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Hey farmers I got broad mites from some ass clown clone dealer and wanted to share with you the steps I am taking to defeat the dreaded broad mite, or to be defeated yet to be seen. Will include pics on next post just want to put the info out there for anyone else foolish like me who did not quarantine new clones before introducing them to the grow.
What is and isn't working personal experience with them:
Is Working:
Avid once at 9ml a gallon with ro water complete coverage tops and bottoms with full suit gloves respirator and goggles!
Forbid 4f 3 days later at 2ml a gallon both applications used with Coco Wet
Results: Immediate new growth and vigor instantly returned to infected plants.
Battle far from over though
Every other day of Neem Oil with Coco wet does not seem to do much for active infestation
Perhaps this will work better as a preventative? Although still too early to tell if Neem Oil is helping or not ( it doesn't seem to hurt plants too badly so no sense in not using it repeatedly...)
Does not work against active Broad Mite infestation:
Azamax
Mighty Wash
Spinosad products
In my smaller veg 5x5 tents of juveniles and my other 5x5 of moms I am having much BETTER success fighting them with above listed steps. (Large flower room is not doing as well all plants still in veg state there)
Also after avid/forbid 4 days apart one application I have removed all the plants bleached EVERYTHING and then heat treated all the plants for around an hour at 120 plus degrees. Even after vigor and health came back to the small moms I have (I cut down the canopy to a very small amount of branches and nodes of all plants) the heat proved to be very effective at killing broad mites although unfortunately it just shows you how fucked up these pests are all the upper leaves (the parts of new growth probably infested still with freshly hatched mites) nearly died or did die from the heat treatment. (Theory is that perhaps the damage from the young alive broad mites is so intense inside the plants tissue that it was not able to survive intense heat.) I am happy to say though that the following day the plants do look back to good health yet still obviously under attack. I did not expect to win this within a few weeks, and if I have to cut down my moms and start over so be it.
I will be cutting down my entire room that has been trellised and prepped for flower for the following reasons:
1. Broad Mites move quickly by contact so the plants being trellised allowed for a faster spread of the infestation. Plants that were previously un infested (although all plants would be infested tho perhaps not visibly) were now 2 days after being trellised full blown in the shitter. Twisting of upper leaves from the toxins released by the broad mites. Death of lower leaves and branches infested across 3 4x4 tables.
2. Larger canopy means greater infestation and reducing the plant canopy in this case is not an options with such large plants trellised.
3. Cost of running co2 and electricity during summer months just to simply grow infested plants hit me hard with this months rent and utility bill with no prospect of a crop being harvested any time soon...
4. Therefore it is most likely wisest move to cut down all large plants and begin to quarantine and eradicate room for room. So enjoy and send some positive prayers my way if you got some actual experience with this bug feel free to chime in!
My plan for treatment of room with no plants:
Bleach 20% solution wipe down of every surface. Spray every surface with forbid 4f. Then bomb with pylon tr. And to repeat this process twice. Then i'll bake the fuckers in the room still savage enough to still be alive...every day for a week 120 degrees plus. Then no plants in there for a month or two fuck it just gotta take the big L and start over.
But I refuse to kill my moms these fuckers gonna lose.
So here is my plan of attack for the moms and small rooted clones 1 week in dixie cups
Already implemented and working:
Avid 1x
Forbid 4f 1x 4 days later
About to be implemented:
Magus Miticide (not sure on application rate yet)
Sanmite Miticide Insectide used once after adults killed with Coco Wet
Triact 70 Fungicide Insecticide (will be using this instead of the Neem Oil from now on every other day until get a better handle on these lil fuckers)
Then will go back to Avid one more time for two weeks
Forbid one more time for two more weeks
Triact 70
Magus
Triact 70
Then finish off with Pylon TR foggers 3x over a month and intense bleach wipedowns of alll surfaces and repeat all this once more...so a month long process.
After a hard month of chems..
Will then go to Caps Foliar Pack no brew just mix with molasses and ro water and spray plant surfaces every other day with triact 70 the following day for a few weeks and then just to make absolutely fucking sure I'm gonna implement predatory mites in large populations periodically over the following month with a solid IPM regimen. Next post will be all the links to my Broad Mite research.
What is and isn't working personal experience with them:
Is Working:
Avid once at 9ml a gallon with ro water complete coverage tops and bottoms with full suit gloves respirator and goggles!
Forbid 4f 3 days later at 2ml a gallon both applications used with Coco Wet
Results: Immediate new growth and vigor instantly returned to infected plants.
Battle far from over though
Every other day of Neem Oil with Coco wet does not seem to do much for active infestation
Perhaps this will work better as a preventative? Although still too early to tell if Neem Oil is helping or not ( it doesn't seem to hurt plants too badly so no sense in not using it repeatedly...)
Does not work against active Broad Mite infestation:
Azamax
Mighty Wash
Spinosad products
In my smaller veg 5x5 tents of juveniles and my other 5x5 of moms I am having much BETTER success fighting them with above listed steps. (Large flower room is not doing as well all plants still in veg state there)
Also after avid/forbid 4 days apart one application I have removed all the plants bleached EVERYTHING and then heat treated all the plants for around an hour at 120 plus degrees. Even after vigor and health came back to the small moms I have (I cut down the canopy to a very small amount of branches and nodes of all plants) the heat proved to be very effective at killing broad mites although unfortunately it just shows you how fucked up these pests are all the upper leaves (the parts of new growth probably infested still with freshly hatched mites) nearly died or did die from the heat treatment. (Theory is that perhaps the damage from the young alive broad mites is so intense inside the plants tissue that it was not able to survive intense heat.) I am happy to say though that the following day the plants do look back to good health yet still obviously under attack. I did not expect to win this within a few weeks, and if I have to cut down my moms and start over so be it.
I will be cutting down my entire room that has been trellised and prepped for flower for the following reasons:
1. Broad Mites move quickly by contact so the plants being trellised allowed for a faster spread of the infestation. Plants that were previously un infested (although all plants would be infested tho perhaps not visibly) were now 2 days after being trellised full blown in the shitter. Twisting of upper leaves from the toxins released by the broad mites. Death of lower leaves and branches infested across 3 4x4 tables.
2. Larger canopy means greater infestation and reducing the plant canopy in this case is not an options with such large plants trellised.
3. Cost of running co2 and electricity during summer months just to simply grow infested plants hit me hard with this months rent and utility bill with no prospect of a crop being harvested any time soon...
4. Therefore it is most likely wisest move to cut down all large plants and begin to quarantine and eradicate room for room. So enjoy and send some positive prayers my way if you got some actual experience with this bug feel free to chime in!
My plan for treatment of room with no plants:
Bleach 20% solution wipe down of every surface. Spray every surface with forbid 4f. Then bomb with pylon tr. And to repeat this process twice. Then i'll bake the fuckers in the room still savage enough to still be alive...every day for a week 120 degrees plus. Then no plants in there for a month or two fuck it just gotta take the big L and start over.
But I refuse to kill my moms these fuckers gonna lose.
So here is my plan of attack for the moms and small rooted clones 1 week in dixie cups
Already implemented and working:
Avid 1x
Forbid 4f 1x 4 days later
About to be implemented:
Magus Miticide (not sure on application rate yet)
Sanmite Miticide Insectide used once after adults killed with Coco Wet
Triact 70 Fungicide Insecticide (will be using this instead of the Neem Oil from now on every other day until get a better handle on these lil fuckers)
Then will go back to Avid one more time for two weeks
Forbid one more time for two more weeks
Triact 70
Magus
Triact 70
Then finish off with Pylon TR foggers 3x over a month and intense bleach wipedowns of alll surfaces and repeat all this once more...so a month long process.
After a hard month of chems..
Will then go to Caps Foliar Pack no brew just mix with molasses and ro water and spray plant surfaces every other day with triact 70 the following day for a few weeks and then just to make absolutely fucking sure I'm gonna implement predatory mites in large populations periodically over the following month with a solid IPM regimen. Next post will be all the links to my Broad Mite research.