An Aggie and His Hippie Trees - First Try indoors

[Captspaulding]

I have a 5k b

Hahaha You got it, Exactly what I’m doing! Me saying I by passed the sensor was really misleading. What I was trying to say. Is the window ac unit sensor will be reading the lung room temp. So I set the unit to ON and the temp at 74. This time of year it is highly unlikely for my lung room to get down to 74 alal I bypassed the sensor

So the experiment worked and I let the AI control it all and for the past 18 hours it has kept temps and humidity right were it needs to be.

Downside: I went back and started reviewing the logs and pretty much it was kicking the AC on and off every 5 mins. Well we can’t have that it will just burn up the compressor in no time.

Was it kicking on and off at night or was it kicking on and off during the day? This makes a huge difference now in my lung room.
I live in Tejas I take it you do as well,
My 5000 BTU toshiba wal mart window unit is going on seven years old now and being where I’m located the only time that it’s never not on is when a hurricane comes through and this includes all winter long. It’s always on always. during the day it doesn’t kick on and off as much as you would think it’s still runs basically the same way it would naturally without there being a grow space ventilating air right next to the room it’s operating in.
At night though, and this is doing much cooler temperatures it does have a tendency to kick on and off a bit more than you would like that being said 5000 BTU Walmart purchased Toshiba? Going on seven years old and that’s pretty good for a $130 purchase.
It’s pretty shocking how decent some of the components are inside of a lot of these cheaper appliances these days now that being said everything that’s wrapped around these components in these appliances is all garbage plastic garbage

My two cents best of luck

 

[aggiefarmer]

I have a 5k b

Was it kicking on and off at night or was it kicking on and off during the day? This makes a huge difference now in my lung room.
I live in Tejas I take it you do as well,
My 5000 BTU toshiba wal mart window unit is going on seven years old now and being where I’m located the only time that it’s never not on is when a hurricane comes through and this includes all winter long. It’s always on always. during the day it doesn’t kick on and off as much as you would think it’s still runs basically the same way it would naturally without there being a grow space ventilating air right next to the room it’s operating in.
At night though, and this is doing much cooler temperatures it does have a tendency to kick on and off a bit more than you would like that being said 5000 BTU Walmart purchased Toshiba? Going on seven years old and that’s pretty good for a $130 purchase.
It’s pretty shocking how decent some of the components are inside of a lot of these cheaper appliances these days now that being said everything that’s wrapped around these components in these appliances is all garbage plastic garbage

My two cents best of luck

Thank you! Well once my lung room cools down to 75 the AC runs once every couple hours. During the day time it yeah constantly kicks on and off.

For sure if it goes out I will purchase another and add the AllState protection plan.

Also in the couple 2 months I am going to create a true lung room using my drying tent and a portable AC. Should allow be to be on a closed loop system and increase my efficiencies is my thought.

 

[aggiefarmer]

Today I just had a feeling that less is more. I turned the light down from 4 to 3.

Also I am debating on just using the Fox Farms Trio I have gotten a lot more comfortable mixing up nutes. Not sure that changing my grow style makes sense still got tons to learn and understand.

 

[Captspaulding]

With the fox Farm trio, as long as you go ahead and you start at half dose nutes and then watch your plants, see whether or not they get pissed off at that frequency generally most strains like to start off at that amount for the most part. 1/2 dose is actually a great strating point for most nutrients as you dial in to what the strain wants. Also, you really shouldn’t start nutes with any of your plants until they are in veg,
Seedling sprout with more than enough nutrition to last them all the way through the seedling stage, so giving them any nutrients at that point can be detrimental also depending on what type of soil you were using that generally loaded with a lot of nutrition as well but you’re not really making that available to seedlings too terribly much because instead of watering an entire pot you should just be using a spray bottle with seedlings about 10 sprays right at the stalk all the way through until they hit veg comfortably then once they hit veg, start saturating the medium a little bit more.
Now also, as far as lung room conditions and seedlings, you can have higher rh, and warmer temps and it won’t be a problem what you need to do is make sure that you have your lights set at the proper height of 25 to 30 inches above the canopy of your plant even as seedlings adjusting the output up if you start to see your seedling stretch a bit and get lanky if they do don’t worry because you’ll be able to bury the stalk if it does, when you up pot and switch to veg because the stalk of a seedling generally hasn’t hardened off to the point where it won’t produce off chutes.
You don’t ever wanna go above 50% output in veg on cultivars nowadays on 99% of lamps that are made are very powerful even a 1000 watt/100 watt par equivelant
Myself personally I never go above 40% output on any of my lamps all through vegetative stage and flower I haven’t had any of my gear above 80 at the time of harvest so your less is more approach is a good way to think about it
So the name of the game is to incrementally increase your light output overtime through each stage of growth, allowing the plant to harden off to the lamps intensities so from sprout to veg you really shouldn’t have your lamps doing more than 10 to 15% (this is not a set in stone guideline because even still there are some strains that can take more than that, but it doesn’t mean that you should give them more than that. It’ll grow just fine at these settings) output then once you are comfortably in the veg stage, you should be going incrementally now from 10 to 15% up to 40 or 50% not surpassing the 50% mark until you get to the point where you’re gonna flip to flower then you’re gonna start to incrementally (when i say uptick overtime im meaning 3-5% every 4-7 days all stages generally. depending on strain) up tick with the goal of getting your lamp output, cranked all the way up most strains will bitch before that point though, also you should keep your light fixed at the same height for the entire grow basically and instead of dropping your lamp down, you should be boosting the plants that want more light up to it using a box or a tote, etc.
Reason being is even if you have a crop that is all from the same stock that is the same strain recessive genes or phenotype variants can have different needs then the other plants in proximity, better to boost the plants that want the light as opposed to dropping the lamp down on top of them and possibly pissing off some plants by manipulating your environment in a way that is not conducive to every plant needs in your crop if that makes sense. Just throwing out some good stuff for you. Glean what you can from my Babel holler at me if you need any more help.

I know I just blew you up with a whole bunch of info, but you rock out with these metrics. It’ll be a great help.

 

[aggiefarmer]

With the fox Farm trio, as long as you go ahead and you start at half dose nutes and then watch your plants, see whether or not they get pissed off at that frequency generally most strains like to start off at that amount for the most part. 1/2 dose is actually a great strating point for most nutrients as you dial in to what the strain wants. Also, you really shouldn’t start nutes with any of your plants until they are in veg,
Seedling sprout with more than enough nutrition to last them all the way through the seedling stage, so giving them any nutrients at that point can be detrimental also depending on what type of soil you were using that generally loaded with a lot of nutrition as well but you’re not really making that available to seedlings too terribly much because instead of watering an entire pot you should just be using a spray bottle with seedlings about 10 sprays right at the stalk all the way through until they hit veg comfortably then once they hit veg, start saturating the medium a little bit more.
Now also, as far as lung room conditions and seedlings, you can have higher rh, and warmer temps and it won’t be a problem what you need to do is make sure that you have your lights set at the proper height of 25 to 30 inches above the canopy of your plant even as seedlings adjusting the output up if you start to see your seedling stretch a bit and get lanky if they do don’t worry because you’ll be able to bury the stalk if it does, when you up pot and switch to veg because the stalk of a seedling generally hasn’t hardened off to the point where it won’t produce off chutes.
You don’t ever wanna go above 50% output in veg on cultivars nowadays on 99% of lamps that are made are very powerful even a 1000 watt/100 watt par equivelant
Myself personally I never go above 40% output on any of my lamps all through vegetative stage and flower I haven’t had any of my gear above 80 at the time of harvest so your less is more approach is a good way to think about it
So the name of the game is to incrementally increase your light output overtime through each stage of growth, allowing the plant to harden off to the lamps intensities so from sprout to veg you really shouldn’t have your lamps doing more than 10 to 15% (this is not a set in stone guideline because even still there are some strains that can take more than that, but it doesn’t mean that you should give them more than that. It’ll grow just fine at these settings) output then once you are comfortably in the veg stage, you should be going incrementally now from 10 to 15% up to 40 or 50% not surpassing the 50% mark until you get to the point where you’re gonna flip to flower then you’re gonna start to incrementally (when i say uptick overtime im meaning 3-5% every 4-7 days all stages generally. depending on strain) up tick with the goal of getting your lamp output, cranked all the way up most strains will bitch before that point though, also you should keep your light fixed at the same height for the entire grow basically and instead of dropping your lamp down, you should be boosting the plants that want more light up to it using a box or a tote, etc.
Reason being is even if you have a crop that is all from the same stock that is the same strain recessive genes or phenotype variants can have different needs then the other plants in proximity, better to boost the plants that want the light as opposed to dropping the lamp down on top of them and possibly pissing off some plants by manipulating your environment in a way that is not conducive to every plant needs in your crop if that makes sense. Just throwing out some good stuff for you. Glean what you can from my Babel holler at me if you need any more help.

I know I just blew you up with a whole bunch of info, but you rock out with these metrics. It’ll be a great help.

Thank you there is a lot of great information that you provided me. Reducing the light from 4 down to 3 i already noticed a difference over night (not some magical huge difference) but they just looked a bit happier. Also Noticed my Tomato, Lemon Pepper seedlings are also happier with the reduction in intensity. Currently the light is 26 inches away. Dropping the Intensity basically took par from 360-400 down to 250.

I have been backing off the water. My only experience was my current outdoor grow and honestly it has been nothing but a battle to keep plants watered due to the heat. So i am learning i can dial it back significantly in the tent.

As far as nutrients i plant to wait till at least day 28-30 and then will start with feedings at 50%. I decided 3 plants will be on Fox Farms and 1 plant will be on Natures Living Soil.

My photo period beans arrive today. I will prolly start 2 of them next week.

The Lung Room Idea - Currently the tent stays in optimal ranges as everything sits. The Lung Room idea is more about creating efficiencies for my AC equipment also I need a drying tent. So figured that would be a way to get a 2 for 1.

 

[aggiefarmer]

Looks like I’m getting some sort of issue. Started them in Happy Frog only didn’t expect to see a burn.

Dropped the plants down another 6 inches. Will see how they respond.

Have the on 4 plants.

Face fat just keeps shriveling up.

 

[aggiefarmer]

New growth is coming in. Everything in the tent is very happy except for the autoflowers.

Been Gathering up seeds. Order a few Brothers Grimm Tester Packs.

Also got some Royal Queen coming in.

My guess is just based on way things are looking early on it is looking like I’m gonna grow continue with miniature autos.

Going to pop at least 2 photo periods when I get back from out of town.

I have lots to choose from so will prolly choose a freebie.

I feel like this first year I’m gonna butcher a lot of plants.