Flushing! Let's Chit Chat

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So check this out...

So we have a discussion, I give my view right!?
And you give yours!

And at some point I'd like to think we ask why?

I didn't start with this style, I started in a 10x20 seedling tray with four inch net pots hand watering. My roots would grow out the pot and dry up. I didn't know if that was good or bad.

But talking with other growers or should I say dick throat my ways better I learned

Cheers bro!
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/why-do-leaves-change-color-fall/
 
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I do water to run off , but not much.
Just enough to know that the whole pot is saturated.
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I don't know what's actually going on in that process, but it makes a lot more since then other things I hear!

I understand the idea, it leaches the salts and excess nutes out
 
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I don't know what's actually going on in that process, but it makes a lot more since then other things I hear!

I understand the idea, it leaches the salts and excess nutes out


I don’t think it is any more complicated than that. The water melts the salts back in solution and the excess runoff helps wash them away. And the making sure there are no dry spots in there too.

Even with well water and no nutes I need to water to runoff. Otherwise the calcium builds up. You can see it on the soil and in the drainage holes.
 
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I totally understand that!
Why do we think it's Chlorophyll we taste?
I mean most bud is green... unless when you flush you end up with a bud that's not green!?
Chlorophyll is used to add a Minty flavor to different products. IDK if still taste minty when smoked!

I'm just asking questions!

Edit.. Did someone extract Chlorophyll smoke and passed the word along?

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Black ash is from un oxidized carbon deposits (high burn temp).. if you can smoke with a tiny flame and get white ash then is clean..if you have to smoke with a crack torch then its probably not clean bud


I thought it was the carbs that have not been dissipated with the chlorophyll. Sugar. Wet sugar. Doesn’t burn well.

The leaving plants in the dark 24-48 hrs before harvest is to get the carbs in the plant back down to the roots before cutting.

It’s another drying timesaver like flushing.
 
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I totally understand that!
Why do we think it's Chlorophyll we taste?
I mean most bud is green... unless when you flush you end up with a bud that's not green!?
Chlorophyll is used to add a Minty flavor to different products. IDK if still taste minty when smoked!

I'm just asking questions!
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In my experience when the plant is dark green.. it tastes like grass clippings. Even like lime green weed is better than dark stuff... you have used up more nutrients at the right time in the plants life
Read the conclusion on nitrogen and chlorophyll relation.
Weed growers dont want a lot of nitrogen
 
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I thought it was the carbs that have not been dissipated with the chlorophyll. Sugar. Wet sugar. Doesn’t burn well.

The leaving plants in the dark 24-48 hrs before harvest is to get the carbs in the plant back down to the roots before cutting.

It’s another drying timesaver like flushing.
Wet bud raises the burn temp... its actually the crap you put in your plant...and smoke later
 
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Black ash is from un oxidized carbon deposits (high burn temp).. if you can smoke with a tiny flame and get white ash then is clean..if you have to smoke with a crack torch then its probably not clean bud
I agree here to the extent of the carbon molecule being the culprit of black ash
 
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I don’t think it is any more complicated than that. The water melts the salts back in solution and the excess runoff helps wash them away. And the making sure there are no dry spots in there too.

Even with well water and no nutes I need to water to runoff. Otherwise the calcium builds up. You can see it on the soil and in the drainage holes.
I get the removing excess salts, not so much the calcium
 
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The leaving plants in the dark 24-48 hrs before harvest is to get the carbs in the plant back down to the roots before cutting

I'd love to dive into that too!
But later on.

Still wrapping my head around this, lots of good comments. Add they different, gives you lot to think about.

Not a lot of actual science on cannabis, even less on certain things we do.
a lot of things we understand like plants in general, but other things we can get pretty close then it's theories, experiments... etc
But that's in the process of changing,
Hopefully more states legalize this year
 
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I'd love to dive into that too!
But later on.

Still wrapping my head around this, lots of good comments. Add they different, gives you lot to think about.

Not a lot of actual science on cannabis, even less on certain things we do.
a lot of things we understand like plants in general, but other things we can get pretty close then it's theories, experiments... etc
But that's in the process of changing,
Hopefully more states legalize this year


Actually everything I am saying is found in Ed Rosenthals Grow book. He tested everything many years ago. Even uv raising thc content and far red light to speed flowering. The nutrient chapter is huge.
 
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I'd love to dive into that too!
But later on.

Still wrapping my head around this, lots of good comments. Add they different, gives you lot to think about.

Not a lot of actual science on cannabis, even less on certain things we do.
a lot of things we understand like plants in general, but other things we can get pretty close then it's theories, experiments... etc
But that's in the process of changing,
Hopefully more states legalize this year
Ya... you have to realize a plant is a plant... they have studied everything else since the 1800s... genetics, trichs, variation, harvest times, lighting.... its really all the same
 
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A hard Flush should really only be used on Synthetic nutes.
If your in organic with no salts added you shouldn’t need to flush with 8gal of water for a 2gal pot.

Now I’m in semi organic FFHF soil ,EWC ,Mushroom compost, and grow stones with General Organics nite line. I don’t flush but I do leach the last 2 weeks also. Just to get ride of any nitrogen that’s hanging in the sun leafs.
Which is where they store the extra nutes, that’s why I like to see yellowing of those leafs.
The Sugar leafs are not feeders to the bud per say like the sun leafs.
My .02 .
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This guy is a true scholar. Most any old school homies just say water only for ripening as str8 said. Totally cutting off nitrogen enhances swells also. A plant naturally stops dropping urease and protease during ripening. It's why my plants fade all natural.
 
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All about the fade. I have smoked no till bud from several decent growers and i follow mountain organics on IG... How do you guys get rid of the extra nitrogen in your buds? Do no till growers try to for a fade? Every time I have even seen no till finished out, it is green as can be, smells and tastes horrid, also your wrong @brazel, Every time I have burned down some no till it burns black. When I ask the growers they get all mad and say things like, "it's organic, and if it burns a little black or just because its no till." Yes this was an actual response. Don't get me wrong, LOS all the way. But the difference is, I stop feeding and start leeching 2 weeks before chop.
Here's your chit chat.
 
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All about the fade. I have smoked no till bud from several decent growers and i follow mountain organics on IG... How do you guys get rid of the extra nitrogen in your buds? Do no till growers try to for a fade? Every time I have even seen no till finished out, it is green as can be, smells and tastes horrid, also your wrong @brazel, Every time I have burned down some no till it burns black. When I ask the growers they get all mad and say things like, "it's organic, and if it burns a little black or just because its no till." Yes this was an actual response. Don't get me wrong, LOS all the way. But the difference is, I stop feeding and start leeching 2 weeks before chop.
Here's your chit chat.
Best way to ripen no till is a cold water or ice water flush.... it will bring out any color. Cold water inhibits chlorophyll
 
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Wow...just...wow...theyre plucking too early bud. We can run plants up to 16 weeks. I haven't found genetics solid enough to run it. Maybe this go. I went half fade last run. That's also MBP. Your boys didn't know feeding barley...urease and protease is same as nitrogen....
 
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