Pm And Spider Mites In 5th Week Of Flower

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the rrock

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If you really want to work on it get a shop vac and start vacuuming ,or do what the guy above said cut your losses. I spray either floramite or avid a few weeks before I start flower cycle and I haven't had a mite in yeqrs. Ive also burned sulphur during 12/12 and it was a mistake as you could get a taste of sulphur while vaping,not much but enough to know its not a good idea.
 
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I know I'll probably get thrashed for this, but personally, I'd chop everything, nuke the room/tents and start over. PM is a Mother F'er to get rid of and yes, like everyone says, it's systemic. I've had mites in veg and used neem oil to kill em. It took quite a few treatments before I got em all. It really boils down to this (for me at least) I was spending shit tons of time, money, and effort, not to mention the stress on the plants themselves (being stunted) and my own stress of the whole thing. My kid finally pointed out that with the wasted time and not really getting ahead, I could have already had a month or two into a new grow. I cleaned the shit out, cleaned the tents with bleach, H2o2, alcohol, you name it, I used it. Then used an ozone generator (reasonably price around $65 on Amazon) to nuke the entire room, tents, tools, etc. Start fresh - new everything. Also, mites just don't show up. They come from somewhere. If you're working outdoors and then go work on your girls before changing cloths, you can transport mites.
 
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morugawelder

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Peff said:
Due to a new room and new setup, things went south recently and I'm having a lot of trouble. Im in my 5th week of flowering, I've been battling mites for 2 weeks and I've spotted PM on my plants today. I'm honestly pretty lost as to what to do, as I'd rather not spray any fungicide nor pesticide this far in flower. What would you guys recommend? ( I'll post pictures in a couple hours if needed, I dont have any atm )

Those are the products I could use right away: Nova, Natria ( both fungicide ) & Bug b gone, Ambush ( pesticide )

Natria only stays for a week while Bug B gone stays for 2 weeks, so they " shouldnt " be there when I harvest but I'd rather still not, + I was told it'd make the hair turn brown.
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I too recently found a few leaves with wpm on them in my garden. I been pulling leaves left and right. That wpm shit shows up overnight it’s no joke. I been reading on how or treat it and seems like there are some options to help control the wpm but not get rid of it completely. Last night I pulled a few leaves off my infected plant. I mixed up 1 part milk 9 parts water. I then sprayed the cut leaves with the mix and let them air dry. About a hour later I went outside to take a look at the leaves, I couldn’t see any sign of the wpm. I’m not saying it works. But from my lil experiment it seems to. The thing I don’t know is if the mix just washed the wpm off or if it kills it. Maybe someone here has more experience on this. Bytw I most likely will take my infectious plant out of the room and place it out doors and try a shit load of things on it to see if anything really works to permanently kill the wpm.
 
Dirtbag

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I've cured genetics from PM. It took me 3 generations of spraying sulphur and vaping sulphur, but my bubba doesnt have it anymore.
 
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How did you make out with the pests peff?
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Ended up cutting them, I had two other tent going on at the same time and a lot of school work so I didnt have enough time to take care of all the plants anyway, decided to spend more time with the other two tents rather than not taking good care of everyone

Feel like it was a good decision, I’ll post pics in a few :)
 
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justadbeer said:
I know I'll probably get thrashed for this, but personally, I'd chop everything, nuke the room/tents and start over. PM is a Mother F'er to get rid of and yes, like everyone says, it's systemic. I've had mites in veg and used neem oil to kill em. It took quite a few treatments before I got em all. It really boils down to this (for me at least) I was spending shit tons of time, money, and effort, not to mention the stress on the plants themselves (being stunted) and my own stress of the whole thing. My kid finally pointed out that with the wasted time and not really getting ahead, I could have already had a month or two into a new grow. I cleaned the shit out, cleaned the tents with bleach, H2o2, alcohol, you name it, I used it. Then used an ozone generator (reasonably price around $65 on Amazon) to nuke the entire room, tents, tools, etc. Start fresh - new everything. Also, mites just don't show up. They come from somewhere. If you're working outdoors and then go work on your girls before changing cloths, you can transport mites.
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Yeah I decided to cut, not a fan of pm in 5th week and with school and two other tents at the same time I was running out of time anyway
 
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Peff said:
Due to a new room and new setup, things went south recently and I'm having a lot of trouble. Im in my 5th week of flowering, I've been battling mites for 2 weeks and I've spotted PM on my plants today. I'm honestly pretty lost as to what to do, as I'd rather not spray any fungicide nor pesticide this far in flower. What would you guys recommend? ( I'll post pictures in a couple hours if needed, I dont have any atm )

Those are the products I could use right away: Nova, Natria ( both fungicide ) & Bug b gone, Ambush ( pesticide )

Natria only stays for a week while Bug B gone stays for 2 weeks, so they " shouldnt " be there when I harvest but I'd rather still not, + I was told it'd make the hair turn brown.
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Can't comment on the mites because I've never defeated them but you might consider a sulfur burner for the pm. It might slow the mites down a tad too?
 
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I've been fighting these after a supposedly good friend returned some clones that I had given him. They didn't show up for a good while, and I tried a few different products, including Dr Dead Bug, or something similar. It helped, but then I switched to a pyrethrin based fogger, which worked great. At first. Maybe I didn't follow up enough, but I looked today and seem to have a 2nd wave after being in retreat for weeks. I'm going on 6th week of flowering and I'm continuing the pyrethrin foggers, but I really hate having that stuff on the plant, even though it degrades quickly. Is there anything made that is approved for use during flowering, besides garlic/peppers and sulfur? I can't wait for this grow to conclude so I can nuke everything, but I can't walk away from it at this point.
 
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for mildew, i use milk. soak the plant , let the heat dry the milk on leaves.....

for the mites, your at a critical time....
boil, strain, and spray habanero peppers.
becareful not to pepper bomb yourself....
what ever it is, ya gotta do it now or u will have cotton candy sticks.
 
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detroitjoe said:
for mildew, i use milk. soak the plant , let the heat dry the milk on leaves.....

for the mites, your at a critical time....
boil, strain, and spray habanero peppers.
becareful not to pepper bomb yourself....
what ever it is, ya gotta do it now or u will have cotton candy sticks.
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The mites are pretty well minimized, but the fact that there are still a few around just bothers the shit out of me. The pyrethrin's work pretty well, but I hate to use them so often, despite their relative safety The residue from habanero peppers, while relatively safe, doesn't dissipate so readily,, if you have ever sprayed something with pepper spray and use it a few years later, forgetting about the earlier dose of Capsaicin. It's not good for any type of breathing problems, although other treatments might not be any better.
 
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Jimster said:
I've been fighting these after a supposedly good friend returned some clones that I had given him. They didn't show up for a good while, and I tried a few different products, including Dr Dead Bug, or something similar. It helped, but then I switched to a pyrethrin based fogger, which worked great. At first. Maybe I didn't follow up enough, but I looked today and seem to have a 2nd wave after being in retreat for weeks. I'm going on 6th week of flowering and I'm continuing the pyrethrin foggers, but I really hate having that stuff on the plant, even though it degrades quickly. Is there anything made that is approved for use during flowering, besides garlic/peppers and sulfur? I can't wait for this grow to conclude so I can nuke everything, but I can't walk away from it at this point.
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Sunday687

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I have no mite experience or anything yet thankfully but i heard of people using predatory mites on them when there numbers are low to control them
 
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Jimster said:
A quick search indicated this product was more of a nutrient rather than bug control. Did I miss something?
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Jimster said:
A quick search indicated this product was more of a nutrient rather than bug control. Did I miss something?
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Get some lady bugs (a lot of garden centers sell them) or get some more predatory mites. I’m treating my veg tent for possible spider mites by rotating neem, spinosad, Azamax, and azera every 3 days. For PM, carefully remove any fan leaves, increase air flow then at harvest dip your buds in a peroxide solution to remove any PM. Just ride it out at this point. PM loves humid and cold and spider mites thrive in heat and dry, shitty luck friend! Don’t start any new grows after this and you’ll need to bleach EVERYTHING when you’re done. I prefer organic but I don’t fuck around when it comes to certain pests, sometimes you need the chemicals. Also, Azamax is safe during flower and I think Azera is too. A little Azamax be added to the the water when you water the plants and kill the spider mites systemically.
 
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