28k/28plants RDWC Constuction of room and first grow....

[mrdizzle]

not a large difference between the netpots and 3gals, I have used both with success. IMO the netpots allow the water to flow over those roots in the top bucket hooking them up with the DO they need, I didnt have any problems with the 3gals but the roots below the waterline that are still inside the bucket worried me because they didnt get the water flow and the DO that I believed the netpot was getting

 

[bong bandit]

being a rdwc looser, i can't bring anything to the table aside from saying use regenerative blowers - the more the better.

16 5 gal rdwc room wasn't impressive with 3 ap 100s. not blaming that for the failure, but i would have liked to have seen a lot more bubbles.

jack made the switch, ben made the switch, RMCG started off with it, you will too and hopefully make people want to make the move back to rdwc again. GOOD LUCK!

 

[Lost]

Just depends on how much noise you can have. Regens are LOUD!

 

[600gph]

I have seen that he as appeared to have changed, but until I have seen a successful grow using the net pots in the MPB's ill stick with my 3 gal buckets.

Here...Netpots...


Sick stands and cage holders...


mc

 

[Giddeon]

Here...Netpots...


Sick stands and cage holders...


mc

Whats the lbs per plant on those roots?? 3.5 or higher per plant I consider a successful mark in this system.

With the buckets I have pulled down 3.7 lbs per plant and on a current grow, looking to hit the 4 lb mark with ease (changed up some lighting).

I'm not saying the net pots don't grow plants for people, but the net pots have characteristics about them that I personally don't like.

Every farmer is different and achieves their final product in unique ways.

 

[mrdizzle]

Whats the lbs per plant on those roots?? 3.5 or higher per plant I consider a successful mark in this system.

With the buckets I have pulled down 3.7 lbs per plant and on a current grow, looking to hit the 4 lb mark with ease (changed up some lighting).

I'm not saying the net pots don't grow plants for people, but the net pots have characteristics about them that I personally don't like.

Every farmer is different and achieves their final product in unique ways.

you dont really think the yeild came from your 3gal buckets thou do you? the 8k around 4plants probably had more to do with it then the top bucket which does very little for the yeild IMO

did you happen to get a photo of one of these 3.5lbers? I have always wanted to see the size of a 3lber that wasnt DD's g-13

 

[600gph]

Whats the lbs per plant on those roots?? 3.5 or higher per plant I consider a successful mark in this system.

With the buckets I have pulled down 3.7 lbs per plant and on a current grow, looking to hit the 4 lb mark with ease (changed up some lighting).

I'm not saying the net pots don't grow plants for people, but the net pots have characteristics about them that I personally don't like.

Every farmer is different and achieves their final product in unique ways.

Happy with my 2+ per.....Dont know how your DNA Recon would sell around here...

mc

 

[Giddeon]

you dont really think the yeild came from your 3gal buckets thou do you? the 8k around 4plants probably had more to do with it then the top bucket which does very little for the yeild IMO

did you happen to get a photo of one of these 3.5lbers? I have always wanted to see the size of a 3lber that wasnt DD's g-13

Ill have pics of my 4lb plants, haha hopefully, at least will 3.5 again, with 8 k around 6 plants in about 4 weeks

And I agree I'm sure its not only the buckets but if I'm getting 3.5+ why change.

About to do some other strains in my MPB's just had to learn and get solid with one before moving on.

600GPH Tell, whats wrong with the ReCon?? I agree its not the most amazing flave ever but its a good before bed smoke real heavy and puts me to sleep, so thats when its smoked. It also helps relieve my lower back pain on nights where it gets unbearable. Also it is a hearty heavy yielding strain, and thats why it was picked to learn the MPB's, before moving on to other more connoisseur style genetics in the MPB's.

 

[Indicated]

Looks like a lot of space is gonna be waisted there if i may....shit ..id jam it least 4 8x4 tables in there and about 400 clones easy....4 seperate sys. to localize trouble and max yeild the space,minamise veg time..screw ounces per plant...gimme ounce per sq. ft. anyday

 

[Bobby Smith]

Looks like a lot of space is gonna be waisted there if i may....shit ..id jam it least 4 8x4 tables in there and about 400 clones easy....4 seperate sys. to localize trouble and max yeild the space,minamise veg time..screw ounces per plant...gimme ounce per sq. ft. anyday

Smart viewpoint, especially in Florida where that would just about be a mandatory life sentence.

Start your own thread (if you even grow) and stay out of other's threads who neither want nor need your opinion.

 

[600gph]

600GPH Tell, whats wrong with the ReCon?? I agree its not the most amazing flave ever but its a good before bed smoke real heavy and puts me to sleep, so thats when its smoked. It also helps relieve my lower back pain on nights where it gets unbearable. Also it is a hearty heavy yielding strain, and thats why it was picked to learn the MPB's, before moving on to other more connoisseur style genetics in the MPB's.

Nothing wrong with Recon...Heavy yielding Indica kinda like DD's......You grow all that work for personal use.....I assume you sell to make $$$...

I don't grow for free and So-Cal is getting crazy....My genetics need to be top notch to compete...So when yields are mentioned we really need to look at genetics and then compare..

The pictures i posted were just to show that big plants can be grown with the net pots...Feel like I get a better view of the roots....

mc

 

[Giddeon]

Nothing wrong with Recon...Heavy yielding Indica kinda like DD's......You grow all that work for personal use.....I assume you sell to make $$$...

I don't grow for free and So-Cal is getting crazy....My genetics need to be top notch to compete...So when yields are mentioned we really need to look at genetics and then compare..

The pictures i posted were just to show that big plants can be grown with the net pots...Feel like I get a better view of the roots....

mc

When viewing roots do you feel that there is a time where its almost too much to be moving the huge plants and checking roots?? This usually happens around week 3 to 4 in flowering cycle for me, once they have gotten so big and the roots aren't trying to flow out of the drains any more I usually stop checking mine.

I see what you are getting at and agree that when you have a market that is flooded you do need high end gear to compete. I actually just trade smoke with friends to acquire other strains that I don't have growing and turn a lot of my harvests into edibles since smoking isn't always an option for me. I think if I were growing something like a bubba in my system though I'd have to sit on it all since I love that flavor!!

 

[NorcalTom]

being a rdwc looser, i can't bring anything to the table aside from saying use regenerative blowers - the more the better.

16 5 gal rdwc room wasn't impressive with 3 ap 100s. not blaming that for the failure, but i would have liked to have seen a lot more bubbles.

jack made the switch, ben made the switch, RMCG started off with it, you will too and hopefully make people want to make the move back to rdwc again. GOOD LUCK!

Just depends on how much noise you can have. Regens are LOUD!

I made the switch, I have a whitewater ww 60 and it blows 35 cfm. I have a feeling this should be enough but I'm considering getting another just to make sure. I have been debating on running some sweet water air diffusers or possible make my own out of 3/4" pvc with holes drilled in it. I was reading Fatmans DO theory and it make sense(and yes i think he is a complete asshole, a smart one but still an asshole). So I'm trying to find a way to cause turbulance and enough DO to prevent root rot. Once I figure out what i'm going to do diffusers or build my own I'll post pics. Until then here are some pics of my progress.


http://i1122.invalid.com/albums/l533/tommybell209/1299530799.jpg

http://i1122.invalid.com/albums/l533/tommybell209/1299530801.jpg

http://i1122.invalid.com/albums/l533/tommybell209/1299271917.jpg

Work has been crazy so my progress has slowed.

Thanks NCT

 

[TrichromeFan]

Plumbing looks clean. Is that the PEX stuff?

-TF

 

[Lost]

Norcal Tom - I agree with you about fatman, but I disagree with his thoughts on DO (as contradictory as they were, one min its one thing the next its another.)

That being said, I really have to reccomend air diffusers. You will notice in the heath grows , which is really I believe what fatman was referencing, that the water levels are in terms of inches, the plants are smaller, and the flow rates are off the charts as you would expect putting roots in a drain pipe with alot of flow. Also with his system, there were a ton of waterfalls, and again a max depth of 2.5-3 inches. Anytime you go deeper than that, your asking for problems without the bubbles. Just my opinions from my experience.

 

[Papa]

awesome building skillz, NorcalTom!

 

[NorcalTom]

Plumbing looks clean. Is that the PEX stuff?

-TF

It is black poly for drip irrigation, i found these fittings at a local Irrigation supply and they work just like pex but at a fraction of the cost. Check out any local Rain For Rent or Golden State Irrigation.

Norcal Tom - I agree with you about fatman, but I disagree with his thoughts on DO (as contradictory as they were, one min its one thing the next its another.)

That being said, I really have to reccomend air diffusers. You will notice in the heath grows , which is really I believe what fatman was referencing, that the water levels are in terms of inches, the plants are smaller, and the flow rates are off the charts as you would expect putting roots in a drain pipe with alot of flow. Also with his system, there were a ton of waterfalls, and again a max depth of 2.5-3 inches. Anytime you go deeper than that, your asking for problems without the bubbles. Just my opinions from my experience.

I do remember him being very contradictive. I think he was trying to make an ass out of people on this forum instead of being informative. He started to go in great depth about why root rot occurs. I tend to agree with him about the tubulance/ movement of the roots to helps get DO to the areas that would be the most vulnerable to root rot.
I'm leaning to air diffusers but havn't figured out which one to go with. Someone else posted earlier that they are air hogs. I'm going to try and run one WW60 for the whole room.
Do you have any links to the Heath grows, I havn't read any.

Thanks again Lost
NCT

awesome building skillz, NorcalTom!

Thank you sir, Hopefully my growing skillz could match my building skillz.
NCT

 

[NorcalTom]

Air Diffusers

Can anyone suggest a good diffuser or are they all the same. When i research them, they really dont go into any detail.

Thanks NCT

 

[Lost]

Oxy shields are pretty cool.

 

[600gph]

http://i1122.invalid.com/albums/l533/tommybell209/1299530799.jpg

http://i1122.invalid.com/albums/l533/tommybell209/1299530801.jpg

http://i1122.invalid.com/albums/l533/tommybell209/1299271917.jpg

Man those tables are sick...Going to need to steal those table designs from you....


Can you help me with the plumbing in the pics...

1 1/2" input
2 3/4" output

Looks like those outputs are pretty low in the buckets...How many inches from bottom are those returns?????

How many gph are you putting through each bucket?????


Any top feed???

mc