Best Top of Line LED For 4x4 or 5x5?

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Bzy

Bzy

I will answer you but first I'm asking you since you made the statement stay FAR away from and said that the hlg are the same as the alibaba boards. I can assure you they aren't but with such a strong statement I would think you have a good understanding of the components and differences. So again I'm asking what the difference you are claiming is.

Already stated it.. same boards, same diodes, same driver.. what else is there that can differ? basically same umols too. but for half the price, thats why stay far away from hlg.
 
Bzy

Bzy

Using the same components doesn't always equate to the same product. That being said, sometimes the savings for the budget brands make sense depending upon the circumstances of the end user.

LED lights have been making huge improvements in the last decade. I'm sure I will I want to upgrade in a few years regardless of what I buy today.

Maybe not but I dont see HLG being twice the price good... ill stick with my Kingbrites until I can afford Thinkgrows.
 
Aqua Man

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Already stated it.. same boards, same diodes, same driver.. what else is there that can differ? basically same umols too. but for half the price, thats why stay far away from hlg.
They are not the same... same brand yes. Top bin diodes.... no and mixed bin is common and even cases of not the diodes claimed. Heat sinks are much better on hlg and that's a large part of the cost. Hlg also have much more diodes which increase efficacy and in turn lowers heat and improves light spread, not to mention should increase lifespan. The number of diodes used also adds to the cost and is a huge factor when selecting a light. The drivers may be of the same brand but often not the same quality and there are many differnt models

Infact the Scorpion diablo kills gavita in efficacy and number of diodes nevermind the kingbrites.

Gavita does not have a built in dimmer and it's about $300 more to get it. Add to that the controller actually reduces the wattage pull from the wall.

Just to add not the same umols and they don't do independent testing... just saying

Now am I saying any of these are crap? Absolutely not... but your statement is not true and is oversimplified. So I hope that gives you some insight as to why they are not the same... because they Absolutely are not the same
 
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DreamwalkerJ

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They are not the same... same brand yes. Top bin diodes.... no and mixed bin is common and even cases of not the diodes claimed. Heat sinks are much better on hlg and that's a large part of the cost. Hlg also have much more diodes which increase efficacy and in turn lowers heat and improves light spread, not to mention should increase lifespan. The number of diodes used also adds to the cost and is a huge factor when selecting a light. The drivers may be of the same brand but often not the same quality and there are many differnt models

Infact the Scorpion diablo kills gavita in efficacy and number of diodes nevermind the kingbrites.

Gavita does not have a built in dimmer and it's about $300 more to get it. Add to that the controller actually reduces the wattage pull from the wall.

Just to add not the same umols and they don't do independent testing... just saying

Now am I saying any of these are crap? Absolutely not... but your statement is not true and is oversimplified. So I hope that gives you some insight as to why they are not the same... because they Absolutely are not the same
There he goes again, hitting us with the facts. @Aqua Man - you should end your posts with a mic drop 🤣🤯
 
Aqua Man

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There he goes again, hitting us with the facts. @Aqua Man - you should end your posts with a mic drop 🤣🤯
Lol he'll no. Not a competition we all on the same page. Just wanted to clear up a statement or atleast give an explanation on the difference.

Will add that while IR is a good addition to many of these fixtures... UV is not, UV diodes are just not where they need to be yet to provide a significant amount to make a difference. The very few that are capable are roughly $20/diode and you would still need alot of them. Unfortunately for now florescent tubes are the best and imo only effect source for UV that fits our needs.
 
DreamwalkerJ

DreamwalkerJ

Lol he'll no. Not a competition we all on the same page. Just wanted to clear up a statement or atleast give an explanation on the difference.

Will add that while IR is a good addition to many of these fixtures... UV is not, UV diodes are just not where they need to be yet to provide a significant amount to make a difference. The very few that are capable are roughly $20/diode and you would still need alot of them. Unfortunately for now florescent tubes are the best and imo only effect source for UV that fits our needs.
So im not the only one that has a rave in his grow tent for the last 2 weeks? 🤣
 
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