Ethiopian Bagseed + Mutant

CannaGas · May 4, 2019

Overview
So I recently started growing weed and since it's obviously illegal here, I doubt I could get proper genetics shipped. That's why I'm using left over seeds from pickups. I doubt I will grow anything amazing since the quality of the ganja in this country isnt all too great and I'm very inexperienced with this. Most people dont even know shit about the plant, you could ask a dealer "Do you have any sativas?" and he would respond "Sativa? I dont have sativa I have weed." :/ Its actually depressing how little variety there is. What you get is what you get. Most of the weed is indica dominant hybrids though it is surprising since you would expect sativas in Africa. It makes sense that growers choose indicas and dont touch landrace sativas due to the shorter flowering time and height. But even among indicas its rare to find consciously bred varieties. That doesnt mean all the weed is the same though, people just treat it like it is. There is almost always a 100% chance that your not smoking the same weed if you buy it from different sources. There are strains with different highs that I want to try to grow and breed exclusively. I started collecting seeds and labeled them according to where I got them from and plan on treating them as if they were my own "psuedo-landrace" strains to breed F1's. I'm still far off from breeding though. I'm bad at growing the plant in the first place, my first grow failed horribly due to stupid mistakes which is why I joined this site and began researching online more and watching videos relating to pretty much everything about growing weed. Anyways, here is what I'm growing at the moment. I didnt get a chance to smoke the weed from which the seeds came from but a friend gave them to me. He usually smokes the most sleepy and hard hitting indicas he could find so I more or less have an idea of what I'm growing. Two of them come from the same pickup while one of them came from another batch. The first two came with some kief and residue which had a heavy chocolately smell so I'm excited about growing that. Not much else is known about the other one. I still have a far ways off to go and hope to get guidance during my grow so I dont mess up again. One of the plants from the chocolate weed ended up growing 3 finger leaves on the first set of leaves so I am really hopeful this mutant will be something new, who knows maybe it will grow 15 finger leaves once it matures.

Setup
Its gonna be pretty clear that I am on a budget. Even if I had the money I couldnt find grow tents, pH testers, and HID lamps easily here. So I just used soil from my garden. Im not sure about the pH but I used clay soil in my previous grow which is more alkaline so I'm guessing this would be a bit more acidic. Its got composted cow manure and is dark and rich so I expect that it wont be as bad. For lighting, I was using 3 LED light bulbs at a total of 170 watts, two were 65 and one was 40 but the latter stopped working and I'll get that replaced soon. I want to get as much watts as possible but as I said I'm on a budget. And for air conditioning, take a guess at what I'm doing lol.

This first picture was taken at about 9 days old.

The first two are the ones from the chocolate flavored weed. I took these pictures around day 12. Growth is quite slow and I suspect it was because I was barely opening the windows so there wasnt a good flow of carbon dioxide. I cant be around the plants 24/7 so I'm considering getting a fan. I'm leaving the windows open more often now. No one can see the plants easily so I'm not worried about security at the moment. Or it could have been an improper watering system. I would let the soil absorb water from its drainage holes by filling a plastic bag with water in which I put the pots in. The soil would constantly stay moist and I wasnt certain it would be a problem until a few days ago when I thankfully was shown the error of my ways on this forum and began doing a dry/wet cycle. I'm not sure if I should be scared about the slow growth and if it will continue this way. The one on the left is growing much bigger than the other two which I guess is maybe lucky genetics. I dont think strain genetics are stabilized that well here so I'm expecting some variability with my plants. The three leaf mutant is also something to look at. I'm not sure exactly suspect from this one. I'm also aware that roots are sensitive to light which is why I wrapped a sheet of paper around the pots as seen in the third pic. The first two were taken before I did that.

Mattyflix · May 5, 2019

CannaGas said:
Overview
So I recently started growing weed and since it's obviously illegal here, I doubt I could get proper genetics shipped. That's why I'm using left over seeds from pickups. I doubt I will grow anything amazing since the quality of the ganja in this country isnt all too great and I'm very inexperienced with this. Most people dont even know shit about the plant, you could ask a dealer "Do you have any sativas?" and he would respond "Sativa? I dont have sativa I have weed." :/ Its actually depressing how little variety there is. What you get is what you get. Most of the weed is indica dominant hybrids though it is surprising since you would expect sativas in Africa. It makes sense that growers choose indicas and dont touch landrace sativas due to the shorter flowering time and height. But even among indicas its rare to find consciously bred varieties. That doesnt mean all the weed is the same though, people just treat it like it is. There is almost always a 100% chance that your not smoking the same weed if you buy it from different sources. There are strains with different highs that I want to try to grow and breed exclusively. I started collecting seeds and labeled them according to where I got them from and plan on treating them as if they were my own "psuedo-landrace" strains to breed F1's. I'm still far off from breeding though. I'm bad at growing the plant in the first place, my first grow failed horribly due to stupid mistakes which is why I joined this site and began researching online more and watching videos relating to pretty much everything about growing weed. Anyways, here is what I'm growing at the moment. I didnt get a chance to smoke the weed from which the seeds came from but a friend gave them to me. He usually smokes the most sleepy and hard hitting indicas he could find so I more or less have an idea of what I'm growing. Two of them come from the same pickup while one of them came from another batch. The first two came with some kief and residue which had a heavy chocolately smell so I'm excited about growing that. Not much else is known about the other one. I still have a far ways off to go and hope to get guidance during my grow so I dont mess up again. One of the plants from the chocolate weed ended up growing 3 finger leaves on the first set of leaves so I am really hopeful this mutant will be something new, who knows maybe it will grow 15 finger leaves once it matures.

Setup
Its gonna be pretty clear that I am on a budget. Even if I had the money I couldnt find grow tents, pH testers, and HID lamps easily here. So I just used soil from my garden. Im not sure about the pH but I used clay soil in my previous grow which is more alkaline so I'm guessing this would be a bit more acidic. Its got composted cow manure and is dark and rich so I expect that it wont be as bad. For lighting, I was using 3 LED light bulbs at a total of 170 watts, two were 65 and one was 40 but the latter stopped working and I'll get that replaced soon. I want to get as much watts as possible but as I said I'm on a budget. And for air conditioning, take a guess at what I'm doing lol.

This first picture was taken at about 9 days old.
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The first two are the ones from the chocolate flavored weed. I took these pictures around day 12. Growth is quite slow and I suspect it was because I was barely opening the windows so there wasnt a good flow of carbon dioxide. I cant be around the plants 24/7 so I'm considering getting a fan. I'm leaving the windows open more often now. No one can see the plants easily so I'm not worried about security at the moment. Or it could have been an improper watering system. I would let the soil absorb water from its drainage holes by filling a plastic bag with water in which I put the pots in. The soil would constantly stay moist and I wasnt certain it would be a problem until a few days ago when I thankfully was shown the error of my ways on this forum and began doing a dry/wet cycle. I'm not sure if I should be scared about the slow growth and if it will continue this way. The one on the left is growing much bigger than the other two which I guess is maybe lucky genetics. I dont think strain genetics are stabilized that well here so I'm expecting some variability with my plants. The three leaf mutant is also something to look at. I'm not sure exactly suspect from this one. I'm also aware that roots are sensitive to light which is why I wrapped a sheet of paper around the pots as seen in the third pic. The first two were taken before I did that.
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Are you crazy mate. Some of the best weed I’ve ever smoked has come From shashamane. I wouldn’t say it’s the prettiest, but the quality of the high is amazing. We’re talking equilateral sativa brother. Anything that is grown for more than a few years here starts to have sativa tendencies because of the suns intensity. I suggest finding a good Rasta connect that has roots in Shashamane and all your problems will be solved. To be honest, I don’t see the benefit of growing inside when you are in the most perfect outdoor growing environment. There’s even 2 separate growing seasons per year. What you gonna do when the power cuts out. We both know that happens all the time. Any ways. Good luck my friend. Maybe we bump into one another in Addis one day. I’m in ethiopia 4 moths out of the year.

CannaGas · May 5, 2019

Mattyflix said:
Are you crazy mate. Some of the best weed I’ve ever smoked has come From shashamane. I wouldn’t say it’s the prettiest, but the quality of the high is amazing. We’re talking equilateral sativa brother. Anything that is grown for more than a few years here starts to have sativa tendencies because of the suns intensity. I suggest finding a good Rasta connect that has roots in Shashamane and all your problems will be solved. To be honest, I don’t see the benefit of growing inside when you are in the most perfect outdoor growing environment. There’s even 2 separate growing seasons per year. What you gonna do when the power cuts out. We both know that happens all the time. Any ways. Good luck my friend. Maybe we bump into one another in Addis one day. I’m in ethiopia 4 moths out of the year.

If there is sativa to be smoked here, its not easy to find. I've had friends that smoked pure sativa that was grown here but everyone I know says its not easy to come by. I'm not so sure about shashamane growing sativa since my sister told me that she's visited the town a long time ago and got a chance to see the farms. I've asked her about the plants and she said they were short, probably 4 foot high. Maybe they were young sativa's who knows. I would get my hands on sativa's the second I got a chance but theyre pretty hard to find. Maybe im looking in the wrong places however. As for growing outdoors, security is the biggest issue, more and more people are smoking and more and more people are getting caught with the law all over the city. A couple weeks back there was a news report about a massive shipment of weed being transported to Kenya. 600 kilos in a truck and it was all seized. Shame. The only major challenge I've faced with growing indoors is the power going out as youve said. I always keep an emergency light though its not as strong. I might consider guerrilla growing if I find a good spot though.

CannaGas · May 7, 2019

Day 17
The plants have grown a lot more. One thing I like to do when growing is to name my phenos. It adds a layer of personality to the plants. I named the mutant Mutant, the bigger one Titan, and the other one Middle Child because its right between the smallest and biggest plants. Mutant has become really interesting, its first set of true leaves are completely different from each other. One looks like the Ducks Foot/Frisian Duck strain while the leaf on the other side looks normal. I really wanna see how this turns out. I think the reason Titan is as big as it is might be because of its growing medium. I realized that when I was collecting my dirt, I got the top layer of composted manure in one plastic bag while actual soil was in another and I forgot to mix them up before planting. Middle Child and Mutant got only the manure while Titan got proper soil. This is a mistake on my part but it doesn't seem like the plants are dying or have a nutrient deficiency so I'm not too worried. I'll be sure to not do it again though, I want all my plants to be Titans. Aside from Mutant because its special, MC and Titan clearly seem to be Indicas due to their fat leaves just as I expected.

CannaGas · May 18, 2019

This was from day 24, the other two plants are still growing slowly so I just left them by the window to grow naturally on their own. I still water them but I'm focusing all my efforts into the larger plant and two other seeds that I planted. Titan began side branches and is gonna get transplanted soon due to the roots coming out the drainage holes. What I find really interesting is that Mutant has thin and narrow leaves unlike the other two plants. The seeds all came from the same plant though so I doubt it might be a sativa dominant pheno. Is it likely that indica plants can have sativa-like leaves?

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Jimster · May 18, 2019

From what I can see, the two plants look to be a Sativa hybrid, while the one with the skinny leaves looks to be very Sativa dominant. Sativa, Indica, and hybrids all grow a little differently, and the early leaves can often be misleading. It's not too unusual to get a few different pheno's from seeds, since the father is unknown and could be from a different strain than the seed growing next to it, unless you are growing indoors and can better control male pollen. Unless the plants came from a massive grow somewhere, the genetics will vary considerably. Large and established fields are usually a lot more stable since all of the plants are related to each other... after a while they are all very similar and considered Landrace strains, something that is quickly becoming endangered, IMHO.

CannaGas · May 18, 2019

Jimster said:
From what I can see, the two plants look to be a Sativa hybrid, while the one with the skinny leaves looks to be very Sativa dominant. Sativa, Indica, and hybrids all grow a little differently, and the early leaves can often be misleading. It's not too unusual to get a few different pheno's from seeds, since the father is unknown and could be from a different strain than the seed growing next to it, unless you are growing indoors and can better control male pollen. Unless the plants came from a massive grow somewhere, the genetics will vary considerably. Large and established fields are usually a lot more stable since all of the plants are related to each other... after a while they are all very similar and considered Landrace strains, something that is quickly becoming endangered, IMHO.

I heard DJ short say that after about 5 generations a strain would stabilize and essentially become a landrace strain. Pseudo-landrace more like but still. What I’ve heard of massive grows aside from shashamane is people throwing a bunch of seeds around one discreet spot. But clearly as seen in the grow the plants are not stable at all. One thing I’ve thought about is that maybe someone might have brought indica genetics a long time ago and due to all the lack of separating males in the grow spots, the foreign indicas would pollinate the sativa landraces. Just a suspicion but I’m really puzzled that they’re showing sativa dominant traits since the weed my buddy smokes is the sleepiest of indicas. But can the effects of the bud be determined by leaf shape? Is it possible that the thin leaved pheno might have a couchlock high?

Jimster · May 18, 2019

CannaGas said:
Is it possible that the thin leaved pheno might have a couchlock high?

Yes. The collection of buds that you bought likely came from a few different plants, so who knows what lurks in their genetics. Couch lock is generally associated with Indica plants, but some of the Sativa's are very potent and will just wipe you out, regardless of the cerebral high generally associated with Sativa's. There are all types of newer strains...every time someone mixes plants a new one is created and some are great while some are less great. You never know what a cross will turn out like, or even 2nd gen pheno from a cross can be great, that's what makes genetics fun!

PlumberSoCal · May 18, 2019

CannaGas said:
I heard DJ short say that after about 5 generations a strain would stabilize and essentially become a landrace strain. Pseudo-landrace more like but still. What I’ve heard of massive grows aside from shashamane is people throwing a bunch of seeds around one discreet spot. But clearly as seen in the grow the plants are not stable at all. One thing I’ve thought about is that maybe someone might have brought indica genetics a long time ago and due to all the lack of separating males in the grow spots, the foreign indicas would pollinate the sativa landraces. Just a suspicion but I’m really puzzled that they’re showing sativa dominant traits since the weed my buddy smokes is the sleepiest of indicas. But can the effects of the bud be determined by leaf shape? Is it possible that the thin leaved pheno might have a couchlock high?

Plants from seeds from the same mom and dad, F2 Chemdog x Brutus OG. A lot of Sativa in those genes yet F2 is showing more Indica this generation. That's the only one of a dozen with the classic Sativa pheno.

The bscis genitcs are there in very seed. Unfortunately some will carry negative traits, like slow grower, smaller adult size, etc but even some of these will be something to work with and produce another generation and allow you to start dozens of seeds at a time and chose the best of the best. Keep producing season after season and the plants will become accustomed to your growing medium and perform even better.

All seeds have the potential to produce what you're looking for (personally I'm good with good smoke, call me crazy) and the ability to continue to grow it.

Grow some tomatoes and basil. What you'll from that will help.

I have no idea how to grow under lights, sun and dirt rocks, but only if you can safely do it.

Good job, btw.

CannaGas · May 19, 2019

PlumberSoCal said:
Plants from seeds from the same mom and dad, F2 Chemdog x Brutus OG. A lot of Sativa in those genes yet F2 is showing more Indica this generation. That's the only one of a dozen with the classic Sativa pheno.

The bscis genitcs are there in very seed. Unfortunately some will carry negative traits, like slow grower, smaller adult size, etc but even some of these will be something to work with and produce another generation and allow you to start dozens of seeds at a time and chose the best of the best. Keep producing season after season and the plants will become accustomed to your growing medium and perform even better.

All seeds have the potential to produce what you're looking for (personally I'm good with good smoke, call me crazy) and the ability to continue to grow it.

Grow some tomatoes and basil. What you'll from that will help.

I have no idea how to grow under lights, sun and dirt rocks, but only if you can safely do it.

Good job, btw.

I might look into growing tomatoes too. As for the weed plants I will definitively breed selectively, if one of them is a male I wanna cross the sativa dominant with the larger plant or store the pollen for the other 2 seeds I planted. Those strains are more sativa dominant from my experience so I’m really excited to be able to preserve this pheno’s genetics. And your plants look great, what would you except from the indica dominant?

PlumberSoCal · May 19, 2019

CannaGas said:
I might look into growing tomatoes too. As for the weed plants I will definitively breed selectively, if one of them is a male I wanna cross the sativa dominant with the larger plant or store the pollen for the other 2 seeds I planted. Those strains are more sativa dominant from my experience so I’m really excited to be able to preserve this pheno’s genetics. And your plants look great, what would you except from the indica dominant?

I prefer Indica for pain relief and plan on setting that line. I currently have one lone male, Indica leaning but planted six more seeds so we'll see. Either way I will cross them all and continue to work them both. I wouldn't mind working both separately.

Too much inbreeding can be detrimental and out crossing should be done within several generations. I can't put a number of generations when that should be done but I've found between 3-5 is good. At F2 I'm looking for Chemdog seeds so next year or the year after I can cross it back in. I'm also looking for Northern Lights (my all time fav) to cross into the Indica pheno.

Keep collecting seeds, you never know what you might get and out crossing should give you stronger plants with the pheno's you're looking for.

Keep a grow log with pictures. After a few years that log will become invaluable.

Over 25 years ago I bred tropical fish and developed an all black Angelfish with a turquoise face starting from two gold Angels. It took five years and the pairs continued to produce a small percentage of gold offspring and those gold fish would produce a small percentage of black. Genetics are interesting and I've found understanding in one type of animal transfers to other species, including plants with sexual reproduction. Asexual reproduction is a different type of animal and does happen in cannabis with hermaphrodites which produce feminised seeds retaining the genetics.

Enjoy the journey, read all you can find but remember, experience far outweighs anything anyone can teach you.

CannaGas · May 19, 2019

PlumberSoCal said:
I prefer Indica for pain relief and plan on setting that line. I currently have one lone male, Indica leaning but planted six more seeds so we'll see. Either way I will cross them all and continue to work them both. I wouldn't mind working both separately.

Too much inbreeding can be detrimental and out crossing should be done within several generations. I can't put a number of generations when that should be done but I've found between 3-5 is good. At F2 I'm looking for Chemdog seeds so next year or the year after I can cross it back in. I'm also looking for Northern Lights (my all time fav) to cross into the Indica pheno.

Keep collecting seeds, you never know what you might get and out crossing should give you stronger plants with the pheno's you're looking for.

Keep a grow log with pictures. After a few years that log will become invaluable.

Over 25 years ago I bred tropical fish and developed an all black Angelfish with a turquoise face starting from two gold Angels. It took five years and the pairs continued to produce a small percentage of gold offspring and those gold fish would produce a small percentage of black. Genetics are interesting and I've found understanding in one type of animal transfers to other species, including plants with sexual reproduction. Asexual reproduction is a different type of animal and does happen in cannabis with hermaphrodites which produce feminised seeds retaining the genetics.

Enjoy the journey, read all you can find but remember, experience far outweighs anything anyone can teach you.

Breeding fish and weed! Thats pretty cool not gonna lie. I understand that the knowledge and experience could transfer onto your plants as well. Thanks for the advice, seems really useful. As for the grow log I've been doing that since my first grow. The process of reviewing everything I've done and seen with my plants from day to day and recording everything is actually really enjoyable. Do you often look back at older grow logs? And how does that help?

PlumberSoCal · May 19, 2019

CannaGas said:
Breeding fish and weed! Thats pretty cool not gonna lie. I understand that the knowledge and experience could transfer onto your plants as well. Thanks for the advice, seems really useful. As for the grow log I've been doing that since my first grow. The process of reviewing everything I've done and seen with my plants from day to day and recording everything is actually really enjoyable. Do you often look back at older grow logs? And how does that help?

I don't even bother anymore with the logs and use pictures to record dates. The last log I did was 5 or 6 years ago and yeah, when I come across them (several years in each binder) I'll thumb through 'em and remember what a lot of work it was logging all that info but many smiles remembering some of the production.

One year I planted 10 tomato plants less than 1' apart in a row (I was out of room in ready garden space) against all advice. I even watered them with a sprinkler, a big no no. I've never produced more tomatoes before or since.

Between this site and a general gardening site I spend time on I've got everything plus other grower's thoughts.

I've found the worst thing we farmers can do is over mother our plants. It takes time for plants to grow and mature and we refuse to allow them that time and try to speed it up. I fertilize once a month with composted horse manure and Garden-tone Herb & Vegetable Food and mulch with organic straw (most straw sold has herbicides). Really what I'm doing is feeding the soil. I also use horse manure tea at 10 days of age and weekly on my wife's flowers.

Got off on a tangent. Sorry...

PlumberSoCal · May 19, 2019

CannaGas said:
Breeding fish and weed! Thats pretty cool not gonna lie. I understand that the knowledge and experience could transfer onto your plants as well. Thanks for the advice, seems really useful. As for the grow log I've been doing that since my first grow. The process of reviewing everything I've done and seen with my plants from day to day and recording everything is actually really enjoyable. Do you often look back at older grow logs? And how does that help?

I haven't kept fish for over a decade but last week I paid $0.46 for two white colored gold fish for a half wine barrel with a solar pump. It's raining again today but that little pump is getting enough light to spurt every few seconds.

Most people end up killing fish by over feeding, kinda like we do with weed.

CannaGas · May 30, 2019

So these pictures were taken yesterday at day 39. I transplanted the biggest one a few days earlier and luckily there was no transplant shock at all. The leaves were slightly droopy and bounced right back by the second day of the transplant. This plant was experienced a nitrogen deficiency which is what rushed me to transplant as soon as possible. The first set of leaves dropped off after severe yellowing. The rest of the leaves are fine and the plant is on its 7th node. I’m hoping that it would get it’s growth spurt soon now that it’s in a 4 gallon pot. Growth seems to be slower than what I’ve seen online but I don’t wanna be impatient since that’s what caused my previous grow to fail. I’m soon gonna transplant the other plants. I also germinated 2 more seeds that are on their 2nd or 3 week I think. Hopefully I’ll get something great from these plants :)

CannaGas · Jun 2, 2019

So the plants are 6 weeks old and the two seedlings are at 3 weeks. I'm going to transplant the other two soon. At this point I also wanna start topping and low stress training. The biggest one is growing its 8th node and the other two are at their 7th. I feel that the plants are really small though. Could this be because of genetics or did I fuck up?

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Jimster · Jun 2, 2019

CannaGas said:
Breeding fish and weed! Thats pretty cool not gonna lie. I understand that the knowledge and experience could transfer onto your plants as well. Thanks for the advice, seems really useful. As for the grow log I've been doing that since my first grow. The process of reviewing everything I've done and seen with my plants from day to day and recording everything is actually really enjoyable. Do you often look back at older grow logs? And how does that help?

The local hydro shop has a setup with a large aquarium full of fish, mostly small tropical fish, but a lot of them. There is no filter on the aquarium, instead he pumps the water into a hydro grow setup. The fish produce a lot of waste that the plants love and remove from the water...a true symbiotic grow that worked pretty well. The fish were nice too! If you bought one of the hydro systems, they gave you a bunch of fish too! I stuck with Promix for growing, but talked them out of a few guppies that have yielded some interesting crosses, much like growing unknown seeds.

CannaGas · Jun 29, 2019

Day 70
The plants have all been transplanted by now and I switched to 12/12. The 3 biggest plants from the same batch all have alternating nodes now while the biggest one already started flowering. It’s got bright white pistols but unfortunately it’s a hermie. Makes sense though since it’s bag seed. None of the other plants are showing flowers or the same growth like the biggest one. I suppose the hermie trait is not too bad I’ll atleast have seeds that might have the same growth and vigor. I’ve completely abandoned the artificial lights cuz power is going out a lot. The plants seems to show more vigor in the window room but there’s a lot of stretching. Likely because it’s winter here and there’s not sunlight because of the rain. I don’t expect much from my yields but I know now to flower at the right time. My biggest concern right now is the stretching to be expecting during flowering. They’re already huge and I’ve failed to use enough stress training. I’ll start LST as soon as possible to have some sort of control over their height.

Jimster · Jun 29, 2019

It's good that you are learning the ins and outs of basic growing before trying anything too difficult. Although your plants are tall, they are very sparse (thinly leafed) for the size, although some strains are much lankier or bushier than others. I feel that you need more intense light if at all possible. Stronger light will help keep the plants shorter and will increase their leaf growth and yield. I don't know how it could be done outdoors, although if outdoors it really shouldn't need much extra sun unless only partial sun. In my area, decades ago, I couldn't grow plants out in the open, and instead would plant them in semi sunny areas in the edges of the woods. They got some sun, but grew very lanky and didn't have many leaves. I got 1 or 2 buds off of it, maybe enough to roll about 5 joints or a few bowls. But it was my first grow that I managed to get buds from, and they were the tastiest ever. In reality they were probably lousy, but since they were my first, I thought they were great!!
Be careful with the seeds from the hermie plant. They will most likely be feminized seeds if they mature, but might carry the tendency to herm along with them. Just a FYI. Hermed plants seem a lot more common anymore. I'm not sure what strains are more likely, but it happens a lot more. All in all you have done pretty well, although your current weather doesn't help matters. Where about (in general terms) are you located? Obviously in the southern hemisphere. Keep up the good work and continue to make small improvements and soon you will be an old pro! :)

CannaGas · Jun 29, 2019

Jimster said:
It's good that you are learning the ins and outs of basic growing before trying anything too difficult. Although your plants are tall, they are very sparse (thinly leafed) for the size, although some strains are much lankier or bushier than others. I feel that you need more intense light if at all possible. Stronger light will help keep the plants shorter and will increase their leaf growth and yield. I don't know how it could be done outdoors, although if outdoors it really shouldn't need much extra sun unless only partial sun. In my area, decades ago, I couldn't grow plants out in the open, and instead would plant them in semi sunny areas in the edges of the woods. They got some sun, but grew very lanky and didn't have many leaves. I got 1 or 2 buds off of it, maybe enough to roll about 5 joints or a few bowls. But it was my first grow that I managed to get buds from, and they were the tastiest ever. In reality they were probably lousy, but since they were my first, I thought they were great!!
Be careful with the seeds from the hermie plant. They will most likely be feminized seeds if they mature, but might carry the tendency to herm along with them. Just a FYI. Hermed plants seem a lot more common anymore. I'm not sure what strains are more likely, but it happens a lot more. All in all you have done pretty well, although your current weather doesn't help matters. Where about (in general terms) are you located? Obviously in the southern hemisphere. Keep up the good work and continue to make small improvements and soon you will be an old pro! :)

Thanks! As for my location I’m right at the equator. In Ethiopia. Generally the climate has only two seasons, summer and winter. There’s no fall or spring a since I’m really close to the equator. The weather should get back to clear and sunny days within a few months so I will plan out my next grow to flower around then. And due to the immense stretching I think I’ll veg my plants under the artificial lights and flower them outside when the time comes. So far I’m really happy with I’ve got. Obviously I didn’t expect to get pounds from the plants but I’ve learned a lot so far and I’m sure my next crops will improve exponentially.

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