Been making my own carts for a couple of months and have some questions...

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Moe.Red

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i put the glass container in a brownie pan and after i take it out of the oven there is oil on the pan, is that thc being evaporated?
i just want to make sure i don't leave it in there too long or that im not wasting too much of the concentrate.. tko extracts
Well honestly something doesn't add up. Let's break it down a bit.

First, your source is Short Path concentrate. That should be a barely viscous honey like material that is virtually all cannabinoids. It should be decarbed already as part of the distillation process.

Then you go on to further decarb this for 4 hours. This is because there are still bubbles.

Then during the 4 hour process, something is evaporating and re-condensing on the glass. You state it is oil. Both THC and CBD would dry out to white crystals - powdery - if you were somehow able to separate these out in this process. CBG is a pink semi hard blob. THCV is a brown glass like substance. None of them are oil.

Then you have the bubbles that continue after 4 hours. I think you have something other than a SP distillate, or there is something else added back in post process.

No, you definitely do not want to declare for 4 hours. Even if it is not cannabinoids collecting on your glass, you are in fact destroying them with a 4 hour decarb. This I know from my own time and temp decarb testing using TLC to measure cannabinoids. I have a video series about that here somewhere.

Really what I need to help you is more info. Post some pics of the source material, the process, and the resulting oil and I'll try to figure it out with you. You also could tell us more about the source. Are you making it or buying it? Is there a label, or a website we can look at?

Need more info to help you, but if you did not decarb for 4 hours, we wouldn't see the oil. Just the bubbles. So what is causing the bubbles is the real question. My guess is terpenes or something is added back in post distillation and that is your issue.
 
Eskander

Eskander

Well honestly something doesn't add up. Let's break it down a bit.

First, your source is Short Path concentrate. That should be a barely viscous honey like material that is virtually all cannabinoids. It should be decarbed already as part of the distillation process.

Then you go on to further decarb this for 4 hours. This is because there are still bubbles.

Then during the 4 hour process, something is evaporating and re-condensing on the glass. You state it is oil. Both THC and CBD would dry out to white crystals - powdery - if you were somehow able to separate these out in this process. CBG is a pink semi hard blob. THCV is a brown glass like substance. None of them are oil.

Then you have the bubbles that continue after 4 hours. I think you have something other than a SP distillate, or there is something else added back in post process.

No, you definitely do not want to declare for 4 hours. Even if it is not cannabinoids collecting on your glass, you are in fact destroying them with a 4 hour decarb. This I know from my own time and temp decarb testing using TLC to measure cannabinoids. I have a video series about that here somewhere.

Really what I need to help you is more info. Post some pics of the source material, the process, and the resulting oil and I'll try to figure it out with you. You also could tell us more about the source. Are you making it or buying it? Is there a label, or a website we can look at?

Need more info to help you, but if you did not decarb for 4 hours, we wouldn't see the oil. Just the bubbles. So what is causing the bubbles is the real question. My guess is terpenes or something is added back in post distillation and that is your issue.
This is the site she mentioned:
They don't seem to talk about their process at all but their products are made for CCELL pens. Not sure if those get hot enough to do decarb.

What I envision from what she has said is that she is opening up a premade cart and baking it for a few hours and some of it is bubbling out of the glass tube onto the tray. Is bubbling outgassing or chemical reaction? Would the long cook and subsequent degradation outgas enough to explain it?

I think all paths lead to she shouldn't be doing what she is doing. I guess the lingering question in my mind is if she has some fake crap that is doing funky stuff and stumbled across evidence of it.

-Eskander
 
Moe.Red

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This is the site she mentioned:
They don't seem to talk about their process at all but their products are made for CCELL pens. Not sure if those get hot enough to do decarb.

What I envision from what she has said is that she is opening up a premade cart and baking it for a few hours and some of it is bubbling out of the glass tube onto the tray. Is bubbling outgassing or chemical reaction? Would the long cook and subsequent degradation outgas enough to explain it?

I think all paths lead to she shouldn't be doing what she is doing. I guess the lingering question in my mind is if she has some fake crap that is doing funky stuff and stumbled across evidence of it.

-Eskander
OK I missed the TKO thing

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So we have a website written in broken english. It states they are an ETH based product (not short path) and they add "premium terpenes."

Run away, run fast and far. You could not pay me to use this product.
 
leannaepulido

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Well honestly something doesn't add up. Let's break it down a bit.

First, your source is Short Path concentrate. That should be a barely viscous honey like material that is virtually all cannabinoids. It should be decarbed already as part of the distillation process.

Then you go on to further decarb this for 4 hours. This is because there are still bubbles.

Then during the 4 hour process, something is evaporating and re-condensing on the glass. You state it is oil. Both THC and CBD would dry out to white crystals - powdery - if you were somehow able to separate these out in this process. CBG is a pink semi hard blob. THCV is a brown glass like substance. None of them are oil.

Then you have the bubbles that continue after 4 hours. I think you have something other than a SP distillate, or there is something else added back in post process.

No, you definitely do not want to declare for 4 hours. Even if it is not cannabinoids collecting on your glass, you are in fact destroying them with a 4 hour decarb. This I know from my own time and temp decarb testing using TLC to measure cannabinoids. I have a video series about that here somewhere.

Really what I need to help you is more info. Post some pics of the source material, the process, and the resulting oil and I'll try to figure it out with you. You also could tell us more about the source. Are you making it or buying it? Is there a label, or a website we can look at?

Need more info to help you, but if you did not decarb for 4 hours, we wouldn't see the oil. Just the bubbles. So what is causing the bubbles is the real question. My guess is terpenes or something is added back in post distillation and that is your issue. Big chief carts
Thank you for your response.
 
DistyDemon

DistyDemon

Tko carts.......

Your bringing it back 2years back when vape gate happened. A lot of scammers would buy fake ass packaging from dh gate, fill it with their poison, sell to unsuspecting ppl. The end user would get sick and I to the er.


@Moe.Red

Ask your TT buy why audra quit and went to avd!
If your TT rep want to deny things, I still have factory sealed bottles of TT dilutents, I can find a lab and have them test it like I did 2 yrs back. Its NOT terps!

IF TT is a site sponcer, I'll stop shedding light on here about their fuckery.
 
Eskander

Eskander

Tko carts.......

Your bringing it back 2years back when vape gate happened. A lot of scammers would buy fake ass packaging from dh gate, fill it with their poison, sell to unsuspecting ppl. The end user would get sick and I to the er.


@Moe.Red

Ask your TT buy why audra quit and went to avd!
If your TT rep want to deny things, I still have factory sealed bottles of TT dilutents, I can find a lab and have them test it like I did 2 yrs back. Its NOT terps!

IF TT is a site sponcer, I'll stop shedding light on here about their fuckery.
Maybe cause she is a chimera and thus clearly evil like left handed people and gingers...

-Eskander

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Budtenda2018

Budtenda2018

Please please please do NOT use true terpenes anything. They sold US (cart makers) MINERAL OIL as a dilutent for carts. I/we have proof. I paid out of my pocket got a lab test. Its NOT terpenes!!!

Floraplex has a much better terpenes available.

No need for a dilutent or thinner. Rosin is tricky to put in a cart, as the could will burn out due to the lipids and waxes still in the rosin.

I also make thousands of carts monthly.
Do you ship?
 
BDH420

BDH420

Here in MA there is a ton of TKO nock off products floating around in our gray/traditional Market. A friend claims to know the guy who makes TKO and says not to buy them any of them nock off or not. He also said if its not the whole battery and cart in one disposable unit its not real tko. It also says this when googling "TKO CARTS" right at the top in bold letters. I decided to call my friend and ask if he sold any short path or any other kind of extract not in a cart attached to a battery. He said no only carts. So product that OP picked up could be fake. As packaging with TKO on it which seems to be popular can be bought on the all over the net.
 
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