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Tooo much smoke:smoke:D forgot to ask that if i should grow with 5 gallon grow bags would that also increase yeilds as compared to growing with 2 an 3 gal bags:rock
 
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The plants should be pretty good size before you transplant to 5 gallon, so yes, because you'll need to veg the plants longer. Try to avoid transplanting during flowering to avoid the inevitable stresses associated with it.
 
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whats this topping of plants mean? does it also increase yeild?
 
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Topping is cutting off the new growth of a branch just above a leaf set which make the plant produce two branches at the top instead of one.

Topping can increase the yield of plants that benefit from being grown as a bush.
 
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whats this topping of plants mean? does it also increase yeild?

Topping is removing the very newest growth from the top of the plant. This forces the shoots and branches bellow that point to strive to be the main branch. So it may increase yields, but it does create more plant tops for abd the tops of the branches get the most light and proper nutrients, so it creates better quality.
 
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I never top and always LST and then if needed I supercrop and I think this gives the best overall yield but that's just me .
 
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is it something u would suggest for a beginner? or should i get a couple grows under my belt b4 i start manipulating my plant?
 
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totally agree zoo..doing the bending thing causes the plant to think the central bud has hit the height limit and sends a signal to the side branches to get a move on,plus you still get to keep the main top..happy haloween everyone,tg :hi
 
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You only learn one way Andy and that's by trial and error my friend and it would help to research LST and supercropping
 
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i love super cropping. its so easy. scary at first but then becomes easy. just pinch the stem and bend her on over. sometimes you may have to wiggle back and forth to bend her over but she will go. give it a try. don't worry if you happen to break the stem. electrical tape works wonders.
 
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I never top and always LST and then if needed I supercrop and I think this gives the best overall yield but that's just me .

What exactly does LST stand for and how does it work and what is supercroping?
 
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What exactly does LST stand for and how does it work and what is supercroping?

Ok, I am not Zoo, but I can help. LST stands for Low Stress Training. The easiest method of LST is using some string or plant wire to tie branches of the plant off to the pot so they are bent over. Bending the plant tops downward does two things. Cannabis sends specific hormones to the top of the plant, and a certain amount to the branch tips, to keep growth coming from those sites. When you bend and tie down the main stem the hormone is no longer being sent there as it is no longer the highest point on the plant, instead the other branches and nodal points all strive to be the main stem. It also opens up the plant so sites lower down on the plant and sites that would normally be blocked from the light are opened up and exposed to more light. The end result is a plant that is rather short and bushy with many colas. With certain plants this will increase yields and ultimately take up less room. The only drawback here would be this technique can add a bit more time to the plants veg. cycle.

Supercropping is another training method meant to improve yields. The operation of supercropping is simply breaking the inner part of the plants stem without breaking the outer husk. By gently bending and/or rolling the stems of the plants the inner part of the stem breaks, but since the outer part has not broken it wants to repair itself rather than die. When the plant repairs the sites at which it was broken it scars, kind of like humans. There is additional plat matter built up at that site so it becomes stronger and thicker than it was before and the actual sites develop bulges that do kind of look like scars. With he increased plant material in any given point in needs more water, air, and nutrients, and subsequent portions of the plant also grow thicker and stronger. Again this can add to a plants veg cycle as it always needs 4 or 5 days to recover.

Both of these techniques are often employed by growers with limited space. They both can keep plant heights down but increase the amount of top budding sites. Both are very good, with LST being the easier of the two to utilize.
 
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i also do the LST on a cpl of my plants. this is my 1st grow and i also learned my 1st lesson on one of them. lol that was dont bend to far down. ya i toped it lol. but the LST works great for me. i use steel wire to tie it down.
 
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lloyd323

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thanks. I definitely am growing in tight space. I'm already in flowering but I will experiment with that technique next season.
 
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thanks. I definitely am growing in tight space. I'm already in flowering but I will experiment with that technique next season.

I did the LST the first couple times in my box. Then I figured out that since my lights were mounted on the side of the box, the plants stop growing once they grow slightly higher than the highest light. Then it turns into vertical lighting. If height is an issue for you, then maybe look at the vertical lighting thread that is floating about here.
 
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