At What Point Is Sex Obvious?

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So, this first grow is completely jacked because things call just kind of fell into place and the right, and wrong time. I just had a hodge-podge of seeds (no known strains or anything), and did not even know they would germinate or sprout. Once they did, I was in a mad dash getting a tent and all the other stuff over the course of some weeks. I sort of kept a calendar of major events, but did not really track anything too much on this grow as I just figured I would see it through to the end.

Anyway, I am at the stage where I need to make the choice to SCRoG or not, and some other decisions. I have nine plants, however, I still have no idea how many are female. I haven't been able to see the sex of any of the plants yet.

I have studied pictures, read articles, and I am pretty sure I am looking in the right place, I just do not see anything there. So, I'm looking for a little help on sexing and that timeline.

Does the plant have to have a minimum amount of nodes before it begins to show its sex? Does it only show on one or two nodes?

If I am allowed to post pictures on here, if someone will show me an image of exactly where to take a picture on my plants, I'll show that area for opinions.
 
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Thanks. I'll dive through a bunch of those pictures tonight and see what I can come up with. Another question I have since it seems the answer varies widely even in texts, but what point should I start to be able to see the pre-flowers (or whatever I'm needing to look for) in time to pull the males? Is that in the veg stage (like I am thinking), or does it not happen until right after flipping into the flower stage? Do you sometimes not get to see the sex until right about time to flower?

What kind?

When she sticks her tongue in your ear :)
 
oldskol4evr

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Thanks. I'll dive through a bunch of those pictures tonight and see what I can come up with. Another question I have since it seems the answer varies widely even in texts, but what point should I start to be able to see the pre-flowers (or whatever I'm needing to look for) in time to pull the males? Is that in the veg stage (like I am thinking), or does it not happen until right after flipping into the flower stage? Do you sometimes not get to see the sex until right about time to flower?
if you dont mind mutated looking leaves,you could sex them early and throw back in veg,well known brother taught me this one,half cup of soil in solo cup when it get first set of true leaves flip the bitch to flower,10 to 14 days you will have your answer,if there big enough to clone,take a cut ,root it flip straight to flower
 
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if you dont mind mutated looking leaves,you could sex them early and throw back in veg,well known brother taught me this one,half cup of soil in solo cup when it get first set of true leaves flip the bitch to flower,10 to 14 days you will have your answer,if there big enough to clone,take a cut ,root it flip straight to flower
How long would it take to tell in veg using a 60 power magnifier?took 3 months of a few of mine my eyes must be getting tired.
 
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So, let me ask this. Could I not be seeing signs of sex at this point because I have had my LED light running with the Veg switch only on? This is obviously something of debate on forums and articles, whether to use just the veg switch during veg, or both for the full intensity. So, two days ago I raised my lights a bit and started running it with both switches on (Veg and Flower). Any chance that since I haven't been running any red spectrum that my pre-flowers are delayed or something?

Lol though, I'm holding out hope that I am just overly impatient and need to wait just a bit longer because most sources say that males a visible sooner than females... lol
 
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How long would it take to tell in veg using a 60 power magnifier?took 3 months of a few of mine my eyes must be getting tired.
whats up corn bread havent heard from you in a while,so ya i start the seed in half a cup of ocean forest,then the shit grows a long as stem,hahahha but ya i just prop that bitch up with a bread sack tie,and when it get the first set of true leaves just put it in your grow room,all mine show sex in about 10 days,after i sex them into final pots and bury that slanky bitchs leg hahah,only issue is the damn leaves will be 1 or 3 leaves sets,weird shit,but i aint smoking that hahah still photo if you dig,you can also take your cut and put in a glass of water and throw in the flower room i have never done it but some swear by it,me i dont give a shit about pretty i just want the nugs hahah
 
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So, let me ask this. Could I not be seeing signs of sex at this point because I have had my LED light running with the Veg switch only on? This is obviously something of debate on forums and articles, whether to use just the veg switch during veg, or both for the full intensity. So, two days ago I raised my lights a bit and started running it with both switches on (Veg and Flower). Any chance that since I haven't been running any red spectrum that my pre-flowers are delayed or something?

Lol though, I'm holding out hope that I am just overly impatient and need to wait just a bit longer because most sources say that males a visible sooner than females... lol
so your in veg right? you will have to put them in 12/12 mod to get sex or you veg to long them bitchs will show in veg too,far as light goes,i got 2 of the cheap as chiner lights,full spectrum 300 watt led,i veg and flower under them,but i also have a limited space to grow,so when mine get 16in tall flower time if you dig
 
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when you see this is when it should be obvious you have a male.

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Your males will generally grow faster,taller and reach sexual maturity faster. This way he is towering above the female so when shes ready and he busts his nutz the pollen falls on her pistils.
 
somethingwit

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Your males will generally grow faster,taller and reach sexual maturity faster. This way he is towering above the female so when shes ready and he busts his nutz the pollen falls on her pistils.

Thanks for the detailed picture. Curious, for the female pre-flower (listed above as female early flower) at that stage, will I need a magnifying glass or some other optical insturment to see what is shown in the top left picture? Or can it be seen with the naked eye?
 
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Thanks for the detailed picture. Curious, for the female pre-flower (listed above as female early flower) at that stage, will I need a magnifying glass or some other optical insturment to see what is shown in the top left picture? Or can it be seen with the naked eye?
they usally pretty easy to see,its the males that will confuse ya,then some plants have both showing
 
somethingwit

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So, I looked again right before lights out last night. Still couldn't tell for sure. On three of the plants, I did find I single little oval (or at least elliptical) shaped right where everything is supposed to be. However, it is still way too small for me to see if there are going to be those two white hairs coming out of them, or if there are going to be more of those sacs coming up.

So, I guess the question I have this morning is do you usually see and know the sex of the plant before making use of SCRoG? I assume so because that would be a pain to find out it is all male and have to unweave everything to get it out. Just wanted to ask to cover all bases.

I went over some of my notes, and I am estimating that I germinated these seeds on 27 JUL, so I am guessing I am in the fifth week (since germination and put into soil). Maybe I'm just right at that cusp of things starting to become visible?
 
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