Dirtbags Do-over... 🤪 Back to Organic!

Dirtbag said:

Most of us just paid our bill.

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That was my takeaway from many of the serious growers I've passed over the years.
Makes sense. They're a company and you're a hell of a good customer.

Dirtbag said:

We had a guy back in early 2000's that worked for BC hydro and for the right price would install a transformer in your freakin basement lol.
Most of us just paid our bill. BC hydro at least has never cared about grow ops, as long as they make money. And grow ops in BC likely accounted for a fair chunk of profit for them. The dude i worked for would pay hydro bills bimonthly in person at the bank with stacks of newly minted $20's. Sometimes $10-15K in one payment.

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i shouldnt be so callous. Getting busted with those rooms in jersey could get you 25 years in prison back then.

A friend got 2 years just for a roach in his work truck ashtray.

Dirtbag said:

We had a guy back in early 2000's that worked for BC hydro and for the right price would install a transformer in your freakin basement lol.
Most of us just paid our bill. BC hydro at least has never cared about grow ops, as long as they make money. And grow ops in BC likely accounted for a fair chunk of profit for them. The dude i worked for would pay hydro bills bimonthly in person at the bank with stacks of newly minted $20's. Sometimes $10-15K in one payment.

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Dirtbag that is kind of funny, in Cali a couple years ago some lady was doing the same thing. I want to say in San Bernardino, but I seem to remember the bills being like 100 to 150k, needless to say she got caught.

MIMedGrower said:

i shouldnt be so callous. Getting busted with those rooms in jersey could get you 25 years in prison back then.

A friend got 2 years just for a roach in his work truck ashtray.

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Holy shit man.. Thats crazy. Amazing how different it can be just across the border.
I knew a dial a dope dude back in the day who got caught with half a pound broken down into dimebags, eigths and quarters, a scale and about 5 grand in cash and the cops just took it all and let him go. That was honestly the most likely scenario if you got caught with weed in BC.

Dirtbag said:

Holy shit man.. Thats crazy. Amazing how different it can be just across the border.
I knew a dial a dope dude back in the day who got caught with half a pound broken down into dimebags, eigths and quarters, a scale and about 5 grand in cash and the cops just took it all and let him go. That was honestly the most likely scenario if you got caught with weed in BC.

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We have had cops take the drugs and let us go too. I once had 30k of coke stolen by cops that knew i would be transporting. I would say good cops make great criminals. The coke belonged to an individual named Gangliotti. I was in big big trouble.

We hunted down the cops as that was a safer plan than telling mrG’s son nick. What a life being a criminal in new jersey. ;-)

This one is straight from the horses mouth. I had this young guy living down the street and he was always home. One day I asked him if you grew and ad first he lied but later came clean. Anyways he and a buddy were doing runs from socal up to the emerald triangle. The had like 10 units with them and a cop car went by on the other side of the road, cops flipped a u turn and pulled them over. They were just going to take the weed but the other guy had a warranty. The other guy went to jail and the neighbor was on his way without the 10 units.

MIMedGrower said:

We have had cops take the drugs and let us go too. I once had 30k of coke stolen by cops that knew i would be transporting. I would say good cops make great criminals. The coke belonged to an individual named Gangliotti. I was in big big trouble.

We hunted down the cops as that was a safer plan than telling mrG’s son nick. What a life being a criminal in new jersey. ;-)

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Where in NJ? I grew up in northeast NJ.

Ive been creeping pics of these strains ive got in here. Its kinda driving me a bit nuts not knowing what anything is gonna look or taste like.

This one really caught my eye. This is apparently the C99 x Durban thai. If mine comes out looking like this im gonna be stoked! @Kanzeon did you manage to flower this one out at all?

MIMedGrower said:

i have seen growers with amazing grows use 24 hours veg under 1000 watt metal halide and they can get clones big in a couple weeks that way. Just have to keep up with the plants.

I dont think cannabis moves sugars and processes at night the way you said.

They grow (stretch) at night while using up some starch but the real growth and development is during the day.

I prefer 18/6 for some reasons but none are that the plant actually needs it.

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Intensify is everything. 1000w means nothing. It's the Intensify so distance needs to be taken into account.

Absolutely they cannot keep up under high light 24hrs, and plenty of info out there on it for cannabis and other plants. Some even showing what light saturation pointa are... not so definitive yet for cannabis but getting close.

Plenty of info out there over growth rates at night too.

I do like that hanging around here makes me question the way I do things... Not that I'm going to always listen... But thank you.

Another food for thought... as I was saying about microbes many places before.

Aqua Man said:

Another food for thought... as I was saying about microbes many places before.

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Makes a good argument for 18/6 when growing organically. Hydro i dont know if it makes much difference though since lets be honest, microbes be damned in rockwool... lol

BudGoodman said:

I do like that hanging around here makes me question the way I do things...

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This place got me so mixed up, I'll be sitting in the bathroom with the toilet paper like...


Nah... fuck it. I'll use the bidet.

Dirtbag said:

Makes a good argument for 18/6 when growing organically. Hydro i dont know if it makes much difference though since lets be honest, microbes be damned in rockwool... lol

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But as said the plant itself produces different metabolites etc speculation in my mind leads me to believe thus will affect possibly plant health in some way shape or form.

Of course there is so much to this shit I can't say... but I feel more comfortable 18/6. Based on the research I have done. And feel its absolutely beneficial in my mind

amekins said:

Where in NJ? I grew up in northeast NJ.

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exit 4

Aqua Man said:

Intensify is everything. 1000w means nothing. It's the Intensify so distance needs to be taken into account.

Absolutely they cannot keep up under high light 24hrs, and plenty of info out there on it for cannabis and other plants. Some even showing what light saturation pointa are... not so definitive yet for cannabis but getting close.

Plenty of info out there over growth rates at night too.

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they keep up fine. I watched them for years. And im talking 20-40 light rooms. I only mentioned the wattage because there are more intense lights now. Maybe a new gavita would be too much for 24hrs? I doubt it.

MIMedGrower said:

exit 4

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Camden. That’s not north really. 18W here.

beluga said:

This place got me so mixed up, I'll be sitting in the bathroom with the toilet paper like...


Nah... fuck it. I'll use the bidet.

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Pros and cons bud. ;-)

MIMedGrower said:

they keep up fine. I watched them for years. And im talking 20-40 light rooms. I only mentioned the wattage because there are more intense lights now. Maybe a new gavita would be too much for 24hrs? I doubt it.

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I do not know if they can handle the gavita 1700 for 24/7. They seem to get pretty tired by like hour 16 to 17. tops start to fall over. Seen it at like 70 percent too.

amekins said:

Camden. That’s not north really. 18W here.

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Im from south jersey. East of cherry hill at exit 4.

i have family in upper saddle river though and most are from Brooklyn/ Queens originally.