4'x4' Flood Table

[EatPizza]

Hey all!

How many flowering plants can i fit under one 1000w light in a 4x4 flood table?

I'm germinating some indica seeds.

I'd like to use 6x6 rockwool cubes for one table and hydroton or coco in 3 gallon smart pots for my second table.

I'm doing ebb and flow.

Thanks yall!

 

[noone88]

A true 4x4 (botanicare ID 4x4) can fit 63 (minus 1 for the drain fittings). However that's a "sog" style of grow and you want to keep your plants small or they will stretch vertically by an insane amount.

Most of us are doing between 9-16 plants per 4x4. 4-6 if you veg them big. 20-24 if you're looking to increase yield.

 

[AnimalMutha]

The rule/suggestion I've always heard is 1 plant per square foot. 4x4=16sqft 16 plants. If that helps.

 

[DazedNconfused78]

The rule/suggestion I've always heard is 1 plant per square foot. 4x4=16sqft 16 plants. If that helps.

See this is what i thought too. I just had a guy that owns a grow shop tell me that my 6 plants was too many for my 4x4 table in my 5x5 tent.

 

[Ponky]

I never do more than 4. 4 bigger plants I find preferable. For trimming. And ease of maintenance. Root to canopy ratio.

 

[DazedNconfused78]

I never do more than 4. 4 bigger plants I find preferable. For trimming. And ease of maintenance. Root to canopy ratio.

Im licensed to grow 6. I hate to not be able to grow what i can legally. I only have so much room in my tent. If i get them to big in veg they would be in my light.

 

[Ponky]

Im licensed to grow 6. I hate to not be able to grow what i can legally. I only have so much room in my tent. If i get them to big in veg they would be in my light.

Do you top the plants? Or just let them grow? Low wide plants I find to work best in a tent.

 

[DazedNconfused78]

Do you top the plants? Or just let them grow? Low wide plants I find to work best in a tent.

My first grow. I think i topped them right. Im gonna do way better next time though and be on tip of it. So hard to figure a way to lst the plants with an open table under it. Nothing to tie to. Any thoughts? 36 inches from lights right now

 

[Ponky]

My first grow. I think i topped them right. Im gonna do way better next time though and be on tip of it. So hard to figure a way to lst the plants with an open table under it. Nothing to tie to. Any thoughts? 36 inches from lights right now

Well for anchoring I would get some pipe cleaners or garden wire. And make some anchor points. Help you lay those arms flat. And keep those tops trimmed off. Get it nice and wide. Go 12/12 about a week after you are done topping. Then the day you go 12/12 defolaite the lower portions. And at around day 18 to 21 of (12/12) I would give one final round of defoliation. Taking off most of the leaves.
Do you pre treat for pests and fungus? For example I give mine 3 in 1 once a week until week 3. I find they like it. And it keeps problems away.

 

[DazedNconfused78]

Well for anchoring I would get some pipe cleaners or garden wire. And make some anchor points. Help you lay those arms flat. And keep those tops trimmed off. Get it nice and wide. Go 12/12 about a week after you are done topping. Then the day you go 12/12 defolaite the lower portions. And at around day 18 to 21 of (12/12) I would give one final round of defoliation. Taking off most of the leaves.
Do you pre treat for pests and fungus? For example I give mine 3 in 1 once a week until week 3. I find they like it. And it keeps problems away.

I do 34% h202. Dilluted. Every 3 days. I dont have anything to tie the plant ties to. I can do the outside. But not the inside. What do i do there?

 

[Ponky]

I do 34% h202. Dilluted. Every 3 days. I dont have anything to tie the plant ties to. I can do the outside. But not the inside. What do i do there?

If you can get a bag of binder clips and put them around the outside you could have some anchor points. For the inside you could get a few pieces of wood. Put them between the rows with some garden wire pre attached. And use them to anchor to. Or maybe some tomato cages. Once they're lollipoped and defoliated it will be a lot easier to tie the arms down. You could even use a bungee cord up the middle. And tie a bunch of pipe cleaners or garden wire to it. And that should do the trick too. Low. Wide. Lots of air flow. And less leaves. And get rid of the shadows. And keep the pests and fungus away. Those should be real nice. First few times I defoliated I though I killed the things. But it turned out to be my best move.

 

[Ponky]

I do 34% h202. Dilluted. Every 3 days. I dont have anything to tie the plant ties to. I can do the outside. But not the inside. What do i do there?

Also the reason I recommend safers 3 in 1 as a preventative is that is Sulphur in it and I swear my plants like it. Like it nourishes them. And when I skimp on it I get pm or bud rot. And when I'm generous with it I have no problems. And that safers defender powder is no good for cannabis. The pre mixed 3 in 1 only. If you use that brand. If you've never had fungus and aren't in a risky climate you might not need any sort of treatment. Stuff only works on bugs if you don't have any yet.

 

[DazedNconfused78]

If you can get a bag of binder clips and put them around the outside you could have some anchor points. For the inside you could get a few pieces of wood. Put them between the rows with some garden wire pre attached. And use them to anchor to. Or maybe some tomato cages. Once they're lollipoped and defoliated it will be a lot easier to tie the arms down. You could even use a bungee cord up the middle. And tie a bunch of pipe cleaners or garden wire to it. And that should do the trick too. Low. Wide. Lots of air flow. And less leaves. And get rid of the shadows. And keep the pests and fungus away. Those should be real nice. First few times I defoliated I though I killed the things. But it turned out to be my best move.

Bungee cords. Thats perfect. Thanks! Your a frickin life saver. I know that will work for sure!

 

[growsince79]

The rule/suggestion I've always heard is 1 plant per square foot. 4x4=16sqft 16 plants. If that helps.

IMO 16 is ok if you flip at 2-3 weeks from sprout. For a 4 week veg, I'd do 8 plants topped once or twice.

 

[DazedNconfused78]

I'll post pics when im done. Lights come on at 10

 

[DazedNconfused78]

Bungees worked really good to tie the hemp twine to. Thanks @Ponky
It doesn't look like it did much. But some of those branches are sideways

 

[DazedNconfused78]

And then what they look like just a few hours later

 

[Arya]

Hey all!

How many flowering plants can i fit under one 1000w light in a 4x4 flood table?

I'm germinating some indica seeds.

I'd like to use 6x6 rockwool cubes for one table and hydroton or coco in 3 gallon smart pots for my second table.

I'm doing ebb and flow.

Thanks yall!

I'm running 4x4 tent 6 plants (smart pots) hand watering soil (light mix) here are pics of them in 2,5 week into flower.hop it helps

 

[Scrogger2190]

Do you have a separate veg space? If not I would do 4 to 16 depending on how quick you want to fill the space out. With separate veg space if you do a 2 month veg while your room is flowering I cant veg more than 2 for 2 months without them being too big for the space. Main thing is figure out your allotted veg time and go from there

 

[XxHammer]

I'm running 4x4 tent 6 plants (smart pots) hand watering soil (light mix) here are pics of them in 2,5 week into flower.hop it helps

I have a 3x3 and have 4 plants... its a tight fit.

In a 4x4, I would do 6 max but that's me. I am on my 1st grow also so less plants to maintain is a little easier than having 12+ plants