Tikiknight1000
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Yea I also heard that if used in wrong measurements it could be bad for plant. I've used it the last two waterings and its actually helped my plant recover from overwatering among other issues caused by overwatering.
Tikiknight1000
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Thankfully I dont think I've used too much just yet. But I'm worried she may need Phosphates and potash which there are only trace amounts in my set up right now. Which is why I want to start by giving her a weak compost tea feed from the Dr. Earth Organic Fert in the morning.
growsince79
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Dr earth is good time release stuff. It lasts like 3 weeks when top dressing. Not sure about tea. Pee will work instantly, and your plants will love it.
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doesnt sound bad. I said it because it seems people can assume light burn only happens with heat. A light can be too intense and give failures completely unrelated to heat which can be apparent from one strain to the next. which happens worse in the earlier stages. But those bulbs dont sound too bad. Ive seen posts where people cooked seedlings with less. it takes a few days to a week for it to balance out when you adjust it back. Thats how i cooked my first grow. I kept thinking deficient and it showed all the signs so i kept adding nutes and then id add nutes again next watering til it was burnt to toast. People kept saying it needs P it needs K yada yada. Learned my lesson id rather have em stretch(better yet i get my lights spec'd for height) and know its not too close then shock the H out of them. I actually have one right now that this happened to that was too close to the lights i use for my clones and started to yellow and after i moved it thats when the bleach showed up and it bounced back within 3-4 days. Still is balancing it stuff out. One thing ive learned in that situation is the worse thing i can do is give it nutes as then it definitely ends up nute burned. But thats just my experience with my failures :)
i think whatever it is, its not so bad you wont be able to figure it out and enjoy it :)
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redshift75
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i actually have one that was completely cooked that bounced back its on about 3 months but i just didnt want to toss it since it can sit idly by in my tent wether it will veg or not doesnt cost me anything to keep it going and instead it will be the first plant ive ever mainlined and it happened naturally.... from my screw up :) :) :)
Tikiknight1000
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Yea I'm gonna take this as a learning experience and grow along with it lol pun intended
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growsince79
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The light is not too close for a healthy plant. Young healthy seedling can handle that light 2 -3 inches and thrive. You can get light burn from a 20w florescent light @ 8" if the plant doesn't have the right nutrients and water available. The sun at noon will kill my peppers the first couple weeks after transplant. But once the roots are established the can survive sunlight 10 times brighter than any led 1 foot away.
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mancorn
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Neither Superthrive or teas are actual fertilizer. You can put fertilizer in water and call it tea, but actually AACT is a method of producing microorganisms, which in turn convert organics fertilizers into plant available nutrients (over time). Normally a tea will contain stuff like kelp and fish hydrolysate, which are beneficial for your plants, but in a very low amount as it's actually for the gritters, not for your plants. (You might only have a few tablespoons of either in 5 gallons.) I've got no idea what is actually in the "tea" you have and assume it's a commercial product that isn't actually a tea. Not saying it's a shit product, but rather suggesting it may not be providing much nutrients (and almost always is slow acting).
The Superthrive is hormones and vitamins (and debatable if it does diddle). Once again if you want to use it, no problem, but it's not a fertilizer (or substitute for). So if you're looking for a quick fix, then you need to apply the actually nutrients you think you need. As has been mentioned pee in water is a better source of nitrogen then tea or ST. Most other organics are going to be slow acting. So you might just go with any of the major nutrient bottles like Dynagrow, Bonanical, Megacrop, General Hydroponics, etc. They all have a standard veg formula that will do the trick.
And don't forget that most organics will not register on a TDS/EC/PPM meter. So if you're using organics, you could have a super hot pot and still show a very low reading on your meter. So don't use it as a definitive guide if mixing and matching organics and salt based ferts.
The Superthrive is hormones and vitamins (and debatable if it does diddle). Once again if you want to use it, no problem, but it's not a fertilizer (or substitute for). So if you're looking for a quick fix, then you need to apply the actually nutrients you think you need. As has been mentioned pee in water is a better source of nitrogen then tea or ST. Most other organics are going to be slow acting. So you might just go with any of the major nutrient bottles like Dynagrow, Bonanical, Megacrop, General Hydroponics, etc. They all have a standard veg formula that will do the trick.
And don't forget that most organics will not register on a TDS/EC/PPM meter. So if you're using organics, you could have a super hot pot and still show a very low reading on your meter. So don't use it as a definitive guide if mixing and matching organics and salt based ferts.
Tikiknight1000
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Ok I understand what your saying but I'm on a budget here. So I'm working with what I've got. I know that my plants may not grow as big or robust but again I'm just learning. I welcome any ideas you have.
Tikiknight1000
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From the sounds of it pee may be a better alternative to the tea I plan on using tomorrow. What do you think? Urine or Dr. Earth Home grown tea? Thos are my only two options.
mancorn
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Both. The pee will give you a quick shot of nutrients. (1 bladder in 1 gallon and only in the soil.) The Dr Earth will give you a longer last supply of nutrients down the road. But do not over water!
The major nutrients are mobile in your plant. So don't remove any more yellow leaves. They contain some nutes, so if you're short of any, the growing tips will suck the nutrients out of the lower (yellowing) leaves. Sure it looks shitty now, but if you keep removing yellow leaves the plant will just move to the next leaf and start sucking the goodie out of it and it will start to yellow, and on and on. So leave the yellow leaves on the plant until they are almost dead.
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