsom salts and meals. the banana tea that’s great out of all the stuff that you listed above. I think that that’s the only thing you should really be messing with right now banana Peel teas excellent stuff. but getting to know what a proper wet dry cycle should be like for a mature plant. It’s generally around 4 to 5 days if you like to run your lights hot given you’re in a 3 to 5 gallon or even a 7 to 12 gallon pot.

Ok that makes sense I’ll deff slow down on the water.. deff wasn’t prepared as I thought I was thanks for all the In put

 

[Tumbleweed375]

View attachment 2392233
See the green patch bottom right corner? That’s where I had all the taller kolas leaned over and had to prop them up. Things got messy and out of control in here this grow, but I stuck it out and dealt with the shit thrown my way. Like we were saying yesterday it’s about learning from your mistakes and moving forward. As soon as I wrap up this grow it’s deep clean time!
And I do mean DEEP CLEANING
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[Putthataway]

Pretty pissed off at my myself with this grow. Tried to to follow the advice from cap and that oneguyyouknow. No matter what I have tried the leaves just look like Hiroshima keeps getting hit. Burnt tips. Not over fed. I haven’t fed them anything. Been giving them banana tea and some nitrogen at the advice of cap. The pots are root bound. Battling the bugs that managed to kill a few sunflower seedlings and almost killed a clone that had just rooted. The only good news is the buds are getting bigger still. They smell wonderful . Flowering started 1/17 so I hope I can get them to the finish line. Main burning seems to be at the top of the plants but by no means limited to the bottom. Following the advice of cap scratching the top soil I can’t scratch anything off it’s all roots. I added a little bit of soil to the top

if you take a look at this clone the bugs attacked the dead leaf is basically doing what the mom’s leaves are doing.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Pretty pissed off at my myself with this grow. Tried to to follow the advice from cap and that oneguyyouknow. No matter what I have tried the leaves just look like Hiroshima keeps getting hit. Burnt tips. Not over fed. I haven’t fed them anything. Been giving them banana tea and some nitrogen at the advice of cap. The pots are root bound. Battling the bugs that managed to kill a few sunflower seedlings and almost killed a clone that had just rooted. The only good news is the buds are getting bigger still. They smell wonderful . Flowering started 1/17 so I hope I can get them to the finish line. Main burning seems to be at the top of the plants but by no means limited to the bottom. Following the advice of cap scratching the top soil I can’t scratch anything off it’s all roots. I added a little bit of soil to the top View attachment 2392263View attachment 2392264if you take a look at this clone the bugs attacked the dead leaf is basically doing what the mom’s leaves are doing.

I def gave poor advice earlier on, thats for sure

no that wasnt burn, not sure what it is. Almost looks like extreme phosphorous deficiency now, but wouldnt be surprised if its bug related either.

I have determined My PB2 and pb4 inside at least, ended up wanting ridiculous amount of calcium to be happy. Like, levels that would burn my other plants or trigger micronutrient disorders. She also wants a ton of nitrogen (even in flower) and phosphorous (even in veg) too. Pretty sure before i figured that out with the pb2 tent 2 run i told you to be careful with the extra calcium.

ive learned that much growing her inside but im not sure if that informs you of anything useful or not lol. You cant exactly just mix up whatever ratios the plants are asking for with your method which is how i dealt with their specific sensitivities (youll run into similar with most old school sativa dom lineages grown inside, theyre tricky plants that get picky when a real sun isnt involved. The special queen, the peaceblasters, and my Maui86 are all like that. Picky but worth figuring out)

The 3 plants i have that it turns out i cant just run business as usual with my 1 part feeding regiments are the peaceblasters, special queen, and my M86 pheno lol. I had to start diving deep with different ratios of dry soluble mixes to dial them in. Im also in a soil i dont normally use right now and will be going back to my old mix, so that may all change up again here soon. Variables and all that.

 

[donkanaille94]

Sorrey, was fuckd up yesterday, ill be running that deteriorating light schedule.

forgive me for my political shit, was shitfaced

 

[donkanaille94]

getting shitfaced part II

 

[Putthataway]

no that wasnt burn, not sure what it is. Almost looks like extreme phosphorous deficiency now, but eouldnt be surprised if its bug related.

I have determined My PB2 and pb4 inside at least, ended up wanting ridiculous amount of calcium to be happy. Like, levels that would burn my other plants or trigger micronutrient disorders. She also wants a ton of nitrogen (even in flower) and phosphorous (even in veg) too.

ive learned that much growing her inside but im not sure if that informs you of anything useful or not lol. You cant exactly just mix up whatever ratios the plants are asking for with your method which is how i dealt with their specific sensitivities (youll run into similar with most old school sativa dom lineages grown inside, theyre tricky plants that get picky when a real sun isnt involved. The special queen, the peaceblasters, and my Maui86 are all like that. Picky but worth figuring out)

Thanks for chiming in. I’m determined to figure it out. The m86X special queen started having problems right after flip which that one stopped a few weeks later when the m86 and pb2 started doing the same thing . The tallest m86 on the right wasn’t progressing as much with the leaf destruction. Btw there’s two m86 in there that pretty much smell exactly like the m86x special queen, that pixy stick smell you described. After getting in the tent and cleaning up my lady came home and commented on the smell being overwhelming.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Thanks for chiming in. I’m determined to figure it out. The m86X special queen started having problems right after flip which that one stopped a few weeks later when the m86 and pb2 started doing the same thing . The tallest m86 on the right wasn’t progressing as much with the leaf destruction. Btw there’s two m86 in there that pretty much smell exactly like the m86x special queen, that pixy stick smell you described. After getting in the tent and cleaning up my lady came home and commented on the smell being overwhelming.

thats super interesting to me.


that pixie stick smell is all special queen on my end.

My m86 pheno smells vaguely sweet, but mostly like a fresh pack of beachnut chew tobacco lol


Yea my pb's and special queen is on a high calcium, high phosphourous, high N (relatively) for flower. Low-ish potassium and low micronutrients. And now theyre glowing and stacking fat again

they're getting close to 200ppm of calcium bicarbonate/nitrate measured by itself every watering rn, so is pb4 and special queen. On top of that theyre just getting an addition 350ppm of PK boost (0-28-38) from green leaf mixed 50/50 (1:1) with jacks blossom boost (10-30-20+micronutrients). almost Every single watering.

 

[Putthataway]

thats super interesting to me.


that pixie stick smell is all special queen on my end.

My m86 pheno smells vaguely sweet, but mostly like a fresh pack of beachnut chew tobacco lol


Yea my pb's and special queen is on a high calcium, high phosphourous, high N (relatively) for flower. Low potassium low micronutrients. And now theyre glowing and stacking fat again

they're getting close to 200ppm of calcium alone every watering rn, so is pb4 and special queen

This one for sure. To get into the others I am brushing up on them so I could be mistaken on the rears.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

View attachment 2392290This one for sure. To get into the others I am brushing up on them so I could be mistaken on the rears.

im not totally sure what could pop out of the m86 terp profile wise.

i only had one seed from my original mauis from capt pop, and it was a very nice keeper female pheno and i had to nurse it a bit to get it going nice. Mine came from that very first batch captain was hunting i believe. The super old seeds.

I havent popped any of the maui seeds capt made and sent out yet but i got em in the fridge. Its an oldschool sativa dom lineage though, you could absolutely have some overlap with the special queen cross for sure terp wise. Now that im pondering, not having any overlap on any maui phenos would actually be more surprising. Both are very dank, oldschool fire hair sativa doms. At least mine are on my end.

 

[Mikedin]

Howdy friends, top of the weekend to you. I got some glamour shots here of the cement shoes enjoy them that shit’s pretty nice man.
Thanks again @Mikedin

Anytime brother! I’m glad you like her so much, my brother In law popped a bunch the year I made them, he still has his favorite original plant, been revegging and reflowering for I think last year was it’s 4th cycle he has cloned it too but still runs the mother hah

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

@Putthataway


KNowing what i know about PB2's pickyness, the advice i gave you early on in flower looking at the pics was actually terrible advice.

Unfortunately immobile nutrient deficiencies and burns (nute and light both) express very similarly on these older sativa lineages. And they can be very tricky to ID when you werent the one growing them, especially though pics.

if your PB2 haymeadow bean was anything like her mom, you probably had a combo calcium/phosphorous deficiency tht was expressing as burned tissue. The advice i gave you early on was likely terrible advice. I apologize if you followed it and anything got worse because of it.


Calcium and P deficiency on PB2, PB4 looks like atypical nutrient burn on more modern lineages. And it threw me for a loop for a couple weeks on my own plants. And both go calcium, phosphorous, and N deficient in flower really easily, and its easy to burn them with too much potassium. Most cannabis can take potassium out the ass in flower.

The oldschool jacks and hazes are often very similar. Picky and difficult to diagnose. Immobile nutrient disorders, light and nutrient burn, they all look very same same on these plants.

 

[Putthataway]

im not totally sure what could pop out of the m86 terp profile wise.

i only had one seed from my original mauis from capt pop, and it was a very nice keeper female pheno and i had to nurse it a bit to get it going nice. Mine came from that very first batch captain was hunting i believe. The super old seeds.

I havent popped any of the maui seeds capt made and sent out yet but i got em in the fridge. Its an oldschool sativa dom lineage though, you could absolutely have some overlap with the special queen cross for sure terp wise. Now that im pondering, not having any overlap on any maui phenos would actually be more surprising. Both are very dank, oldschool fire hair sativa doms. At least mine are on my end.

Didn’t you get the og seeds for that one?

 

[Ninjadogma]

Funny crazy number my little brother's band did a couple years back. "I keep a stranger tied up on my daddy's farm" Just feels appropo an anthem for a trainwrecking crew.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Didn’t you get the og seeds for that one?

yea thats what i was saying.

i popped some of the originals, havent popped any new ones yet, only had one take off, and lucked out with a nice female pheno. I have no grounds to comment on the terp profiles in the maui, just the one plant lol


Sorry im super wordy lol

 

[Putthataway]

@Putthataway


KNowing what i know about PB2's pickyness, the advice i gave you early on in flower looking at the pics was actually terrible advice.

Unfortunately immobile nutrient deficiencies and burns (nute and light both) express very similarly on these older sativa lineages. And they can be very tricky to ID when you werent the one growing them, especially though pics.

if your PB2 haymeadow bean was anything like her mom, you probably had a combo calcium/phosphorous deficiency tht was expressing as burned tissue. The advice i gave you early on was likely terrible advice. I apologize if you followed it and anything got worse because of it.


Calcium and P deficiency on PB2, PB4 looks like atypical nutrient burn on more modern lineages. And it threw me for a loop for a couple weeks on my own plants. And both go calcium, phosphorous, and N deficient in flower really easily, and its easy to burn them with too much potassium. Most cannabis can take potassium out the ass in flower.

The oldschool jacks and hazes are often very similar. Picky and difficult to diagnose. Immobile nutrient disorders, light and nutrient burn, they all look very same same on these plants.

No need to apologize my friend. They all seem to have their thing. I think the biggest issue was the size of pots and the bugs that have proven themselves as destructive. I haven’t put those castings down since although I felt like soil needed it .