2nd round with C.S. nutrients.

[tipper619sd]

Im back finally ! Been working my but off lately. I have the whole CS line and have been really liking the results so far. I have pics to show some progress but couldnt get them to load so here it goes. I have been following the. Feed chart as follows and actually have been seeing big results. They have been growing a couple inches every few day. Heres some pics of them frst day and a few of last week will take new ones tonight since im on my phone right now. Ok so letme grab my senses kinda lifted. First pick is of day one in the system and the second pic is from day 13 and the last two pics were taken 19 days in the system. As of today its been day 24 without a clean out. I will be cleaning out the system today and will take pics. I have been using a 5 gal bucket to pre mix my nutes and ph. Thanks to dan at CC i was given a sample pack to try out. They are great people and customer service is excellent. Hope to keep u guys attention. Peace and happy farming.

 

[tipper619sd]

Oh my high behind forgot to tell u lovely people the strains there is 3 deadheaf ogs supposedly and one fire og .

 

[UCMENOW]

Real Cool Tipper.

What are the mils per gal you're running on your Cal Mag? Seems like you might have a cal excess IMO or a really low humidity when you transplanted.

Could you give us a run down on what you're using of each input in mils per gal?

 

[RollinEndough]

Take photos with the lamp off so we can get an idea of how green they are. That leaf curling has to stop.

The upper growth looks healthier for sure, hopefully they'll stay that way and rock out until harvest time bro!

 

[tipper619sd]

Hey sorry guys for the bad pics and the not in depth post. Here we go i am using cs veg a&b im using currently 4mls per gal and 2 mls a gal of uc roots along with about 10 mls of h2o2 in the whole system. My ppms on the .5 scale is 450 but my water comes in at 250 with the r/o i might need a new filter. Also in thee beginning weeks my humidity was low and continues to stay low dont have enough money for a humidifer right now so gotta make due. The leaf curl has not shown up any more and my chiller is running at 65 currently. I live in a desert area so im sure that had to do with humidity being low i have 2 cool mist humidifiers but dont do any justice next to my portable 12000 btu ac. My lights are 20 inches from the tops and doing fine. Hopefully i covered all the questions and suggestions. Rollin ill try and take a few night pics but all i have is cam phone so we will see. Heres a few pics of today i topped my fire og but tis still out growing all of the deadheads might tie her town if she gets outta control. Also do u think i should get a few cages around the buckets just in case. Was thinking about scrog but dont have the money to build now and never done it before. But anyways heres the pics guys did 1st rez change yesterday really gotta stay on top of that weekly or bi weekly.

 

[tipper619sd]

Oh also i started this run on june 26th at 2mls a gal a&b and 1 ml a gal uc roots. Started at 4 inches tall and have become what u see now. I havent changed the water at all until yesterday and i was doing hand top offs at 2 mls a gal of a&b and 1ml gal of uc roots. Had lil brown slime im guessing because i didnt clean system.still learning . Hope u guys enjoy.

 

[RollinEndough]

Nice, nice, nice!

I would go in there and cut them almost in half then watch them transform from bean stalks into fat bushes ready to yield ya more. You want all those gaps between the plants filled in pretty much before flipping the switch.

Brown slime is from light getting into the drink. That's why everyone covers the buckets up. The pinholes at the top of the lid are the most prone with light creeping past the media and giving the algae fule for their fire.

 

[tipper619sd]

the gaps u mean between plants or gaps on the plant. Also are u saying top them so they can grow bigger stems, im kinda lost and still very green to the under current and growing in general. Also so thats why i see everyone covering up there bucktes. Also were u referring to the post about me saying i would scrog possibly. Anywho thanks for the comments and i cant wait to get more info, especially from all you farmers. Thanks again Rollin peace and happy farming.

 

[RollinEndough]

If they're 12" tall and have 10 nodes I would cut off 6" from the top and let the remaining 4-5 nodes become your tops instead of just a single cola plant. They'll definitely get thicker in a hurry because of this.

If it were me I would ScrOG. Look at Shady's thread and how he handles his canopy with 2 nets. There's nothing difficult about ScrOG, you're just pointing branches in a direction to fill in the gaps. Once the gaps are filled, flip to 12/12 and let just colas stretch up towards the light while trimming out the weak undergrowth.

With the health you've got this time around and a little pruning you can see 2-3x the previous yield. (Maybe 4x because last time didn't really count.)

 

[tipper619sd]

thanks Rollin. Unfortunately i am not able to get a scrog going right now because of funds and bills but possibly i can make something happen here soon. I went and checked on the girls and was happy to see that almost a gal of water had been drank by the plants. With the 3 inch gap between the pots i have seen way more growth and the plants are becoming bushes. Ya i kinda want to let them grow and see how big i can get them before flip. I was thinking of veging for about 6 weeks and then flipping but you brought up a good point and i really want to get bigger yields. My last bam og yielded me 4 ounces off one plant but i let it run a lot longer and it was pretty good stuff. I just want to be able to pull those numbers per plant and i will be very happy. Couldnt i just let them finish growing and still pull the numbers i want?

 

[RollinEndough]

Half the effort, half the weight.

I already told you how I would do it, now it's up to you and your comfort level to decide the outcome.

 

[tipper619sd]

lol for sure i went in the room today and i was checking out what u meant by topping it at t he 6th node and letting more of the branches become tops. I took some pics to show u guys the before and after effect. I am going all in and topping it and seeing how i can possibly build a scrog. I have some left over pvc but i do not have a screen. What should i use for that and how much would it cost? I am already doing better than my last round and this time i could possibly actually harvest without having any issues since its my second run ( knock on wood). Thanks again rollin i guess sometimes u just have to get it straight forward with no bs to really understand and u have a nice dog right there kinda looks like my cane corso but she is blue. Thanks to all the farmers helping me along and who have helped me in the past. Hopefully this run will get me to a higher level of growing and learning. Peace and happy farming.

 

[RollinEndough]

Word. I think you'll knock it out of the park just by keeping the food at a low EC. The topping alone would be enough to improve yield if you're not comfortable to try ScrOG this second time around. Otherwise a screen can be had for like $5-10, just use the white fabric trellis that comes in 4'x8' pieces and you have enough for 2 layers.

The Cane Corso and Presa Canario are very similar dogs. Pretty much the Italian and Spanish equivalent of each other. Gotta love a solid friend.

 

[tipper619sd]

ok so white fabric trellis gotcha and ya mine is Italian she has her ears done like that and her tail cut she is very big but a very good guard dog for sure. Ok so just by topping i could get better results? I really wanna do a ScrOG and see what i can pull plus there is plenty of space under the light that is not being used and i would like to utilize that also. So what head to home depot and grab some trellis?

 

[Shady]

Head to the hydro shop for the net... Looking good so far Tipper!

 

[tipper619sd]

Well i didnt get around to getting the net but i did top the plants all of them including my fire og which i had already fimmed but decided to top because of space and height. I used my 5 gal. bucket and filled it with water and 15 ml of cal mag and set the ph at 5.8 and added back 3 gals or so. Currently my ph is at 6.0 and the girls are growing and feeding at a very rapid rate like everyday they drink a few gals. I will update tomorrow with the pics for you guys. Thanks shady for the info always love checking out your threads. Keep up the epic work you and rollin . Peace and happy farming.

 

[tipper619sd]

Here are the pics of al my girls topped i am trying to dig up some money so i can buy the trellis but its lookinglike it might not happen but hopefully with them topped everything will be way better then the first run.

 

[RollinEndough]

Aww yeah, now watch how they say to themselves, "Where the fuck that top cola go? We gotta fix this shit! All available branches report for duty!", and get all types of thick.

You'll probably want to top the individual branches that become your tops in a week or so, then you'll go from 4-5 tops to at least 10 and let them get thick. Anything that doesn't get thick on the bottom should be considered a weak branch that wont yield and eliminated.

 

[tipper619sd]

well im hoping the all report for duty lol. I will check on them today but also should i just keep them steady on the feed until they show signs of growing again or should i stay on my top off regimen? Also top the tops to create more tops sounds good to me. I wanted to know though if i dont have a SCrOG will they be able to hold the fruit load ? Will be back with pics in a few days possibly tomorrow .

 

[RollinEndough]

A few strategically placed hooks in the ceiling to tie twine to your heaviest tops is about the cheapest way to do it.

Shady's 2-tier ScrOG really is the best and least labor-some though, try to incorporate something like it next run.

DesertSquirrel has plants that have been topped several times in his last post in the CS Porn thread, try to get your gals fat and wide like that and you're sure to squeeze out the best yield.