Affordable Extraction and Evaporation Equipment

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LOL. Hope this doesnt bite me in the ass! Couldnt resist at that price. Walmart?

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This unit is 220V. I will have to get a 110v-220V converter. RPM reading might be out. But unit should operate overall. Any suggestions? There is also a 3L 110v model for same price, but glassware (receiver flask) in 220v unit looks better.
 
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LOL. Hope this doesnt bite me in the ass! Couldnt resist at that price. Walmart?

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This unit is 220V. I will have to get a 110v-220V converter. RPM reading might be out. But unit should operate overall. Any suggestions? There is also a 3L 110v model for same price, but glassware (receiver flask) in 220v unit looks better.
ohhhh buddy, hopefully you did not buy already?

It's missing so key attributes if that pic is correct.
 
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ohhhh buddy, hopefully you did not buy already?

It's missing so key attributes if that pic is correct.
HELP!

What is wrong with it? I might be able to cancel still.

EDIT: Just found a video of same unit.
 
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The number one thing is there is nothing to prevent bumping - which is basically overboiling and spilling into the receiving flask. Take a look at mine in the link provided and see how the plumbing is different? There is a tube between the flask and condenser. Do you see that? There is no direct path for the source to get to the output flask without going thru the condenser. And with the size and angle, only vapor can make it thru.

I'm also concerned that it looks like there is no vacuum port at the top of the condenser. Can you verify how the vacuum hoses connect?


Its a you get what you pay for kinda thing.

Edit: it will work don't freak out if you bought it already.
 
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Yes. I realized it was a bit sketchy. But for the price, how could I resist?

The guy in video above says he purchased adapters for it and actually did put a bump trap in it. Provided adapter will also allow the use of some US glassware.

Yes, there is a vacuum connection and water cooling.
 
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Thanks Moe

So I ordered the above Vevor vac/water pump.

I have to say, very fast shipping from Vevor. I ordered a 2 stage vacuum pump on the 15th of July and just received it at my door.

Now......is it worth anything?
 
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Yes, use it with a Buchner funnel to filter lipids after winterization. I show one in use in that vid too.

Something like this

I watched your video when you first posted it. Didnt realize it was your video until after you mentioned you posted it a second time. Nice lab you got there. Very jealous.

Had I spent the same money on my cannabis lab that I have spent on and in my PC lab thru the years, I would have a lab similar to yours. PCs, another expensive hobby! I dont think I have built a PC in over 12 years that wasnt custom water cooled.
 
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Yeah man my pc game is strong. I have a valve index VR setup in my living room with an 85’ monitor. Love that shit too.

Here’s my view as I type this.

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Pc is in the cabinet to the left. HDMI run thru the walls.

VR is something else these days. I’ll opt for the brain implant when they start making them lol

That cabinet I built custom with the swinging keyboard mount. Room for flight controller and all the fun stuff.
 
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Yeah man my pc game is strong. I have a valve index VR setup in my living room with an 85’ monitor. Love that shit too.

Here’s my view as I type this.

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Pc is in the cabinet to the left. HDMI run thru the walls.

VR is something else these days. I’ll opt for the brain implant when they start making them lol

That cabinet I built custom with the swinging keyboard mount. Room for flight controller and all the fun stuff.
Nice!
Always wanted to check out VR. Is another fair expenditure to keep up with it, so I didnt make it there yet. I still do some PC gaming though. Mostly the Battlfield series and a few other games. Its funny. I have a lot of the latest AAA PC games, but have yet to of played them more than an hour or so. Mostly just to check out bleeding-edge graphics with latest hardware. My current main system is an i9-10850K, Asus Strix Z490-A, 16GB DDR4-4000mhz, RTX3070. First PC I built for myself in a long time without a top-tier video card. It was ridiculous trying to get a new video card. And if you could find one, scalped at 300% of MSRP! Scalped by the big boys themselves as well. Not only shitheads online scalping video cards, but the manufacturers and retailers were scalping as well. MSI noteabley caught red-handed. Isnt market manipulation grande?
That alone has left a sour taste in my mouth with the PC industry and am beginning to move interests elsewhere. Hence, furthering my interest in extraction and refinement. I want my concentrate as clean and as pure as possible. Cost effective. ZERO additives. Well, other than any residual Everclear.
 
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OK. If this is allowed, I will post what I have found in my quest for Affordable Extraction and refinement Equipment. Items will be posted as I find them, not in order they would be utilized. The majority of the equipment can be found at Vevor. Prices are good, very fast shipping, and what I have received from them to date has been very acceptable. Some items listed I have not personally purchased or tested. I will indicate this. If and when I do purchase these items, I will update as required. I will include prices at time of writing.

DISCLAIMER: I am no scientist or expert. But my former career in the oilfield involed some chemistry and fractional distillation among other things. So I kind of have a foot in the door. I am simply Jonny Joe offering up what I have learned and found in my quest of making my own FSO. Fortunately, seems we do have a few resident scientists/experts in house. With that said, I am on a learning curve with some of this equipment and their procedures. I can only offer what I have learned from experience and the vast knowledge of the net. There are far more knowledgeable people here in this forum than me. Feel free to correct me.

My aim is to help others with an affordable solution to produce high quality concentrates for personal use. Some day I will take on growing. In my opinion, growing quality bud and extraction are both arts in them selves.

I will start with a Reaction Chamber as it is versatile and you can actually do extractions with it. With the right setup, it could almost be turn-key.

Reaction Chamber

VEVOR Jacketed Reactor 5L Laboratory Glass Reactor $1044.99CAD - Purchased
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- Extractions, Homogenize, Infuse, Winterize, Colour/Pestiside Remediation, Distillation/Solvent Recovery, Decarboxylation



Biomass Press

VEVOR Wine Presser, 0.5Gal/2L Grape Press $99.99CAD - Purchased
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- Press and squeeze biomass to recover as much solution as possible. Waste not - want not.





EVAPORATION / SOLVENT RECOVERY

Source Turbo $735CAD - Purchased
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Great machine! The first actual piece of equipment I have purchased. Works great and as advertised. You can evaporate and efficiently recover the solvent. You can use it as a Vacuum Pump to utilize a Buchner Funnel to Vacuum Filter the solution prior to evaporation.

- Although ExtractCraft endorses the use of the Source Turbo for Vacuum Filtering, and it does it great, I wouldnt recommend it. I did it in a pinch, but get a dedicated pump. Dont wear the turbo out filtering. And there is a chance you could suck solvent into the unit if volume in flask gets too high. You not only killed the pump, but can no longer use the Source Turbo for what it is. I am not going to risk it again.

Small batches and takes approx two hours for one cycle. Several cycles maybe required to fully evaporate the batch solution.

- Evaporation and solvent recovery. Vacuum filtering. Possibly decarboxylation (i havent confirmed)



Rotary Evaporators
The unit @Moe.Red utilizes in his video is a much better and solid unit than the ones I list. Its the real deal. I would recommend it first. However, it is priced about $2500CAD just for the Rotovap alone. We are trying to be on the 'cheap' in this thread.

Lumana Rotary Evaporator 5L ($351.00) - Purchased
Ordered but still on boat from China. @Moe.Red pointed out to me that there is no Bump Trap. That might be an issue. I believe a Bump Trap can be found for it. Will have to be very careful in the mean time.
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- Evaporation and Solvent Recovery


Bmatwk 1L Roary Evaporator ($51.00CAD)- Purchased
This is almost laughable in pricing. Ordered but still on boat from China. Expectations are not high.
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- Evaporation and Solvent Recovery


Vacuum Pump / Chiller / Cold Trap

Circulating Water Vacuum Pump Air 60L/min Stainless 180W Lab Chemistry Equipment ($221.99) - Purchased

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This unit acts as a Vacuum Pump, Water Circulating Chiller, and Cold Trap. All required to operate a Rotovap, Reaction Chamber*, or Molecular/Short Path Still.
*Depending on process

- Vacuum Pump, Water Chiller / Circulating pump, Cold Trap*
*Ice Water

Filtration

Buckner Funnel
- Purchased
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Use a Buchner Funnel with a Vacuum Flask to Vacuum Filter your solution prior to evaporation. A Buchner Funnel is used with Filtrate Paper to Vacuum Filter. Optionally, but I recommend, use in tandem with filter medium(s). Prior to evaporation is the time to do all filtering. If filling Vape Carts, filtering is very important for function and longevity of vape carts.
A ceramic or porcelain funnel is best. I have used a plastic one and it worked. With ceramic or porcelain, less chance of 'leaching' and they retain cold temperatures longer for filtering.

-Ashless Filtrate Paper. I tend to stick with the finer grades. Filtrate Paper comes in various sizes and grades. Match paper size to funnel. Most funnels indicate paper size when purchasing.
- Filter Mediums I have used are Diatomaceous Earth (Celite) and Activated Charcoal. Charcoal for colour/pesticide remediation, and Celite for lipid/wax removal. Seems to work well.
- There are Fritted Funnels and Perforated Funnels. I prefer Perforated. Ease of maintenance.

This is just what I have found and purchased so far in a hobby that turned quest. Please feel free to post better options or deals. I will continue to update as I find goods.

More to come if mods/admins allow me to edit this post.
 
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