Yes you add it with BB and OD meaning when you use BB you add HH then when you switch to OD you would still add HH...until final phase is ran....BlueBerryMaster
Also not sure what charles is doing but our plants stay lush green all the way through until flush NO YELLOWING. We are speaking of HYDRO use CORRECT????...BlueBerryMaster
Also i have to add that can't stress enough on the use of CARBOLOAD it is a key to monster bud. Imagin a weight lifter the guy uses tons of protien and what?? CARB'S why? to put on that weight and build mass!!! The same applies with the plants..THINK ABOUT IT........ CARBOLOAD is a must if not you are missing out on alittle extra...PERIOD....BlueBerryMaster
You could get by with out being there but its hard to stay away when you got such beautiful ladies waiting for you...
No problem asking bro ...With This system you really only need the basics..I had good sucess with the yellow bottles but at the end of the day there super expensive and I have had the same sucess with similar products..JACK
No need for top feed but you could modify it any way you like...JACK
I really dont want to come off like I dont appreciate the advice beacuse I do it just seems unless you have ran Under water culture with the above nute combo you should step away from the key pad,And if you have I am all ears..Lets not make this a pissing match of what nute company is best..Just want to know If I run the above combo for a 9 week strain. When do I start pk13 / 14 ?when do I start Boost?, BIG BUD? ,OVERDRIVE?...Thanks for the help JACK
Thanks Bro im deffiently going to stick to the basics,Im really really diggin the new system and plan on giving it a year in both rooms and when the 13 gallon buckets get here shits going to be on...:cool0010:I feel violated.:evilgrin0040:
What just happened to this thread? Feel like I just watched an 1:30 AM advertorial on cable.
I'm gonna say this once......environmental conditions are king. These "specific" recommendations of supplements rarely if ever take into account room conditions.
Humidity, Temp and ambient CO2 levels largely dictate the way plants use nutrients....with this said plants obviously need differing nutrient combinations depending on the specific conditions.
Not once have I seen any nutrient "manufacturer" that gives specific ratios based on the environmental conditions or light concentrations for that matter.
Don't be mislead into thinking too much about supplements. Do your self a favor and grow with just the base nutes + (1) bloom booster....maybe 3 inputs at most, and see what your results are like.
Focus on climate, genetics and basic plant nutrition and you'll never look back....the perverbial "Holy Grail" for plant growth isn't sold in a bottle...it's nature guys.
You'll be surprised what a plants true potential is once you quit trying to manipulate it and let nature take it's course.
We now return (HOPEFULLY) to our regularly scheduled Jack Fest.
I have run 4 16xl undercurrents with 16k in a sealed room with all the goodies. As mentioned by the guru above this system is NOT meant to have 27 different hocus pocus additives. It is optimal with your favorite A&B along with one bloom booster/finishing agent and cal/mag. You can run all the side by sides you want and you will not beat this kiss method. All those additives and sooner or later white slimy roots will overtake this system.
Call me what you will but this recipe specifically for the "undercurrents" will blow it out of the box everytime.
DM gold A&B
Nothing more or less, you can thank me later and save a ton of dough in the process.
Thanks Bro im deffiently going to stick to the basics,Im really really diggin the new system and plan on giving it a year in both rooms and when the 13 gallon buckets get here shits going to be on...:cool0010:
This is exacatly what I wanted to here from some one who has been there and done that..What where your results with this combo?:clapping
I rarley ask these types of questions for this very reason there is never a clear answer and it always turns into my buds are the size of a donkeys dick....JACKMAYOFFER
People have been running sealed rooms for quite a while...So if there is a lack of oxygen during the dark period that slows down photosynthesis it is probably made up for with the 1500ppm of c02 during lights on...Without the sealed room it is difficult to maintain these high c02 readings..
The sealed room also seems to offer a little more security from odor escaping...
Ummm, not trying to be a dick or get the thread off track, but you might consider checking out a plant physiology book. Plants don't use oxygen, its a byproduct, so oxygen levels during dark period doesn't mean squat.
Oxygen actually competes with CO2 for the active site of the enzyme that begins phytosynthesis, in a process called photorespiration, which actually uses energy instead of creating it. Its basically PS running backwards.
Best of luck
http://www.accessscience.com/abstract.aspx?id=524600 said:Plant Respiration:
The metabolism of organic molecules using enzymes to generate usable energy in the form of adenosine triphosphate (ATP). The ATP made by respiration is used in plant cells to move things within the cell, to make new molecules needed for growth, and to power active transport (the pumping of ions or other substances across a cell membrane against an osmotic gradient). Most plant respiration is aerobic—that is, it requires the presence of oxygen—and involves the oxidation of sugars to carbon dioxide. When oxygen is not present, anaerobic respiration, or fermentation, occurs, allowing some ATP synthesis. Fermentation is much less efficient in harvesting energy from organic molecules than aerobic respiration is, and most plants do not tolerate long periods of anaerobiosis. Plant respiration encompasses several pathways, including glycolysis, the Krebs cycle, and oxidative electron transport. It occurs in all plant cells and is generally similar to animal respiration, with a few notable exceptions such as a cyanide-insensitive respiration mechanism lacking in animals.