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These are clones that I have had 2 weeks. They started yellowing right away and I thought adding a little nitrogen but that has not seemed to work. It is possible on a first watering that I had my ph off but have corrected that. They are in inexpensive organic soil - have been on fox farms at 1/2 strength - 4 600w leds. They might look a little dry this morning but that is for a reason - I plan to transplant today and want to get rid of as much dirt as possible. 1/2 of my plants are OK with proper green leaves other 1/2 like this. Thanks for any advice to help me not loose these.
 
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These are clones that I have had 2 weeks. They started yellowing right away and I thought adding a little nitrogen but that has not seemed to work. It is possible on a first watering that I had my ph off but have corrected that. They are in inexpensive organic soil - have been on fox farms at 1/2 strength - 4 600w leds. They might look a little dry this morning but that is for a reason - I plan to transplant today and want to get rid of as much dirt as possible. 1/2 of my plants are OK with proper green leaves other 1/2 like this. Thanks for any advice to help me not loose these.
what type feed are you using,in veg you want to have more N than PandK,once they get a bit bigger ,less N and more Pand K,what ppm are you feeding at right now,i know you mentioned half strength of fox products,is it the trio? by trying to dial in on what you think it needs can be locking the plant up,veg require more N but to much can lock out the others if you dig,so balance is what you need next watering just plain ph water ,give it time to turn back around,ive used fox ,there ok ,but there feed schedule is shit same as other manufactures always way to much ,for you to buy more,they could care or less what your plant doing,that when they throw all those other amends to you to be the magic bullet,they dont,use just the trio,about 2 weeks into flower give um some cha ching once,if they do good wait a month do it again,so im thinking water next time drop back down to 1/4 strength and start at them again and work up,by that time the plant will be stabile,then instead of going 1/4 or 1/2 go by ppm in your water to work it up,like a hundred at a time,those clones right there should be around 500 to 700 ppm,anyway just my 2 cent maybe it will help if you take it,welcome to the farm im oldy and glad to help if you need it
 
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Thank you for responding. I apologize but how do you figure ppm? This is my 4th grow and the first time I think I got nute lock. I transplanted them today and hope that will help me get the girls back on track. I used the fox trio last time and had issues with over fertilizing. because they were only at week 2 I had just watered them with the 1st of the trio the big bloom I think I might go back to bontanicare I sure wasn't on this yo yo.
 
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Thank you for responding. I apologize but how do you figure ppm? This is my 4th grow and the first time I think I got nute lock. I transplanted them today and hope that will help me get the girls back on track. I used the fox trio last time and had issues with over fertilizing. because they were only at week 2 I had just watered them with the 1st of the trio the big bloom I think I might go back to bontanicare I sure wasn't on this yo yo.
i mentioned it because when problem arrive ,always go back to simple,those are good looking clones,a few didnt like what you feed,so by taking those 2 ppm down say 100 ppm you might have better luck,that could also go other way as in rising them 2 for more,ive had plants that were hogs,especailly the blue dream feed hogs,they could take manufacture suggestion and then some,then ive had some that never got to 1/4 strength,i got about 4 strains that take nothing but water,every time i try to feed them nutrient other than the soil,they shit down my neck.im not saying your inexperienced or any thing that way,imjust sayine drop or rise the feed by ppm instead of quarters if you dig what im saying,1/4 strength of on line might be difrent with another line,so dont give up mix and fix by ppm not suggested feed schedule chart,ph is most important,working by ppm or ec is the way to go,who knows you could have got 2 week old product or 5 yr on the shelf products,you feel me,sorry about thinking you were new,after i comment check to see if you were another joker that jions the farm and gets questions answered and then you never see um again,never seen you ,hang around more often,share some your stories and methods,always need helping hands in the human factor,fresh ideas what keep all going,sorry if i interfered
 
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It looks like over feeding to me. If you are adding fertilizer to Fox Farms soils, then you are probably too high on the nutrients for some of the plants. Different strains seem to prefer different levels/PPMs of nutrients. Too much can cause nutrient lockout as well as being toxic to the plant to some degree. I prefer to use a LOT less nutrients than most growers and still have good results. I have seen a lot more overfeeding issues with Fox Farm products than I have seen issues that required additions to the soil/mix. This is just my opinion as everyone has heir own preferred method for growing. As long as it works well and consistently, it's a good method!
 
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It looks like over feeding to me. If you are adding fertilizer to Fox Farms soils, then you are probably too high on the nutrients for some of the plants. Different strains seem to prefer different levels/PPMs of nutrients. Too much can cause nutrient lockout as well as being toxic to the plant to some degree. I prefer to use a LOT less nutrients than most growers and still have good results. I have seen a lot more overfeeding issues with Fox Farm products than I have seen issues that required additions to the soil/mix. This is just my opinion as everyone has heir own preferred method for growing. As long as it works well and consistently, it's a good method!
P.H looks outta wack as well. Too low.
 
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i mentioned it because when problem arrive ,always go back to simple,those are good looking clones,a few didnt like what you feed,so by taking those 2 ppm down say 100 ppm you might have better luck,that could also go other way as in rising them 2 for more,ive had plants that were hogs,especailly the blue dream feed hogs,they could take manufacture suggestion and then some,then ive had some that never got to 1/4 strength,i got about 4 strains that take nothing but water,every time i try to feed them nutrient other than the soil,they shit down my neck.im not saying your inexperienced or any thing that way,imjust sayine drop or rise the feed by ppm instead of quarters if you dig what im saying,1/4 strength of on line might be difrent with another line,so dont give up mix and fix by ppm not suggested feed schedule chart,ph is most important,working by ppm or ec is the way to go,who knows you could have got 2 week old product or 5 yr on the shelf products,you feel me,sorry about thinking you were new,after i comment check to see if you were another joker that jions the farm and gets questions answered and then you never see um again,never seen you ,hang around more often,share some your stories and methods,always need helping hands in the human factor,fresh ideas what keep all going,sorry if i interfered
What are the 4 stains that you don't feed? That would be great information. I have to drive several hours over mountains that can be a mess in winter to get clones and as it's my only place to get clones (been ripped off on bud trader) I wind up with clones that I can't even find height information on! So learning as much as I can about the different needs of strains would be very helpful.

I am new! I am also on here quite a bit and appreciate everyone - It's my best way to learn so far. But a lot of learning has resulted from mistakes. I started using led's when there wasn't much info on them yet and burned by $200 seedlings by having the lights to close to the new starts -🤬 I didn't catch a hermi on my 2nd grow and it wrecked the whole tent. Heartbreaking time consuming mistake. The help with growing information on here is priceless and the people that take time to help the new ones of us are appreciated. I'm an older medical patient so my thought process and understanding of you younger ones language might be challenged but I'm trying. I have found that weed has helped me enormously with pain but to be taking it all the time - well the cost is prohibitive so I need to learn and not kill my plants! Thank you - will dial the neuts way back.
 
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It looks like over feeding to me. If you are adding fertilizer to Fox Farms soils, then you are probably too high on the nutrients for some of the plants. Different strains seem to prefer different levels/PPMs of nutrients. Too much can cause nutrient lockout as well as being toxic to the plant to some degree. I prefer to use a LOT less nutrients than most growers and still have good results. I have seen a lot more overfeeding issues with Fox Farm products than I have seen issues that required additions to the soil/mix. This is just my opinion as everyone has heir own preferred method for growing. As long as it works well and consistently, it's a good method!
Jimster - you have helped me before - thank you! I totally agree with you regarding fox farms and over feeding. My brain works with what it says on a chart - looking at the fox farm trio how much product would you add to your water? My plants are now 3 weeks old - the chart says 6 teaspoons per gallon big bloom and 3 tsps grow big. On the 4 that I have that are really yellow - just water for a while or feed because may be yellow from neut lockout? Thanks for your thoughts.

I have these bottles of fox farms that I want to get through - then I'm going to try something else. Sad that their directions burn plants.
 
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What are the 4 stains that you don't feed? That would be great information. I have to drive several hours over mountains that can be a mess in winter to get clones and as it's my only place to get clones (been ripped off on bud trader) I wind up with clones that I can't even find height information on! So learning as much as I can about the different needs of strains would be very helpful.

I am new! I am also on here quite a bit and appreciate everyone - It's my best way to learn so far. But a lot of learning has resulted from mistakes. I started using led's when there wasn't much info on them yet and burned by $200 seedlings by having the lights to close to the new starts -🤬 I didn't catch a hermi on my 2nd grow and it wrecked the whole tent. Heartbreaking time consuming mistake. The help with growing information on here is priceless and the people that take time to help the new ones of us are appreciated. I'm an older medical patient so my thought process and understanding of you younger ones language might be challenged but I'm trying. I have found that weed has helped me enormously with pain but to be taking it all the time - well the cost is prohibitive so I need to learn and not kill my plants! Thank you - will dial the neuts way back.
thats sad imo,i have to ask this,did you spray your clones in quarintine before you run in your veg room,clones are a headache when you dont do them your self,always damn bugs, me for the dealer of the strains im talking about,i will refer his seeds,but the joker that runs all these cannibis forums pushing his line ,i dont care for,he gets discounts for his so lie his ass off
 
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thats sad imo,i have to ask this,did you spray your clones in quarintine before you run in your veg room,clones are a headache when you dont do them your self,always damn bugs, me for the dealer of the strains im talking about,i will refer his seeds,but the joker that runs all these cannibis forums pushing his line ,i dont care for,he gets discounts for his so lie his ass off
I did spray but then didn't again for a week. I didn't quarantine as last crop harvested. The plants looked really clean but a few days after 2nd spray finding thrips. So got to turn around my yellow girls and eradicate thrips!
I have tried seeds and maybe will go back to that. It's just I didn't have such great luck on getting them to sprout and they are expensive. Then they take an extra 2 or 3 weeks and I like to take a couple of breaks away from growing. But I guess I am going to be forced to do this as the clones I do get seem to have pests within a week. There are definitely some plants that I want to grow - Chemdaug, Green crack, Tahoe og - that its impossible to find clones so I have thought about seeds - but then I really do need to keep a mother to clone and here we go with needing another tent and for sure never being able to get away - and so it goes.

It would be wonderful if I knew a reliable dealer of clones that wasn't an all day drive. It would be wonderful if there was a local group of growers who shared info, plants, product and possible baby sitting. Life is made for dreaming!

Do you have a big operation? What are the 4 strains that you don't feed!!??
 
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I did spray but then didn't again for a week. I didn't quarantine as last crop harvested. The plants looked really clean but a few days after 2nd spray finding thrips. So got to turn around my yellow girls and eradicate thrips!
I have tried seeds and maybe will go back to that. It's just I didn't have such great luck on getting them to sprout and they are expensive. Then they take an extra 2 or 3 weeks and I like to take a couple of breaks away from growing. But I guess I am going to be forced to do this as the clones I do get seem to have pests within a week. There are definitely some plants that I want to grow - Chemdaug, Green crack, Tahoe og - that its impossible to find clones so I have thought about seeds - but then I really do need to keep a mother to clone and here we go with needing another tent and for sure never being able to get away - and so it goes.

It would be wonderful if I knew a reliable dealer of clones that wasn't an all day drive. It would be wonderful if there was a local group of growers who shared info, plants, product and possible baby sitting. Life is made for dreaming!

Do you have a big operation? What are the 4 strains that you don't feed!!??
yogi,vietnam black x punto roja,cherry bomb,im difrent from other folk,i dont give seed dealer names on open forum,kinda of a disrespect thing for me,they do sell seeds from this forum,old school way got you hurt trashing other dealers if you dig,but all the above mentioned sure as shit dont take feed,just water,the grower/breeder been doing it same way for years,i tried to boast the bitchs ,just for failure,might even be my soil ,i havent run them side by side with ocean forest and my soil mix,but sure wont take feeds at all,they be barking at you in hours hahaah.
gotta say the vietnam black x punto roja was my favorite,i cloned her 7 times if i remember right good shit for a twisted mind
 
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yogi,vietnam black x punto roja,cherry bomb,im difrent from other folk,i dont give seed dealer names on open forum,kinda of a disrespect thing for me,they do sell seeds from this forum,old school way got you hurt trashing other dealers if you dig,but all the above mentioned sure as shit dont take feed,just water,the grower/breeder been doing it same way for years,i tried to boast the bitchs ,just for failure,might even be my soil ,i havent run them side by side with ocean forest and my soil mix,but sure wont take feeds at all,they be barking at you in hours hahaah.
gotta say the vietnam black x punto roja was my favorite,i cloned her 7 times if i remember right good shit for a twisted mind
Those strains sound really interesting - would love to try. I was reading about black or chocolate diesel (forget which one) - couldn't even find seeds on that one. I think that when you get one of those rare strains you need to keep one for clones - I should have had children that I could put to work 😊.

I transplanted the yellow girls yesterday and they made it - now trying to figure out how to keep them that way. Will be another 3 days before water - you think I should water them a couple of times with straight water and no nutes?
 
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It looks like over feeding to me. If you are adding fertilizer to Fox Farms soils, then you are probably too high on the nutrients for some of the plants. Different strains seem to prefer different levels/PPMs of nutrients. Too much can cause nutrient lockout as well as being toxic to the plant to some degree. I prefer to use a LOT less nutrients than most growers and still have good results. I have seen a lot more overfeeding issues with Fox Farm products than I have seen issues that required additions to the soil/mix. This is just my opinion as everyone has heir own preferred method for growing. As long as it works well and consistently, it's a good method!
This ^ ...way to Green, I agree with Jim I think it's a lockout going on from too much nutrients, you got to stop feeding by schedules and start learning to observe what your plans are trying to tell you
 
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Jimster - you have helped me before - thank you! I totally agree with you regarding fox farms and over feeding. My brain works with what it says on a chart - looking at the fox farm trio how much product would you add to your water? My plants are now 3 weeks old - the chart says 6 teaspoons per gallon big bloom and 3 tsps grow big. On the 4 that I have that are really yellow - just water for a while or feed because may be yellow from neut lockout? Thanks for your thoughts.

I have these bottles of fox farms that I want to get through - then I'm going to try something else. Sad that their directions burn plants.
Checkout Master Blend, it's by far the finest nutrients I've ever used, and the price is very affordable

Jack's 3-2-1 is equally as good and Priced Right, but it's only available in 25 lbs. bags, whereas the Master Blend is available in a 5-pound bag for about 25 bucks and it will last a small indoor tent grower forever
 
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