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Update.
Helmets off nothing from solocup.
Helmets off nothing from solocup.
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Update
Variance down to .2 up .2 down and .9% up and down.
Without sensor guard. I figured out in the open and adjusting till good with a cover should be straight lines. Installing cover at lights out
Watered emerged seedlings at 50ml perimeter of solo cup. Older plants heavy and growing like weeds
Upped large panel to 38% lux 17k larger plants. Sprouts at 7.k.
Variance down to .2 up .2 down and .9% up and down.
Without sensor guard. I figured out in the open and adjusting till good with a cover should be straight lines. Installing cover at lights out
Watered emerged seedlings at 50ml perimeter of solo cup. Older plants heavy and growing like weeds
Upped large panel to 38% lux 17k larger plants. Sprouts at 7.k.
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Update.
2 seedlings doing well nice even presentation and both have first new leaf starts. Watered with 100ml at solo cup perimeter and sprayed down dirt all around pot top.
2 older plants are far apart enough that the bigger one was just a bit droopy this morning but both pots light and ready. Watered 750ml each pot and as last water was through the top dress which was damp I expect to see a need for water sooner but will check. 9am check no droopy and sprouts are up another 1/2 inch. Prolly have to backfill the stems soon a bit. Also one of the things I love about the top dress is the high EWC content and other stuff make it slow taking water. I have been reading more and more about organics needing a slow hand or the develop channels in the soil that has your water and nutes running out the bottom and other parts remaining dry. Seems like a reasonable supposition but when I explored my roots last grow I saw obvious dead matter in the smaller plant from blocking the drainage flow but the other plant had a thriving biome disk about 2 inches from the bottom and about 4 inches thick that was like mushroom matter full of roots. Never saw any sink holes from fast watering and as a noob I had been more interested in getting the tent closed that slowing down watering.
Moved up to 76 and vdp still at .8 due to new sprouts.
Also running some temp figures. I had planned on ramping up the temp to 85 like my last grow but White Widow is a much thinner longer leaf presentation much more sativa fingers. These apple fritters have paddle leafs that look like they can block a quarter of the plants lower with coverage. They are so much faster growing at 75 than the widow was. I know that more heat can fuel the furnace but running 18-6 the whole grow and with the larger capacity I am going to rethink and run down some more information on correct temp for Indica autos to ensure I am working the correct plan.
2 seedlings doing well nice even presentation and both have first new leaf starts. Watered with 100ml at solo cup perimeter and sprayed down dirt all around pot top.
2 older plants are far apart enough that the bigger one was just a bit droopy this morning but both pots light and ready. Watered 750ml each pot and as last water was through the top dress which was damp I expect to see a need for water sooner but will check. 9am check no droopy and sprouts are up another 1/2 inch. Prolly have to backfill the stems soon a bit. Also one of the things I love about the top dress is the high EWC content and other stuff make it slow taking water. I have been reading more and more about organics needing a slow hand or the develop channels in the soil that has your water and nutes running out the bottom and other parts remaining dry. Seems like a reasonable supposition but when I explored my roots last grow I saw obvious dead matter in the smaller plant from blocking the drainage flow but the other plant had a thriving biome disk about 2 inches from the bottom and about 4 inches thick that was like mushroom matter full of roots. Never saw any sink holes from fast watering and as a noob I had been more interested in getting the tent closed that slowing down watering.
Moved up to 76 and vdp still at .8 due to new sprouts.
Also running some temp figures. I had planned on ramping up the temp to 85 like my last grow but White Widow is a much thinner longer leaf presentation much more sativa fingers. These apple fritters have paddle leafs that look like they can block a quarter of the plants lower with coverage. They are so much faster growing at 75 than the widow was. I know that more heat can fuel the furnace but running 18-6 the whole grow and with the larger capacity I am going to rethink and run down some more information on correct temp for Indica autos to ensure I am working the correct plan.
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Update.
Due to sensor placement it is quite easy to see the growth on the older plants. They have reached up on their own to a light level of 19,500 lux without changing energy from 39%
Seedlings doing well with a slight curve to the stems from light placement. Backfilled stems with seed starter and dampened new soil. Rotated plants to reduce curve.
Will run 76 degrees today and maintain .8 vdp for seedlings. After much research and nashing of teeth I have decided to run the plant at 76 degrees. Will still run some hot lights if they will let me but plan amended.
Will keep tent closed. Humidifier full and just grow babies grow.
Due to sensor placement it is quite easy to see the growth on the older plants. They have reached up on their own to a light level of 19,500 lux without changing energy from 39%
Seedlings doing well with a slight curve to the stems from light placement. Backfilled stems with seed starter and dampened new soil. Rotated plants to reduce curve.
Will run 76 degrees today and maintain .8 vdp for seedlings. After much research and nashing of teeth I have decided to run the plant at 76 degrees. Will still run some hot lights if they will let me but plan amended.
Will keep tent closed. Humidifier full and just grow babies grow.
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Lst on older plants. Water 100 ml in sprouts.
Adjusted light on larger plants to 44% 20k lux at tops which are now fan leafs. Sprouts remain at 9k until 2nd set of leafs.
Temp 76 vpd .8 very glad low vdp does not seem to be slowing older plants.
Lst on older plants. Water 100 ml in sprouts.
Adjusted light on larger plants to 44% 20k lux at tops which are now fan leafs. Sprouts remain at 9k until 2nd set of leafs.
Temp 76 vpd .8 very glad low vdp does not seem to be slowing older plants.
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By 2pm the plant top was upright again just 4 inches north. Seedlings starting 2nd real set.
Whole house at 79 this is bs. AC on 74 now and tent cruising along with best numbers in a while. I also wanted to start reducing humidity with seedlings moving fin so I threw in 1 degrees of leaf temp down. This dropped humidity about 1.5% I and most people do not have the ability to properly measure leaf temp in a tent I just use it to steer.
Whole house at 79 this is bs. AC on 74 now and tent cruising along with best numbers in a while. I also wanted to start reducing humidity with seedlings moving fin so I threw in 1 degrees of leaf temp down. This dropped humidity about 1.5% I and most people do not have the ability to properly measure leaf temp in a tent I just use it to steer.
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Update
Watered 750 ml both larger plants. Continued with training. 76 degrees .8 vdp
Nice growth moving along.
400 watt unit 47% 20500 lux at bent tops.
Seedlings progressing lights at 9k has stopped stretching with 2nd real set going. Dampened top of soil.
Watered 750 ml both larger plants. Continued with training. 76 degrees .8 vdp
Nice growth moving along.
400 watt unit 47% 20500 lux at bent tops.
Seedlings progressing lights at 9k has stopped stretching with 2nd real set going. Dampened top of soil.
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Update. Older plants for some lst. Sprouts showing some tip burn by 10 am so light check a bit higher than plan but the single panel at a 45 degree is still a bit high. Turned off both 150 watt units and adjusted 400 watt unit side panel at an angle to give me 8000 lux. Problem being the sprouts are going to follow the light so until they get big enough for my other panels I am rotating plants every 4 hours.
Originally when I had only seedlings and sprouts I only used the big panel. Now with big panel putting out the juice for the 3 week plants the splash from it and the panel are too high energy for new sprouts.
Sigh. Literally as I am typing I am thinking about changing the lights to the 150 watt aray for the older plants and using the splash from those 2 lights to run the new sprouts.
Anyways 100ml at solocup perimeter and 500 at edge of pot for sprouts. Going to move plants and rebalance lights and edit this post
Originally when I had only seedlings and sprouts I only used the big panel. Now with big panel putting out the juice for the 3 week plants the splash from it and the panel are too high energy for new sprouts.
Sigh. Literally as I am typing I am thinking about changing the lights to the 150 watt aray for the older plants and using the splash from those 2 lights to run the new sprouts.
Anyways 100ml at solocup perimeter and 500 at edge of pot for sprouts. Going to move plants and rebalance lights and edit this post
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Or not.
Moved plants to 300 watt array. Large plants 20k small sprouts 7500.
Used tethers to balance tops on the plants as one is 3 inches taller and another node.
Moved fans around. Moved sensors around. Cubes all over tent for comparisons.
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Ok. That took a while.
Changed positions of sensors based on cube movements around tent. Now have all ACi sensors on middle of tent. Have 400watt Vivosun under 400 watt panel and 300 watt sensors under 300 watt panel. Even with the new sensor the vovosuns do not track well as they increase in heat. If I adjust to balance at 69 it is off 1.2 at 76 degrees.
Biggest problem was the panel used as a floor. The crappy baggy tent I bought has gaps in the wood floor to tent area so I installed some foam rubber on the panel and running up the tent wall. Not even visible with drop tray on the wood floor. I left the area around the front door panel left side open to the underside of the panel where the incoming air arrives. As the duct exit is on the rear right top side this gives me effective gross flow in the tent. The only waves I get are when the cloudforge is pumping and the fan intersects blower fog at the sensor. Even with a cover that's just going to happen and it is a very small jump.
Night.
Sweet wave.
Day
I can live with this.
Only service this am is rotation. Plants looking good.
Changed positions of sensors based on cube movements around tent. Now have all ACi sensors on middle of tent. Have 400watt Vivosun under 400 watt panel and 300 watt sensors under 300 watt panel. Even with the new sensor the vovosuns do not track well as they increase in heat. If I adjust to balance at 69 it is off 1.2 at 76 degrees.
Biggest problem was the panel used as a floor. The crappy baggy tent I bought has gaps in the wood floor to tent area so I installed some foam rubber on the panel and running up the tent wall. Not even visible with drop tray on the wood floor. I left the area around the front door panel left side open to the underside of the panel where the incoming air arrives. As the duct exit is on the rear right top side this gives me effective gross flow in the tent. The only waves I get are when the cloudforge is pumping and the fan intersects blower fog at the sensor. Even with a cover that's just going to happen and it is a very small jump.
Night.
Sweet wave.
Day
I can live with this.
Only service this am is rotation. Plants looking good.
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Update.
We have preflower pistles on one plant. Hope these things stretch a lot or I will be buying dispensary pot.
Watered all plants. Older at 1.1 liters and small ones at 200 ml at solo cup perimeter and sprayed down tops.
With growth lights still at 57% with tops of larger at 26k lux and seedlings at 8500. Vdp set at 1.1 and temp at 77 degrees. This will be the highest point of the grow as substantial research leads me to believe 85 like my last grow would be counter productive.
We have preflower pistles on one plant. Hope these things stretch a lot or I will be buying dispensary pot.
Watered all plants. Older at 1.1 liters and small ones at 200 ml at solo cup perimeter and sprayed down tops.
With growth lights still at 57% with tops of larger at 26k lux and seedlings at 8500. Vdp set at 1.1 and temp at 77 degrees. This will be the highest point of the grow as substantial research leads me to believe 85 like my last grow would be counter productive.
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Update.
Pulled down a few and used some fixtures on a few. Much better light balance. 63% on 300 watt array brings 4 peaks. at 27k and about 1/2 at 20k until they turn back up. Lowest Node growth at 14K seedlings at 11k.
Also set up my main 2 stems with my patent pending stair step using fixtures. I came across this reading journals. Basically you use fixtures to make a 2 step bend in your stem. now when you tie down the main stem to pull the pivot point of the bend is no longer dependant on how high or low you pull it will flex at the step.
77 degrees 1.1 vdp around 62%
Transition of lung room needs work. With temp drop outdoors the inside is lower than the a/c setting for the house so has not ran in a day and will not run today. Have decided today before lights out to put 50 pint capacity unit in lung room and move smaller out in basement. Wish I cound script the dehumidifiers for night and day but its move settings and get a .06 vdp trace or set it in the middle and wander .2 vdp
By 10 am when Vdp is steady the seedlings pray and the fans on the bigger ones stick out level. I am convinced that this presentation is what growers are looking for.
No water today IPM no change did see a random gnant outside tent so am doing major clean up today.
Pulled down a few and used some fixtures on a few. Much better light balance. 63% on 300 watt array brings 4 peaks. at 27k and about 1/2 at 20k until they turn back up. Lowest Node growth at 14K seedlings at 11k.
Also set up my main 2 stems with my patent pending stair step using fixtures. I came across this reading journals. Basically you use fixtures to make a 2 step bend in your stem. now when you tie down the main stem to pull the pivot point of the bend is no longer dependant on how high or low you pull it will flex at the step.
77 degrees 1.1 vdp around 62%
Transition of lung room needs work. With temp drop outdoors the inside is lower than the a/c setting for the house so has not ran in a day and will not run today. Have decided today before lights out to put 50 pint capacity unit in lung room and move smaller out in basement. Wish I cound script the dehumidifiers for night and day but its move settings and get a .06 vdp trace or set it in the middle and wander .2 vdp
By 10 am when Vdp is steady the seedlings pray and the fans on the bigger ones stick out level. I am convinced that this presentation is what growers are looking for.
No water today IPM no change did see a random gnant outside tent so am doing major clean up today.
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Update
Rear plant little droopy with a light pot. Watered 1.3 liters
Front plant looks good put still ok.
Sprouts taking off.
Lights 300 watt array 71%30k lux at tops. A lot of fans at 25K and 15K at lowest new growth
Sprouts to 10k lux. Maintaining 1.1 during day and 1.0 at night
Tent transition at night with new strategy worked well. Started cooling lung room and removed heat so only lights on for 30 minutes.
Rear plant little droopy with a light pot. Watered 1.3 liters
Front plant looks good put still ok.
Sprouts taking off.
Lights 300 watt array 71%30k lux at tops. A lot of fans at 25K and 15K at lowest new growth
Sprouts to 10k lux. Maintaining 1.1 during day and 1.0 at night
Tent transition at night with new strategy worked well. Started cooling lung room and removed heat so only lights on for 30 minutes.
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Slowly moving lights up. Both 150 watt units daisy chained at 78%. The highest light level is 33k lux and it is the secondary growth not the tallest and biggest. Those are right behind at 30k but being tied down they will not raise as fast as the lower tops. Pot level 17k. Seedlings moved away from light with increase but they are both at 11k lux. Will water front large pot around noon.
Slowly moving lights up. Both 150 watt units daisy chained at 78%. The highest light level is 33k lux and it is the secondary growth not the tallest and biggest. Those are right behind at 30k but being tied down they will not raise as fast as the lower tops. Pot level 17k. Seedlings moved away from light with increase but they are both at 11k lux. Will water front large pot around noon.
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Fed front plant 1.3 liters water. Trained a few loose ends.
Have decided next water to start adding the foop nutes at 1/2 scheduled rate. My photos I started at 12/12 flip so the nutes started in before pistles but this grow the topdress kinda little high in N. I did get a lot of fade from both plants last run so going into flower with some green is good.
Numbers vdp down to .05 wave.
Have decided next water to start adding the foop nutes at 1/2 scheduled rate. My photos I started at 12/12 flip so the nutes started in before pistles but this grow the topdress kinda little high in N. I did get a lot of fade from both plants last run so going into flower with some green is good.
Numbers vdp down to .05 wave.
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I am growing apple fritters as well on week 7 !!! Can’t wait to see how it ends up!
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Noon peek a lot of tops are all at 35k. back larger pot getting light but not yet. Light leaf tuck and spun rear pot as one top went against tent wall.
Sprouts moved to 12500k lux. Leaves now span past a solo cup so watering will increase and be farther away.
last night just before lights out plants have a smell. Like general greenhouse smell not cannabis smell.
Sprouts moved to 12500k lux. Leaves now span past a solo cup so watering will increase and be farther away.
last night just before lights out plants have a smell. Like general greenhouse smell not cannabis smell.
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Yeah I’m learning autos are very fickle and no real time for mistakes. But none the less still fun.
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