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also you need to understand that being an auto she'is about to be done with her stretch and won't grow much bigger or taller now.

and well micro managing feeding and watering for a plant that small isn't so much of learning curve as compared to take care of an healthy, vigorous and much bigger plant ... i wouldn't wait to already restart some seeds, could it be auto or photos ... keep that one growing alongside the others in a corner if that please you, but yeah really no point waiting for it to finish before restarting some seeds ...
I currently have Lavender seeds in my upper window ๐ŸชŸ, once those either germinate or don't, I'll move them out and start some seedlings ๐Ÿ˜‡๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ๐ŸŒฑ

I'll do 3 large plants next time.
 
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I think you're getting confused by the photos that I'm posting. ๐Ÿ˜“

Sometimes I take pictures when the soil is dry and sometimes I take pictures when the soil is moist.

I checked the weight of the pot, I used my meter, I stuck my finger 2 inches down into the soil surrounding the plant, the leaves were drooping and asking for water, it was time to water and I only gave her a cup.

Yeah I think what's happening is when I take photos from a certain angle, I'm purposely darkening the lens of the camera and using the pro mode for certain pictures.

That's why it looks different in some of my photos as well.

I get better leaf pictures when I take the brightness down because I have to sometimes with the LEDs being so bright.
and i don't think there is any issues with the setting when your taking photos ... color, brightness, contrast, saturation focus everything is fine enough

believe me i have snake eye to know when top soil layer is looking wet or dry enough from photos for watering again in the early stage with seedling in large pots ... and your soil always been too wet until the very last photos you shared were the top soil layer is nearly half starting to dry half wet. But that still too early for watering again the next day with a plant that small in large pot.
 
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Today I set the humidity to 58% on my Inkbird Controller.

I tried setting it to 55% but the dehumidifier was only getting the air down to 58-60%

That's as low as I can get it so far.

We started at 80% though when I planted my seeds and the dehumidifier definitely works.

I was hoping to bring it down to 50% for flower ๐ŸŒบ but I've been reading from others that I should be okay under 60%

If anyone has advice on humidity, that would be great ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผโ˜ฎ๏ธ
 
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Today I set the humidity to 58% on my Inkbird Controller.

I tried setting it to 55% but the dehumidifier was only getting the air down to 58-60%

That's as low as I can get it so far.

We started at 80% though when I planted my seeds and the dehumidifier definitely works.

I was hoping to bring it down to 50% for flower ๐ŸŒบ but I've been reading from others that I should be okay under 60%

If anyone has advice on humidity, that would be great ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผโ˜ฎ๏ธ
Also today I have my lights at 70% power now. I took some more readings with the PPFD meter app on the phone and it says 450, last time it read 500, so a little fluctuating there, maybe need to calibrate the app.
 
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Today I set the humidity to 58% on my Inkbird Controller.

I tried setting it to 55% but the dehumidifier was only getting the air down to 58-60%

That's as low as I can get it so far.

We started at 80% though when I planted my seeds and the dehumidifier definitely works.

I was hoping to bring it down to 50% for flower ๐ŸŒบ but I've been reading from others that I should be okay under 60%
Have you had rainy weather? That can make getting the humidity down a challenge. I agree with keeping it under 60%. Raising the temperature should reduce the humidity.

If anyone has advice on humidity, that would be great ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผโ˜ฎ๏ธ
I think you're doing well. I grew an auto once than only yielded a few grams. It was a learning experience. I encourage everyone to find the growing style they like.

It helps to understand vapor pressure deficit (VPD). I'll post a chart. It's a single measurement scale that incorporates both humidity and temperature and provides an indication of the plant's rate of transpiration -- how much moisture is being moved from the plant's leaves to the atmosphere. It's more useful than either humidity or temperature alone.

60% humidity is sort of a magic threshold. Above that number, mold becomes a threat. So, keeping flowering plants below that level can be important. (Younger plants benefit from higher humidity and bud rot isn't a concern.) Flowering in the 50% to 60% range is likely to result in slower growth than below 50%, but that's not necessarily bad. I usually flower between 50% and 55%. Other growers are likely to have other practices. It's keeping flowering plants below 60% that's most important.
 
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Here's a VPD chart. Use your temperature and humidity values to find your VPD and adjust your environment accordingly. It's important to notice how the color bands are for plants at the different stages of growth. Older plants in the purple band, for example, can tolerate higher VPD values -- meaning they can tolerate or benefit from lower humidity or higher temperature.

Vapor Pressure Deficit VPD
 
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Also today I have my lights at 70% power now. I took some more readings with the PPFD meter app on the phone and it says 450, last time it read 500, so a little fluctuating there, maybe need to calibrate the app.
I've noticed the app shows different values depending on whether I have the tent flap open or closed. So, I keep it as closed as I can when taking readings. The idea is to do it the same way every time, so other factors don't affect the amount of light.
 
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Also today I have my lights at 70% power now. I took some more readings with the PPFD meter app on the phone and it says 450, last time it read 500, so a little fluctuating there, maybe need to calibrate the app.
The app on the phone doesnโ€™t really work Iโ€™ve heard and Iโ€™ve used one and it didnโ€™t work eitherโ€ฆ so if ur worried about that prob should buy a meter to an actual result.. really just pay attention to what the leaves are telling u.. ur learning im learning we are all learning here..
 
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If she's using the Photone app, it might need a diffuser. I have the app + diffuser, but I don't rely on it more than I do with my own eyes when I look at the leaves.
Ya the leaves will tell it all plus thereโ€™s enough knowledge on this site that can help as long as the person is willing to listen lol
 
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Also today I have my lights at 70% power now. I took some more readings with the PPFD meter app on the phone and it says 450, last time it read 500, so a little fluctuating there, maybe need to calibrate the app.
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If she's using the Photone app, it might need a diffuser. I have the app + diffuser, but I don't rely on it more than I do with my own eyes when I look at the leaves.
Currently using this APP on my Android Phone

It allows me to set variables based on my light source and offers calibration.

It uses the front camera sensor.

You said I should be using a diffuser.

Do you mean a piece of white paper over the camera, to measure levels?

If that's what you mean, I totally forgot I should be doing that for a more accurate reading.

Or did you mean something else? โ˜ฎ๏ธ

Also THANK YOU ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’œ
For the HELPFUL INFORMATION!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
 
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Here's a VPD chart. Use your temperature and humidity values to find your VPD and adjust your environment accordingly. It's important to notice how the color bands are for plants at the different stages of growth. Older plants in the purple band, for example, can tolerate higher VPD values -- meaning they can tolerate or benefit from lower humidity or higher temperature.

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I love how 95ยฐ with 75% rh is right in the happy zone for late flower. If it were only that easy right? ๐Ÿ’š
 
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Currently using this APP on my Android Phone

It allows me to set variables based on my light source and offers calibration.

It uses the front camera sensor.

You said I should be using a diffuser.

Do you mean a piece of white paper over the camera, to measure levels?

If that's what you mean, I totally forgot I should be doing that for a more accurate reading.

Or did you mean something else? โ˜ฎ๏ธ

Also THANK YOU ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿ’œ
For the HELPFUL INFORMATION!๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
Iโ€™m not sure about that app but the one I used and tryed only said I was running at 200 18inches away and my light was at 70% and I have an se5000 Iโ€™m like ya thatโ€™s not right lol
 
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Here's a VPD chart. Use your temperature and humidity values to find your VPD and adjust your environment accordingly. It's important to notice how the color bands are for plants at the different stages of growth. Older plants in the purple band, for example, can tolerate higher VPD values -- meaning they can tolerate or benefit from lower humidity or higher temperature.

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Cool! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Based on this chart ๐Ÿ“ˆ I'm doing okay then for early flowering at 77ยฐ
 
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Cool! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Based on this chart ๐Ÿ“ˆ I'm doing okay then for early flowering at 77ยฐ
Are you using the leaf temperature for your VPD reading? Most of the time under LED lighting, there's about a 4f degree difference between room temperature and leaf temperature. You would need to use a touchless infrared thermometer to get your leaf reading ... and then plug that data into the chart. If you're already doing that, wonderful! If not, you will be closer by using the 4f degree offset and plugging that into the chart.
 
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Are you using the leaf temperature for your VPD reading? Most of the time under LED lighting, there's about a 4f degree difference between room temperature and leaf temperature. You would need to use a touchless infrared thermometer to get your leaf reading ... and then plug that data into the chart. If you're already doing that, wonderful! If not, you will be closer by using the 4f degree offset and plugging that into the chart.
Hmmm, I never even thought about a leaf ๐ŸŒฟ reading, never done that before.
 
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I have the app + diffuser
Did you buy their diffuser? If so, how much of a difference did it make from just using paper? I had made one from a piece of PVC with the paper taped on one end. But with no reference have no idea how accurate it is and wasnโ€™t keen to spend $26 on theirs if it wasn't a notable difference (as I hardly ever use it).

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Did you buy their diffuser? If so, how much of a difference did it make from just using paper? I had made one from a piece of PVC with the paper taped on one end. But with no reference have no idea how accurate it is and wasnโ€™t keen to spend $26 on theirs if it wasn't a notable difference (as I hardly ever use it).

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You place the entire phone ๐Ÿ“ฑ in this?
 
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