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Wasnt that the plant we were calling retarded? Never judge a book by its cover hahaha yeah turns out she was just very hungry huh? I believe you 100% it happened to me many times. Also if you give it a long cure its not only gonna be strong but also tasty tasty! I think most recent strains (crosses of crosses) peak at 1-2 months, sometimes 3. However landraces or not so crossed strains seem to get better for at least 4+ months of cure. Thats just my experience of course, Ive done my experiments over the years, but I cant know for sure if something went different and I didnt realize and thats why.
Haha close, that was my 2nd last grow! Pheno 3 was this girl, but she just wasn't anything special. Around week 4-5 her terps completely changed and now shes the winner. This is a picture after I took most of the fan leaves off before chop. This pheno also had the most large solid nuggets, very very few small buds on this plant.
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These are the 4 winners that I am re-running, so this is what the 4 I have will look like in flower. This picture was taken just before I hung them to dry, and I removed most the fan leaves.
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They look beatiful! Damn I didnt know I was gone for that long, I missed the entire flowering period of those girls.
It was a great grow man I was happy it finished with no issues! I stressed tested the fuck out of them, I removed 1/2 of the nodes before flower, only left 3 nodes per plant (6 branches each). I stripped them like a motherfucker in flower as well, and I defoliated every couple of weeks. I also topped them multiple times, and they didn't skip a beat. No hermies or any weird growths, but pheno 3 is so much better than any of the others than there's no point in keeping them 🤣 . I was only a couple of grams away from a 600g harvest, but I also have a huge container full of sugar leaf haha.
 
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For some reason my notifications fell off! I’m back to follow!

Working twords the living soil myself just finalizing preparations / organizing ideas lol
 
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Working twords the living soil myself just finalizing preparations / organizing ideas lol
Hey man! Loved my 3 gallon grow, am very pleased with the results. Was worried about being in smaller pots, but I did nothing different and everything went well. Trying them in larger pots this time around, but I am very happy to have ran a pheno hunt in smaller pots. In future when I do hunts I am going to run them in 3 gallons again.
 
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It was a great grow man I was happy it finished with no issues! I stressed tested the fuck out of them, I removed 1/2 of the nodes before flower, only left 3 nodes per plant (6 branches each). I stripped them like a motherfucker in flower as well, and I defoliated every couple of weeks. I also topped them multiple times, and they didn't skip a beat. No hermies or any weird growths, but pheno 3 is so much better than any of the others than there's no point in keeping them 🤣 . I was only a couple of grams away from a 600g harvest, but I also have a huge container full of sugar leaf haha.
Oh man! Mix some decent buds in there and you have amazing hash! You dont really need to put any bud in there but it really helps get more flavor and potency, suggar leaves usually have their trichomes mature faster thats why hash is usually a more chill experience (unless youre smoking bud hash which is very expensive and honestly not worth it, better to mix some buds with your trimms)
 
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Oh man! Mix some decent buds in there and you have amazing hash! You dont really need to put any bud in there but it really helps get more flavor and potency, suggar leaves usually have their trichomes mature faster thats why hash is usually a more chill experience (unless youre smoking bud hash which is very expensive and honestly not worth it, better to mix some buds with your trimms)
That's the plan 😍 I am gonna save it up and process it once I have enough to make a fair amount of bubble hash. I think at the end of my next run I will have enough to do a big load. I have made hash many times before, and I don't like to make all that effort for just a bit of trim, so chances are I will probably throw whatever small buds are left in with my trim from my next harvest. But that wont be for a while now.

I really love hash, I use it to roll little logs then put them in the middle of my joints. Sadly it is almost impossible to get hash where I live, so I will be glad to buy some new equipment to make my own. When its time I am probably going to buy one of those bud-washing-machines that a lot of the people here use to make bubble hash, it looks great and I am SO lazy 🤣 so it would fit me well.
 
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Oooh man being from Spain those little logs from charas really speak to me! I love charas but I even love more a good blonde hash, charas are great and I will smoke them every day but theyre not as pure as blonde hash. You got a lot of skin and sweat mixed with those charas 🤣 the true way though!
 
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Hey man! Loved my 3 gallon grow, am very pleased with the results. Was worried about being in smaller pots, but I did nothing different and everything went well. Trying them in larger pots this time around, but I am very happy to have ran a pheno hunt in smaller pots. In future when I do hunts I am going to run them in 3 gallons again.
Yeah man I ran in the 1 gals and had great results all around, my usual 12s did great, now I’m looking at the 30 gal living soil pots and a 3x3 bed all with coots mix
 
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Oooh man being from Spain those little logs from charas really speak to me! I love charas but I even love more a good blonde hash, charas are great and I will smoke them every day but theyre not as pure as blonde hash. You got a lot of skin and sweat mixed with those charas 🤣 the true way though!
What I do love about fresh hash you rub off the plant is it is gooey and sticky but still smokes and is full of flavour, kind of like your scissors after trimming 😍 that stuff is like magic my man, I even have a titanium scraping tool to get it off my scissors and fingers on harvest day lol its just a good quality rosin tool, but it works great.
Yeah man I ran in the 1 gals and had great results all around, my usual 12s did great, now I’m looking at the 30 gal living soil pots and a 3x3 bed all with coots mix
Sounds like a good plan! I prefer larger pots because it means I have to water less lol but I was surprised by how well everything went in 3gals, I only had to water every 4th day which is perfect! My final boss will be a garden bed too, but I want to understand how everything works before I go that far. I have started saving my soil though, just broke it all up and put it in a large tub.

After reading a bunch of the product descriptions and the soil descriptions it looks like my soil is meant to be re-used, but I don't want to just jump right into it when I don't fully understand organics yet. But I also don't want to be wasteful so I am saving it all and just using new soil until I am confident in reamending and re-running it. I see a lot of people re-running their soil over and over so it just didn't feel right throwing it away!
 
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What I do love about fresh hash you rub off the plant is it is gooey and sticky but still smokes and is full of flavour, kind of like your scissors after trimming 😍 that stuff is like magic my man, I even have a titanium scraping tool to get it off my scissors and fingers on harvest day lol its just a good quality rosin tool, but it works great.

Sounds like a good plan! I prefer larger pots because it means I have to water less lol but I was surprised by how well everything went in 3gals, I only had to water every 4th day which is perfect! My final boss will be a garden bed too, but I want to understand how everything works before I go that far. I have started saving my soil though, just broke it all up and put it in a large tub.

After reading a bunch of the product descriptions and the soil descriptions it looks like my soil is meant to be re-used, but I don't want to just jump right into it when I don't fully understand organics yet. But I also don't want to be wasteful so I am saving it all and just using new soil until I am confident in reamending and re-running it. I see a lot of people re-running their soil over and over so it just didn't feel right throwing it away!
What soil are you running exactly? And if you’re running organically then absolutely any soil you’re using can be re-ran

Basically all organic soil is living soil, until you put something in that’s not organic, it gets better with each run if maintained nutritionally, so I always thought they said living soil is best over 10 gallon pots because of the slow release. But when you really research the reason is completely different, it’s ment to not drain all the resources from the soil ever at any point. The soil is always ready to go for veg or for flower.

So the cover crop is a nitrogen fixer or organic compost builder, these are the “greens” in composting. Some are not fixers and some take and are only ment for organic material building, other like white clover are nitrogen fixers and supply nitrogen Into the soil instead of pulling. Problem is it’s very expensive cover crop I can get a 10# bag locally of 100% white clover seed for about $60, mind you it’s ment for a full field so if I store it right I should have it for years if I decide to grab it (I have a ton of uses for it between the 4 tents and the 130 gallon no tills out in the garden. Plus all 200 garden holes for the spring. Plan is to re amend each hole organic (same amendments I use indoors on my canna, if I won’t put it in my canna pots it won’t go in my garden either and visa versa)

The straw or mulch you use is considered the “browns” etc in composting, combine these 2 together greens dying (or being chopped down) and laying on the mulch, these begin to compost naturally to begin adding organic material to the soil, the earthworms / red wigglers will eat this top layer and bring it to the bottom naturally, where the beneficial bacteria / microbes will break it down for use

I plan to buy a 250 bag of red wigglers, if you plan to add worms to your pots or beds don’t add to many, a handful for the 3x3 or 5-10 for a 15 gallon pot, they are efficient little fuckers and your soil will be all EWC before you know it, from what I’ve read on their reproduction they should double in population at minimum every 60 days

I’m also looking into predator mites as well

So far the most I’ve done is rerun soil from 4 12 gallon pots running all organic, I feel the 3x3 for the 4x4 is the next logical step then 2x 30 gals will run in the 4x8 I thought it would not be enough until I realized how big 30 gals are, 24” across, I wanna try out the bed and the pots at the same time

If you skip build a soils website and go right to grassroots website everything is cheaper (but if ordering multiple items BAS with the free shipping ends up cheaper still even with the higher prices) cool part is BAS as well as Grassroots are both small family owned companies so I’ll order from BAS so the can both make a buck.

Anyways on grassroots website the now have a “hobby” bed that’s 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5, and you can even still get it with the trellis fittings. I think they were $89 but that’s a fairly large amount of soil, damn near 30 gallons itself plus you’d get the benefit of beginning to play with a Living soil bed and learning. So feed the soil on a small scale
 
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Looking at what I need to get this all started it’s probably a $650 venture all together to get the beds pots and the soil, then I’m looking at a few cool devices to try out without going too tier canna tech and paying through the roof

These moisture meters look cool, figured I can position 2 in the 3x3 one with the probes 1/3 of the way down and the other with the probes 2/3 of the way down then one in each 30 gal I guess around 30-40% moisture is idea so that’ll be something to learn to control, I already have a 3.5 gallon Xtreme Chaplin sprayer, need a few new tips but that’s the ideal watering g method so you can slowly introduce moisture without enough volume to run to the bottom
 
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Been debating on placing the order between all the gear plus 3x 60 lb bags of pumice and the other shit and I have a downhill driveway that’s currently 100% ice and I shoveled cus I’m a lazy ass stoner that only had 1 day off work 🤣

Imma have to tip that fucker if he makes it to my porch without damaging anything… or himself 🤣

Probably gunna order in a few days just wanna make sure I’m ordering exactly what I want and not miss anything that would cost me shipping costs later
 
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What soil are you running exactly? And if you’re running organically then absolutely any soil you’re using can be re-ran
Yep it is 100% organic living soil, its an Australian brand called High Powered Organics, and they sell powdered organics that you put into the water, as well as top dress and mineral composite. The owner said the same thing, that it can be re-run as long as you keep feeding the soil with the powdered products and top dress when necessary etc.
Looking at what I need to get this all started it’s probably a $650 venture all together to get the beds pots and the soil, then I’m looking at a few cool devices to try out without going too tier canna tech and paying through the roof
I remember seeing similar numbers when I was looking into it before I started growing again. I was SO close to buying a garden bed but I decided to stick to pots until I knew what I was doing 🤣 . I remember seeing a few really expensive moisture meters that the pros use on YouTube, those are some expensive tools but with SO much soil that's quite a large investment so you need to look after it and be able to know when its too wet or too dry.
Been debating on placing the order between all the gear plus 3x 60 lb bags of pumice and the other shit and I have a downhill driveway that’s currently 100% ice and I shoveled cus I’m a lazy ass stoner that only had 1 day off work 🤣

Imma have to tip that fucker if he makes it to my porch without damaging anything… or himself 🤣

Probably gunna order in a few days just wanna make sure I’m ordering exactly what I want and not miss anything that would cost me shipping costs later
I hope to God you have a door camera so you can capture his adventure to your door HAHA! But yes, I do that too. I also make sure and double check everything before I order, and I also go through other sections of the store before I order so I can see everything and not decide, at a later date, that I actually wanted something else too 🤣🤣 .
 
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Yep it is 100% organic living soil, its an Australian brand called High Powered Organics, and they sell powdered organics that you put into the water, as well as top dress and mineral composite. The owner said the same thing, that it can be re-run as long as you keep feeding the soil with the powdered products and top dress when necessary etc.

I remember seeing similar numbers when I was looking into it before I started growing again. I was SO close to buying a garden bed but I decided to stick to pots until I knew what I was doing 🤣 . I remember seeing a few really expensive moisture meters that the pros use on YouTube, those are some expensive tools but with SO much soil that's quite a large investment so you need to look after it and be able to know when its too wet or too dry.

I hope to God you have a door camera so you can capture his adventure to your door HAHA! But yes, I do that too. I also make sure and double check everything before I order, and I also go through other sections of the store before I order so I can see everything and not decide, at a later date, that I actually wanted something else too 🤣🤣 .
So you can do the packets like he said you you can start home building, the ratio is pretty common it’s just if you can find the products

Coots blend is similar you buy a nutrient kit and a mineral kit and that’ll make 9 cubic feet of soil, the kit I’m gunna buy is made to make 18 cubic feet of soil total after mixing in the EWC and aeration so it should be enough to fill the bed, I know I wanna keep it about 6” low so it can slowly build organic material in the bes over the years I may have to hand build some spare soil for the 30’s

The bed is 3x3x1.5 so 12 Sq.ft. Which equals 13.5 cu. ft. Of soil or 100 gallons

The mix should make 120 gallons roughly

3.8 cu ft of peat average approx 7 cu ft fluffed
1 coots mix for a 1 bale mix
3 bags of pumice (3 cu ft)
3 bags of rice hulls (3 cu ft)
3 bags of mushroom compost (3 cu ft)
3 bags of EWC (3 cu ft)

Ends up being roughly 19 cu ft so f I need to I’ll add in an extra 1/4 bale of peat to make sure I can fill all 3 containers I wanna start with
 
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3 bags of pumice (3 cu ft)
3 bags of rice hulls (3 cu ft)
I like this a lot especially! I have also heard this is great organic aeration for your soil. I have heard a lot about Coots blend, and this is the type of thing I plan to get into. I like your plan! That's a hell of a lot of soil hahaha you've got QUITE the job on your hands! I can see why shipping and ordering is a little nerve wracking 🤣 a lot of stuff you could forget. When I start building soil I know who I will talk to!
 
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I like this a lot especially! I have also heard this is great organic aeration for your soil. I have heard a lot about Coots blend, and this is the type of thing I plan to get into. I like your plan! That's a hell of a lot of soil hahaha you've got QUITE the job on your hands! I can see why shipping and ordering is a little nerve wracking 🤣 a lot of stuff you could forget. When I start building soil I know who I will talk to!
Worst part is the peat etc is all local same with Hard to source worm castings I can only get find like 1/3 cu ft bags so i may have to get his too lol but his are super pricey 70 a bag and for Colorado worm company it’s $90 a cubic foot that’s a bit much haha
 
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Not long now guys and girls, flowering is right around the corner. I made a few more net adjustments, girls are all looking up again. I have decided that the next time I water them I am also going to flip to 12/12, which should be in a few days. That water is going to be their first initial Flower fertilizer feed, as per the chart. Today I am going to clean my clone machine with hydrogen peroxide in prep for clones. My LED is on 20%, which is 150w.
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Right now there are about 2-4 branches sitting 5" above every other branch because they were right on the edge, but I will fix this soon. I will probably have to stake them sideways or something, Ill figure something out haha.
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Not long now guys and girls, flowering is right around the corner. I made a few more net adjustments, girls are all looking up again. I have decided that the next time I water them I am also going to flip to 12/12, which should be in a few days. That water is going to be their first initial Flower fertilizer feed, as per the chart. Today I am going to clean my clone machine with hydrogen peroxide in prep for clones. My LED is on 20%, which is 150w.
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Right now there are about 2-4 branches sitting 5" above every other branch because they were right on the edge, but I will fix this soon. I will probably have to stake them sideways or something, Ill figure something out haha.
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I usually let those high riders run they’ll be bigger colas and everything under will be even and consistent size buds usually have 5-10 high runners and those are my photo colas on a run lol
 
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I usually let those high riders run they’ll be bigger colas and everything under will be even and consistent size buds usually have 5-10 high runners and those are my photo colas on a run lol
There is some good news, too! Where they are running upwards is right under my carbon filter, which is a little 6" space at the front of my tent that my LED isn't directly above, so they aren't in DIRECT light, they are just slightly off to the side. Hell with it, Ill let them run then 😍 having a few good photo colas will be good! I kept going in and out, and in and out 🤣 back and forth saying "how the fuck am I gonna level these 4 or so branches out.." haha thanks for the advice man I like this solution you gave! I will let them run.
 

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