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[LoveGrowingIt]

I personally think for most home grows, a ballpark reading from something like Photone or PPFD is close enough. It's my feelings that over-lighting is about as common of a mistake as over-watering/watering too frequently.

I agree.

I set the leaf temperature offset in my controller years ago and haven't changed it since. Every time I tested it, it was -2º F. So, that's what I've been using. I doubt I've ever been precise enough in everything else I do for it to matter. It's just a hobby. As long as the weeds good, we're all happy here.

 

[Grownsince95]

I think that was meant to be funny. If not, I apologize for the haha.


The Photone web site used to have instructions for making a diffuser. I got lazy and bought one.

It's one of those "yeah it's funny but look at what an ass I was" posts.

 

[LoveGrowingIt]

It's one of those "yeah it's funny but look at what an ass I was" posts.

I know what that's like.

 

[mancorn]

I never used a DIY diffuser, so I don't know.

Sounds like a fun experiment!

 

[Grownsince95]

I know what that's like.

Man... I just did a cruise through some of my old posts looking for a pic I don't have anymore and was just straight up embarrassed at plants I used to be so proud of.

Like total cringe worthy shit. Fucking burnt taco ass leaves everywhere!

 

[SunshineSupergirl]

Man... I just did a cruise through some of my old posts looking for a pic I don't have anymore and was just straight up embarrassed at plants I used to be so proud of.

Like total cringe worthy shit. Fucking burnt taco ass leaves everywhere!

I have had a few of those leaves.
This is only my 2nd time growing cannabis.

 

[SunshineSupergirl]

That's not the app I'm using.


I don't know if that app needs one. I use an app called 'Photone' that does need one.

Found it!

Will give it a try, compare to what I'm using.

 

[SunshineSupergirl]

Woo hoo! 58%

 

[SunshineSupergirl]

Woo hoo! 58% View attachment 2437501

I increased the size of the vent holes at the top of the SuperGrow Window so that there would be more heat and humidity balance.

There's vent holes near the fan and the other side closer to the heater.

Cutting a bit more of the zip wall definitely helps!

Unconventional, but HEY, IT WORKS

 

[HerbalEdu]

vpd is about marginal gain for commercial grow op, has very little interest for homegrower with small set up ...

plant grow outdoor just fine with the vpd being most of the time out of range with the weather and the seasons.

from my experience you 'll get some mold with some strain and some pheno as soon as 50% rh and some strain and some pheno won't bother 90%rh.

also you'r usually more at risk of mold with the biggest cola and buds that are at risk to condensate some humidity in the inner, smaller buds very rarely get some mold as compared to much bigger buds

 

[amneziaHaze]

vpd is about marginal gain for commercial grow op, has very little interest for homegrower with small set up ...

plant grow outdoor just fine with the vpd being most of the time out of range with the weather and the seasons.

from my experience you 'll get some mold with some strain and some pheno as soon as 50% rh and some strain and some pheno won't bother 90%rh.

also you'r usually more at risk of mold with the biggest cola and buds that are at risk to condensate some humidity in the inner, smaller buds very rarely get some mold as compared to much bigger buds

If you fan your leafs from time to time you should be safe mold usually happens when you have overlaping leafs that stay wet between all the time and dead leafs stuck somewhere deep inside.

But i dont agree on the vpd theory if you have more transpiration you have more liquids pushed up the plant soo you have more nutes in the plant maybe ita not a huge difference but over time it shows

 

[HerbalEdu]

But i dont agree on the vpd theory if you have more transpiration you have more liquids pushed up the plant soo you have more nutes in the plant maybe ita not a huge difference but over time it shows

to be honest. i just don't see the point advising her to worry about vpd with even more micro managing and over loving than what she's actually doing while she fail horribly elsewhere so much more important: proper watering pratices.

 

[amneziaHaze]

to be honest. i just don't see the point advising her to worry about vpd with even more micro managing and over loving than what she's actually doing while she fail horribly elsewhere so much more important: proper watering pratices

True. I didnt look in what topic i was i just spam answers somethimes.
Vpd is for later in life when you are growing with no problems.

 

[Grownsince95]

Understanding VPD might be more important than measuring it. If new growers can internalize the importance of how temp and humidity act together to influence plant growth, they will be better off in the end.

Anyone can memorize numbers. Understanding how and why those numbers work unlocks the knowledge to make better decisions.

 

[HerbalEdu]

it's also important to understand that plant grow just fine outdoor, healthy and vigorous, with vpd being totally out of control and swinging all the time. And often being out of range day by day depending the weather, also the growing seasons or location on earth.

 

[Grownsince95]

it's also important to understand that plant grow just fine outdoor, healthy and vigorous, with vpd being totally out of control and swinging all the time. And often being out of range day by day depending the weather, also the growing seasons or location on earth.

But even in outdoor grows understanding how it all works will help to make better decisions. If you know it's going to be hot and really dry rh all week you may want to water your plants more. Cool and humid with fog? Maybe you can wait an extra day or two.

I'm from the school of thought that understanding why you're doing something is more important than just knowing you should do it.

But you are 110% correct that the OP needs to get some other basics under her belt before jumping on the VPD bandwagon.

 

[HerbalEdu]

But even in outdoor grows understanding how it all works will help to make better decisions. If you know it's going to be hot and really dry rh all week you may want to water your plants more. Cool and humid with fog? Maybe you can wait an extra day or two.

I'm from the school of thought that understanding why you're doing something is more important than just knowing you should do it.

But you are 110% correct that the OP needs to get some other basics under her belt before jumping on the VPD bandwagon.

my point mostly come from my own experience. i m indoor but can't control rh.

for seedling, plant in veg and flowering stretch i have never seen a difference in growth with plants experiencing rather the same temperature and having 20% 50% or 80% rh during thoose stage.

i wish i could show you some photos of plant having different rh during thoose stages but while i keep a look at it across the grow cycles i don't write it on my diary and really my plants grow all the same whatever the rh during those stages. Difference i see in growth come much more from different strains or phenotypes than the rh itself.

then past flowering stretch the tent is so crowded , that there is a lot of transpiration that usually rh is rarely below 50% especially at night and same i see much more difference in how the buds swell and look coming from just strains and phenotypes than the variation in rh (my rh could vary from 40% to 90% during flower).

 

[Smokie08]

my point mostly come from my own experience. i m indoor but can't control rh.

for seedling, plant in veg and flowering stretch i have never seen a difference in growth with plants experiencing rather the same temperature and having 20% 50% or 80% rh during thoose stage.

i wish i could show you some photos of plant having different rh during thoose stages but while i keep a look at it across the grow cycles i don't write it on my diary and really my plants grow all the same whatever the rh during those stages. Difference i see in growth come much more from different strains or phenotypes than the rh itself.

then past flowering stretch the tent is so crowded , that there is a lot of transpiration that usually rh is rarely below 50% especially at night and same i see much more difference in how the buds swell and look coming from just strains and phenotypes than the variation in rh (my rh could vary from 40% to 90% during flower).

Can we just all agree that this is a weed and weeds grow everywhere in all types of climates.. lol just trying to make a funny but really we are growing a plant this plant is going to grow still with minimal effort… now me I’m a new grower but not new to gardening no that we all want to boost our plants to get the maximum amount possible out of each plant… so learning all these tricks and what works best for you and your liking… some like organic some like synthetic some spend 1000s some don’t spend at all get my drift.. so try out different things and build on what you like best..

 

[HerbalEdu]

Can we just all agree

her plants is 6 weeks old since soaking the seed, that she control rh and temp and that that plant is nowhere looking like it should.

does controlling precisely rh and temp helped her experience an healthy and vigorous growth, not really. may be because rh (and temp) are far from being her main issues at this point ...

 

[amneziaHaze]

her plants is 6 weeks old since soaking the seed, that she control rh and temp and that that plant is nowhere looking like it should.

does controlling precisely rh and temp helped her experience an healthy and vigorous growth, not really. may be because rh (and temp) are not her main issues at this point ...

Yea but just because you overwater doesnt have to mean you have to stop doing other good stuff.
There is no reason for her to stop doing that ,doesnt take much time out of your life. But she should focus more on watering habbits, or go hydro and never worry about overwattering